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04-04-2013, 05:27 PM
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Brassard plays a game similar to Christiansen or Gomez.

I dont see him as primary scoring but in the right setting he could thrive. With the coaching and the way the rest of the team has been playing, I am far from sure this is the right setting.

Still, expecting him to fill the 3C and help on the PP shouldn't be too much to ask. We needed the depth.
i hope not.

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seems to have heart.. good to see



talk about homer announcers. sticking up for Cooke really

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Brassard basically separated his arm from his shoulder his rookie season (coincidentally the only year the Jackets made the playoffs) after getting into it with James Neal after a dirty hit by Neal. He has a ton of heart and will stick up for his teammates.

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Even in his interview on the Rangers website today, you can tell the kid has a good head on his shoulders.

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seems to have heart.. good to see



talk about homer announcers. sticking up for Cooke really
the most horrendously biased announcers in sports...them, or the bawstun guys.

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talk about homer announcers. sticking up for Cooke really
Unbelievable, makes me sick to my stomach. They actually defend him and blame Tyutin. Cooke is so ****** dirty

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04-04-2013, 10:42 PM
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talk about homer announcers. sticking up for Cooke really


At least Brass God tried to stick up for Tyutin and went after POS Cooke. Pens announcers are the worst. Bar none.

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04-04-2013, 11:30 PM
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I'm pretty much convinced that the only reason Bluenote and Sting dislike the guy is because I like him and made the BRASS GOD picture. Otherwise, they'd be fans.

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04-05-2013, 12:03 AM
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Derick Brassard is already 24 years old. Is he held back by his team or his talent level? Compare his results to those from T.J. Oshie and you'll see how far behind this former lottery pick is from his peers. When will Ryan Johansen catch him?
http://www.coppernblue.com/2012/4/15...conference-nhl



Seems like a pretty mediocre player at this point in his career. Skill is nice, but you need to hold onto the puck in the offensive zone to become a significant contributor in the league. He is probably comparable to Jussi Jokinen.

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Seems like a pretty mediocre player at this point in his career. Skill is nice, but you need to hold onto the puck in the offensive zone to become a significant contributor in the league. He is probably comparable to Jussi Jokinen.
or Jordan Eberle.

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04-05-2013, 12:53 AM
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I think comparing him to Tlusty from the Canes is a better comparison. Good producers but not great players.

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I'm pretty much convinced that the only reason Bluenote and Sting dislike the guy is because I like him and made the BRASS GOD picture. Otherwise, they'd be fans.
Jon, I'm genuinely interested in your response to what I said in post #50. If you had asked me how I felt about Brassard a month ago, when I would never have guessed that this deal would go down (I really didn't think the Rangers would deal Gaborik before the off-season; this deal took me totally by surprise), I'd have told you the same things I've said over the last two days. We've had some discussion regarding reports linking the Rangers with Brassard, and I probably said those things then.

Why would I change my opinion of him just because he's a Ranger now? I call it as I see it. I don't think being a homer makes one a better fan, and if I had suddenly altered my opinion on DB, that wouldn't be a genuine feeling.

It's not just that I'm not high on Brassard. Acquiring him, and these deals in general, feels like familiar territory. How many times is this team going to undergo these significant changes? How many years is it going to take before this process is over?This is season 8 of post-lockout Sather. I don't think I'm being unreasonable when I say this year is not "the year." Is it going to take 9 years? Is it going to take 10 years? 12? 15? How long of a period of failure is it going to take before the team decides that this method of teambuilding isn't conducive to sustained legitimate success?

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04-05-2013, 03:44 AM
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I'd really like to see how he looks on the point for the power play

guys got an absolute laser of a slapshot/onetimer. he used to play the point in cb once in awhile, but usually just ripped shots from the circles.

with gaborik gone now he probably has the best wrister (and slapshot) on the team, hopefully its utilized well.

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04-05-2013, 05:15 AM
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Christensen only reached 30 points once when playing with Crosby, no reason to compare that bum to Brassard who has 1 30p and 2 40 point seasons already

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I've never had a player shoot up into my favorites so quickly. There's something I love about him.

I think in large part it's that he adds a new dimension of finesse whereas most of our guys are cerebral or power players. He makes those stupid spinning no look passes that Richards does but when Brassard does them they work.

Not gonna work every time, of course. Skill is inconsistent by nature. But if he can be serviceable most nights and make a big play every now and then I think he's gonna add alot and be a popular player. He's the kinda guy who can make a play on those nights where the forecheck just isn't going right.

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I fail to see why he can not be this teams Rich Peverly.

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Brassard has been somewhat of an enigma in Columbus, that's for sure. What's also certain is that Columbus, as an organization, seems to thrive on making enigmas out of high draft picks: Zherdev, Filatov, Brassard, Leclair, Picard, etc... Brassard was a 6th overall pick and has tons of pressure/expectations (like all high CBJ draft picks do because of that franchise's lack of success) since he was added to the team.

Brassard has talent and I'm not going liken his hockey IQ with that of Gomez, who's about as sharp as a grapefruit out there, but I think there's a chance he can flourish here. He's not going to be viewed the same way. The pressure here is on Richards, Nash, Lundqvist and even Callahan. Not so much on Brassard. And, I've seen stranger things than guys who really put it together after age 24 (have a look at Zdeno Chara, Dupuis, Adam Graves, etc..)

Gaborik was done here and what we got back will help this team more than Gaborik could and this point.

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I'm pretty much convinced that the only reason Bluenote and Sting dislike the guy is because I like him and made the BRASS GOD picture. Otherwise, they'd be fans.
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Jon, I'm genuinely interested in your response to what I said in post #50. If you had asked me how I felt about Brassard a month ago, when I would never have guessed that this deal would go down (I really didn't think the Rangers would deal Gaborik before the off-season; this deal took me totally by surprise), I'd have told you the same things I've said over the last two days. We've had some discussion regarding reports linking the Rangers with Brassard, and I probably said those things then.

