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04-05-2013, 09:32 AM
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With Smithson arriving soon Ryan will either be back on the wing or in the box so its not that big of an issue.

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04-05-2013, 09:36 AM
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Smyth is painful to watch and is hurting the team. He needs to be bought out if he doesn't retire. He's had a great career, but he just can't keep up anymore.

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04-05-2013, 09:37 AM
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With Smithson arriving soon Ryan will either be back on the wing or in the box so its not that big of an issue.
Who comes out though? Petrell has been playing like he wants to be here for the next 3 years and Jones at least has some speed to burn. Don't think Oilers management has the guts to waive Smyth.

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04-05-2013, 09:42 AM
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Who comes out though? Petrell has been playing like he wants to be here for the next 3 years and Jones at least has some speed to burn. Don't think Oilers management has the guts to waive Smyth.
Smyth should never play in back-to-back games, and he should really be in the pressbox for every 2nd game (or more). Too old, too slow. The extra rest might do him a world of good, it did last time.

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04-05-2013, 09:42 AM
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Keep Smid and Yakupov. All the rest should be bought out. Useless d-bags

but seriously, it is strange what some people are writing...quite drastic i would say.

There are some players that I would trade from the team, or would rather they not be there. Belanger is #1. if not for his faceoffs, he is one of the most useless veterans still getting ice time in the whole league. Others:
Whitney
Peckham
Smyth - myonly gripe with him is how much they pay him. he is good in the room but that isn't worth that much.
Horcoff...well i would keep him if his salary was cut in half.

I don't know why people would want to get rid of:
Hall - seriously? a top ten scorer in the league and you want to forget about him? If he has topped out already, we still have a top ten scorer.
Eberle - Lady Byng finalist and he is not worth keeping?hmmm
Petrell - he was not acquired to score, nor to fight, but he gives a very solid 4th line, reasonable 3rd line option to the coach. I see nothing wrong with his game when compared to what is expected of him

these are strange choices.

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04-05-2013, 10:04 AM
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There's no way he should have been playing in back-to-back games. And if I ever see him come down the left side and try that wimpy slap shot of his, I swear I'm going to lose it. It is the most ineffective play ever!

I'd be embarrased looking at myself on tape after a game like that.

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04-05-2013, 10:24 AM
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It is both weird & frustrating that they believe Smyth is the most convertible wing<>centre we have.

Im betting the logic goes something like: Because Smitty is already struggling to be a relevant winger...the team won't miss him anywhere.

Personally...Id be double shifting Hall and mixing in a couple other guys, like Paajarvi, for those 4 line centre shifts.

Bottom line is...Smithson can't get here soon enough.

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04-05-2013, 10:57 AM
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Not to worry. Jerrod Smithson is on the way and I think will likely spell Smyth off some. Can hardly wait to see a big hitting body like that combining with Petrell and Brown for a real physical unit.

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04-05-2013, 10:59 AM
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There's no way he should have been playing in back-to-back games. And if I ever see him come down the left side and try that wimpy slap shot of his, I swear I'm going to lose it. It is the most ineffective play ever!

I'd be embarrased looking at myself on tape after a game like that.
He scored with that type of shot on Andy Moog in the 1997 playoffs against Dallas and it turned out to be the game winner in OT, so he figures it's a real weapon.

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04-05-2013, 11:21 AM
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Smyth is painful to watch and is hurting the team. He needs to be bought out if he doesn't retire. He's had a great career, but he just can't keep up anymore.
Don't expect either. Maybe they can convince him to be a player/coach in OKC. Sorta like Bucky did.

I doubt it. Smyth still thinks he is a top six guy.

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04-05-2013, 11:26 AM
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Smyth shouldnt even be on the team anymore. he's like an AHL vet out there now who gets a call up. has some wisdom of the game and makes an OK play here and there but can't keep up. it's too bad because he still deserves a lot of respect for his history with the team and loyalty to the area - but has to realize its time to hang it up.

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04-05-2013, 11:34 AM
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Don't expect either. Maybe they can convince him to be a player/coach in OKC. Sorta like Bucky did.

I doubt it. Smyth still thinks he is a top six guy.
One would think Smyth would want to stay in Edmonton. Shouldnt be hard for our managment to find him a spot with Oilers somewhere... Maybe assistant coach the Oil Kings.

I dont like this thread.. The guy deserves much better ..

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Smyth is complete garbage this year. He gave it his all, and I respect that, but the tank is empty. He needs to realize this and move on.

