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Who does CBC pick Second for the Playoffs?

View Poll Results: Which team gets CBC's 2nd choice for the playoffs
Crosby 6 6.90%
Montreal 27 31.03%
Ottawa 1 1.15%
Vancouver 53 60.92%
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04-05-2013, 05:32 PM
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It's right here, for the record:

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...9&postcount=79

So there's your proof.

Although technically you're looking at average per game viewership. Obviously more people watched the Montreal series because there were two more games.

I won't pretend it didn't have anything to do with Crosby, but it's a fact nonetheless.

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i dont need to post the number if i dont feel like it. I'm right. I did it a month ago when habs fans had this exact same argument with me. I have better things to do than this right now.

This isnt an insult to the habs in any way. The sens are a small-market team, i recognize that. The only teams with comparable fanbases in canada are the alberta teams and the jets, and i recognize that too. The simple fact is that RDS taking ~1/3 of all MTL viewership makes them less valuable to an english TV network than ottawa. The numbers back this up. If you disagree with me, show me your evidence, otherwise **** off.
Take a chill pill. The point is moot as Vancouver would get the second pick unless Ottawa Montreal square off. I believe an all Canadian match up goes before Vancouver.

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i dont need to post the number if i dont feel like it. I'm right. I did it a month ago when habs fans had this exact same argument with me. I have better things to do than this right now.

This isnt an insult to the habs in any way. The sens are a small-market team, i recognize that. The only teams with comparable fanbases in canada are the alberta teams and the jets, and i recognize that too. The simple fact is that RDS taking ~1/3 of all MTL viewership makes them less valuable to a TV network than ottawa. The numbers back this up. If you disagree with me, show me your evidence, otherwise **** off.
I think Montreal still has alot of fans out west. As I said besides Toronto, Montreal has the largest amount of fans here and it isn't even close who is 3(although it's not even close between 1 and 2). Hate to admit it while I stay away from the Leafs in the Regular season, I generally will watch them in playoffs to see them lose. lol

All that being said matchup could make a difference. While Montreal might have the 2nd highest amount of hardcore fans here, I don't think anybody who doesn't like them will go all out watching and be more likely to want to watch the Penguins

Going by potential matchups

Montreal-Rangers vs Boston-Ottawa is a tossup(lots of Bruins fans)
Montreal-Rangers though trumps Ottawa-Washington
Now if it's Montreal-Islanders/Devils not sure that is an ideal matchup compared to the 2 I gave above

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It's right here, for the record:

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...9&postcount=79

So there's your proof.

That is not proof, what you are telling me is a station that traditionally gets linked with Hockey in Canada did slightly better then a Cable station

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It's right here, for the record:

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...9&postcount=79

So there's your proof.

Although technically you're looking at average per game viewership. Obviously more people watched the Montreal series because there were two more games.
2010 nhl playoffs - round 1

Pittsburgh defeats ottawa 4-2.
Montreal defeats washington 4-3.

cmon nyquil. I know you're old, but seriously.

regardless, do you think CBC execs are really sitting there predicting whether a Habs or Sens series will last more games? Viewership/game is what they look at, and they then assume the average playoff series lasts 6 games.

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cmon nyquil. I know you're old, but seriously.
Hey, I help you out and you stab me in the back.

Et tu Brute?

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That is not proof, what you are telling me is a station that traditionally gets linked with Hockey in Canada did slightly better then a Cable station
The argument made was that the Ottawa series in that year drew more viewers than the Montreal series in that year on national English networks.

It did.

Everything else is conjecture.

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Hey, I help you out and you stab me in the back.

Et tu Brute?
do you think Mrs. Nyquil forgot that the sens-pens series lasted 6 games?

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do you think Mrs. Nyquil forgot that the sens-pens series lasted 6 games?
I don't think she had 2 beers after work.

What's funny is that I was at Game 6.

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The argument made was that the Ottawa series in that year drew more viewers than the Montreal series in that year on national English networks.

It is absolutely proof.
Yeah but what if they picked Montreal instead. As I said the fact it was on CBC is worth some extra viewers(how much is debatable)

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Yeah but what if they picked Montreal instead and Montreal got those sweet Saturday Night Slots(a Canadian tradition for hockey). As I said the fact it was on CBC is worth some extra viewers(how much is debatable)
Sure, but that's not proof either.

That's conjecture.

I don't see why we're arguing so vociferously over a minor point.

The match-ups were the major factor in Ottawa's favour anyway.