Why would I change my opinion of him just because he's a Ranger now? I call it as I see it. I don't think being a homer makes one a better fan, and if I had suddenly altered my opinion on DB, that wouldn't be a genuine feeling.

It's not just that I'm not high on Brassard. Acquiring him, and these deals in general, feels like familiar territory. How many times is this team going to undergo these significant changes? How many years is it going to take before this process is over?This is season 8 of post-lockout Sather. I don't think I'm being unreasonable when I say this year is not "the year." Is it going to take 9 years? Is it going to take 10 years? 12? 15? How long of a period of failure is it going to take before the team decides that this method of teambuilding isn't conducive to sustained legitimate success?
Well said.

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I fail to see why he can not be this teams Rich Peverly.
Center depth is never, ever a bad thing. Even if Richards isn't playing well, having Stepan, Richards, Brassard, Boyle down the middle in a very comfortable situation. A 40 point 3rd line center can be a big help, especially if we're playing him with wingers who have offensive ability such as Hagelin, Kreider, or Zuccarello.

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Guys, this is the Derick Brassard thread.

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@ Brassard - yeah, I'll give it a rest. Won't change anyone's mind that I'm arguing with anyway.

Brassard, which I also disagree with Sting on (LOL), will be a nice 2nd/3rd C and a great help on the PP (which I said before last game, as well).

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I was looking for the Columbus Dispatch article about Hitch and Brass (I haven't found it yet - and I might not). However, I did come across this:

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MAY 7, 2012
Report Card: Brassard
The latest in our post-season player report cards:

Derick Brassard

Age: 24

Position: Center

Contract status: Signed through 2013-14

Year in review: Nobody benefitted more from the firing of former Blue Jackets coach Scott Arniel than Brassard. He was a castoff when Todd Richards took over in early January. … It’s easy to blame Arniel – and before him Ken Hitchcock – for the player’s struggles, but Brassard has become a frustrating player. Nobody on the Blue Jackets possesses a higher skill set with the puck, but he has yet to elevate his game consistently. … Has Brassard ever taken over a game? That’s not a question that should be asked of a No. 6 overall pick. … A popular theory around the league is that Brassard only thrives when the games don’t carry much importance. … When Brassard wants the puck – as he did in the final month of the season – he can put on a show. But his confidence is quick to wane if the situation isn’t right, and the situation under Arniel was a disaster. … Brassard put on significant weight last summer at the request of the Blue Jackets, who have always wanted him to get bigger. Instead it cost him his acceleration and change of direction. Once he shed the weight, he got back to his shifty self. … One of the challenges of playing Brassard at center is his struggles in the faceoff circle. Here’s his faceoff winning percentage, from this season to his rookie season of 2008-09: 45.1, 46.6, 41.75, 48.5. That’s not good enough. … In the first half under Arniel, Brassard had 5-7-12 and a minus 16 rating. He was scratched eight times. … In the final 41 under Richards, he had 9-20-29 and a minus-4. … If the Blue Jackets hadn’t gutted their roster of centers at the trade deadline, they’d be more apt to trade Brassard. Heck, they still might. A common thought is that, after 3 years in the NHL, Brassard’s true colors have shown. … Chicago is looking for a second-line center. Can you imagine Brassard with those wingers, in that environment? Scary. … The Blue Jackets are hoping for Brassard to bloom into Stephen Weiss. A healthy version of Pierre-Marc Bouchard might be a safer bet.


Grade: C-

Career trajectory: A someday star
From here: http://bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com/...r=2012&month=5

This is the CBJ beat writers blog. In this case, this was originally posted last May.

I'll try to track down the ones for Dorsett and Moore too.

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I think that illustrates the fact that he was mishandled in Columbus. He isn't a big guy why exactly did they want to put weight on him? Sounds like they wanted to change his style of play. Also scratching him 8 times in 41 games is a bit excessive also.

I think Columbus rushed him and messed with his development, he might get back on track here, he might stay around 40ish points. Either one is good, I'd rather see him flourish, but if he's looked at as a fix to our 3c issue for the foreseeable future then 40pts is pretty significant.

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I think that illustrates the fact that he was mishandled in Columbus. He isn't a big guy why exactly did they want to put weight on him? Sounds like they wanted to change his style of play. Also scratching him 8 times in 41 games is a bit excessive also.

I think Columbus rushed him and messed with his development.
Brass wasn't rushed, but the shoulder injury really hampered his development. He returned to Drummondville following being drafted, then spend a season in the AHL putting up good numbers.

The next season he started out incredibly strong (25 points in 31 games) but his season was cut short after the fight with James Neal. He was in the running for the Calder and was rookie of the month for two straight months. After that, he was less aggressive.

He's never going to be the type of player that a defense-first, hard checking coach like Hitch was going to like. His trips to the dog-house have been well-deserved, and he has never responded very well to being scratched.

Brass was also very notable for being Mike Commodore's little buddy during Commy's time in Columbus.

The coaching carousel in Columbus hasn't helped, but Brass seems to play well for certain coaches and have difficulties with others. During the lockout, he and Dorse went to play for Salzburg EC, and then left abruptly. Salzburg's coach is Pierre Pag, so no big surprise. Brass played the best for Claude Nol and Guy Boucher in the Q, so he works best with player-friendly coaches. Not sure how that will work in NY, but he needs mature. This is a terrific opportunity for him.

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or Jordan Eberle.
Not even close. Eberle is an overrated player, but is still a much better producer than Brassard. I say he is a worse version of Sam Gagner.

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