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04-05-2013, 11:38 AM
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If he doesn't retire at the end of the year I hope they try sending him down to the Barons during training camp next year. That would probably force him to retire.

Good teams don't keep around bad players for sentimental reasons.

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04-05-2013, 11:46 AM
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If he doesn't retire at the end of the year I hope they try sending him down to the Barons during training camp next year. That would probably force him to retire.

Good teams don't keep around bad players for sentimental reasons.
yes.. lets hold onto bashing him until next year. I am sure Smyth will retire after this season.. The guy can look around the locker room and realize that he'll be in tough to make the club next year.
If he doesnt.. the pitchforks can come out... til then.. we as fans should try to stay classy and let him round out his career.

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04-05-2013, 11:52 AM
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The Oilers will keep him on the roster. No way they will buy him out or make him sit.

This organization has made enough enemies with former players over the years. They don't need another one.

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04-05-2013, 11:53 AM
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yes.. lets hold onto bashing him until next year. I am sure Smyth will retire after this season.. The guy can look around the locker room and realize that he'll be in tough to make the club next year.
If he doesnt.. the pitchforks can come out... til then.. we as fans should try to stay classy and let him round out his career.
Min Dharwal(sp) from CBC kinda suggested to me on Twitter that this is Smyth's "last Hurah", so I would LIKE to think he sees the writing on the, but I'm not sure.

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04-05-2013, 12:04 PM
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And as expected, the scapegoating continues.

Smyth was -1 last night, yet apparently he's the only one to blame, for not scoring any goals against the Canucks, and for the 4-0 loss. Makes sense.

Apparently benching Smyth last night in favour of Smithson, or Anton Lander would have allowed the Oilers to win.

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Bottom line for me is, if the guy was a decent skater, he could probably stick around and be a reasonable 4th liner.

Problem is, he is way too slow. Couple that with some lazy habits, lack of any real physical presence and no offensive upside any more and you've got a player that brings very little to the team.

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And as expected, the scapegoating continues.

Smyth was -1 last night, yet apparently he's the only one to blame, for not scoring any goals against the Canucks, and for the 4-0 loss. Makes sense.

Apparently benching Smyth last night in favour of Smithson, or Anton Lander would have allowed the Oilers to win.
He's not the sole problem, but he's also No kind of solution to anything. He can't skate, isn't phsical and can't bring much to the table.

Will Smithson be a major upgrade? No, but he's an upgrade on Smyth in that respective role and he can bring something to the table that Smyth can't consistantly.

The Problem with Ryan Smyth is he's being counted on for anything and he's Done. I sincerely hope he has the sense to retire at the end of the season, because another year of this level play, or likely worse, would be very embarrassing.

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04-05-2013, 12:09 PM
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yes.. lets hold onto bashing him until next year. I am sure Smyth will retire after this season.. The guy can look around the locker room and realize that he'll be in tough to make the club next year.
If he doesnt.. the pitchforks can come out... til then.. we as fans should try to stay classy and let him round out his career.
I'm fine with people criticizing Smyth this year. After publicly demanding a trade here so that we were pretty much forced to acquire him, playing like crap for half of last season and then playing hardball with the Oilers in the offseason instead of being grateful that we even brought him back, he deserves to be criticized.

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The Oilers will keep him on the roster. No way they will buy him out or make him sit.

This organization has made enough enemies with former players over the years. They don't need another one.
If Smyth can't realize that he is hurting the team and gets upset with the Oilers for sitting him, that's his problem.

We shouldn't be held hostage by bad players because we are afraid of hurting their feelings.

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04-05-2013, 12:42 PM
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He needs to pull a Dougie Weight and retire and take a spot behind the bench.

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If Smyth doesn't retire this offseason, I would fully support the Oilers using one of their compliance buyouts on him - I still think Belanger and Eager can return some kind of asset, even if it's just future considerations.

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And as expected, the scapegoating continues.

Smyth was -1 last night, yet apparently he's the only one to blame, for not scoring any goals against the Canucks, and for the 4-0 loss. Makes sense.

Apparently benching Smyth last night in favour of Smithson, or Anton Lander would have allowed the Oilers to win.
there is LITERALLY nobody in this thread saying anything like this (except you of course)

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If Smyth doesn't retire this offseason, I would fully support the Oilers using one of their compliance buyouts on him - I still think Belanger and Eager can return some kind of asset, even if it's just future considerations.
eager and belanger both have reasonable contracts, so i could see some teams willing to give up a 7th rounder on one of them, or picking them up on waivers

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