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I think Montreal still has alot of fans out west. As I said besides Toronto, Montreal has the largest amount of fans here and it isn't even close who is 3(although it's not even close between 1 and 2). Hate to admit it while I stay away from the Leafs in the Regular season, I generally will watch them in playoffs to see them lose. lol

All that being said matchup could make a difference. While Montreal might have the 2nd highest amount of hardcore fans here, I don't think anybody who doesn't like them will go all out watching and be more likely to want to watch the Penguins

Going by potential matchups

Montreal-Rangers vs Boston-Ottawa is a tossup(lots of Bruins fans)
Montreal-Rangers though trumps Ottawa-Washington
Now if it's Montreal-Islanders/Devils not sure that is an ideal matchup compared to the 2 I gave above




That is not proof, what you are telling me is a station that traditionally gets linked with Hockey in Canada did slightly better then a Cable station
this is all really cool.

maybe when you graduate you can come join us on the BoH board to talk about the stuff that really matters.

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Sure, but that's not proof either.

That's conjecture.

I don't see why we're arguing so vociferously over a minor point.

The match-ups were the major factor in Ottawa's favour anyway.
I guess their is always the third option that CBC should have picked both Montreal/Washington and Ottawa/Pittsburgh and said screw Vancouver. lol

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I guess their is always the third option that CBC should have picked both Montreal/Washington and Ottawa/Pittsburgh and said screw Vancouver. lol
That West team is free ratings that aren't at the expense of another game.

But yeah, probably should have.

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Toronto hasn't made the playoffs yet.

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Toronto hasn't made the playoffs yet.
The Hockey Gods are watching, and they approve.

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I honestly feel that if MTL/OTT meet, they should be #1, unless the Leafs play the Jets, and even that is uncertain.

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They'll pick Vancouver but I hope they pick Montreal. I would love to see the TSN crew for the Nucks series.

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I honestly feel that if MTL/OTT meet, they should be #1, unless the Leafs play the Jets, and even that is uncertain.
Toronto could play Florida and that would be the #1 pick over any other matchup(Mon/Pitt, Ott/Pitt, Mon/Ott)

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CBC wants ratings, so they should pick the two biggest fan bases in the NHL: Leafs and Habs.

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CBC wants ratings, so they should pick the two biggest fan bases in the NHL: Leafs and Habs.
I think the thing with the Penguins is they might not have the biggest fanbase but they have a pretty high interest factor(ie they might not be my favorite team but I will watch Crosby). Interest factor for Montreal probably is more based on the teams fans(but not beyond that), all that being said they have a pretty significant fanbase, no matter how much CBC marginalizes them

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I think it'll be Vancouver just based on time zones.
Canucks games usually always start around 7pm PT/10pm ET, so they can show it after the Leafs games.
i think this, too.

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I think the thing with the Penguins is they might not have the biggest fanbase but they have a pretty high interest factor(ie they might not be my favorite team but I will watch Crosby). Interest factor for Montreal probably is more based on the teams fans(but not beyond that), all that being said they have a pretty significant fanbase, no matter how much CBC marginalizes them
no way the pens get picked #2 unless they're playing a canadian team.

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I said us but then I got thinking that there's a good chance we'll play a team like the Wild. That wouldn't be too appealing for CBC.

And there's also a chance for 2 all Canadian match ups in the East.

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I said us but then I got thinking that there's a good chance we'll play a team like the Wild. That wouldn't be too appealing for CBC.

And there's also a chance for 2 all Canadian match ups in the East.
Well Toronto is a shoe in no matter who they play but yeah I have to figure of any of the top 8 in the West, Minnesota is the team the CBC wants to see least who finishes 6th(assuming Vancouver finishes 3rd). I would guess they secretly pulling for Detroit to play Vancouver

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CBC worker: "Sir, the scorecards have been announced."
CBC Broadcaster: "Ahh, who will be playing tonight?"
CBC Worker: "Well sir, Vancouver will face Minnesota in the first round"
CBC Broadcaster: "Ahaha, I love them Canucks. Focus all the attention on the Nucks game after the eastern time zone games are done. God I love me some Canucks. Now what Canadian teams have made it on the eastern side, Jimmy?"
CBC Worker apparently named Jimmy: "Montreal against Leafs, sir."
*CBC Announcer takes off sunglasses only to reveal another pair of sunglasses*
CBC Announcer: "Mother of god Jimmy... PLAY ALL THE HIGHLIGHTS! I want every Journalist you have never heard of there!"
*CBC Announcer runs away in excitement*
CBC Worker: "But sir, what about Ottawa... or Winnipeg?"
CBC Announcer: "DON'T CARE, JIMMY!"

That is generally how CBC feels about Ottawa.

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Well I think their first choice would be an all Canadian matchup. Like Van-Edm, Mon-Tor, Ott-Tor, Mon-Wpg. They would choose any of those first and second. Now assuming that none of the first round matchups are between two Canadian teams then I think they go Toronto-Vancouver. As a Habs fan this is what I would prefer. Couple of years ago TSN got the Habs-Caps series and it was awesome. I prefer TSN's HD and crew over CBC's. Would much rather listen to McKenzie and co cover the series than PJ Stock and Glen Healy.

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