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04-03-2013, 01:49 AM
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I'd give Tinordi a 7/10, otherwise we agree.

Beaulieu's Wisniewski comparison is interesting. I know Beaulieu's got great puck-moving ability, but does he have that booming slapshot that Wiz brought?
He has a pretty good shot, but he's much more mobile, and less physical than Wisniewski. Not the best comparison IMO.

I'm not the best at comparisons, but Beaulieu has the same assets Leddy had at the same age. Very quick skaters, weak physically, good on transition, and lots of offensive potential. Work on progress defensively.

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I saw highlights of him with the Bulldogs and he looks like a rover out there. I see him as a Jake Gardiner style player - always skating, handling the puck. Hopefully his positioning and decision making continues to improve.
I'd say that's pretty bang on.

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It seems I'm alone in my opinion but Beaulieu's 2-game tryout confirmed he is really not ready for prime time. He was overwhelmed in the defensive zone repeatedly, attacking forwards tossed him aside with ease. The kid is only 19 and his offensive and skating skills are obvious but at this point he is a far cry from being an NHL defenceman.

It is true that Beaulieu was less sheltered by Therrien. Unlike Patteryn and Tinordi, Beaulieu was thrown out there against some pretty stiff oppostion. Nonetheless, the other two rookies were far less conspicuous in their debuts, a good thing.

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It seems I'm alone in my opinion but Beaulieu's 2-game tryout confirmed he is really not ready for prime time. He was overwhelmed in the defensive zone repeatedly, attacking forwards tossed him aside with ease. The kid is only 19 and his offensive and skating skills are obvious but at this point he is a far cry from being an NHL defenceman.

It is true that Beaulieu was less sheltered by Therrien. Unlike Patteryn and Tinordi, Beaulieu was thrown out there against some pretty stiff oppostion. Nonetheless, the other two rookies were far less conspicuous in their debuts, a good thing.
He definitely needs to add more strength but he was very good in his own end. He will be a solid two-way D at the next level when he's ready.

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Just curious about the comparison's to Wiz -- does Nathan have even remotely the shot that Wiz does? That stuff is pure power. He's the guy I would have wanted to pick up if his cap hit wasn't so high. Then again, he IS a solid roster player if we acquired him for a couple of years. I'm sure we could make space. Sorry, veering off into what belongs in the other thread.
He's not even close to being Wisniewski, terrible comparison.

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Beaulieu's best comparison would be Caps' Mike green...

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It seems I'm alone in my opinion but Beaulieu's 2-game tryout confirmed he is really not ready for prime time. He was overwhelmed in the defensive zone repeatedly, attacking forwards tossed him aside with ease. The kid is only 19 and his offensive and skating skills are obvious but at this point he is a far cry from being an NHL defenceman.

It is true that Beaulieu was less sheltered by Therrien. Unlike Patteryn and Tinordi, Beaulieu was thrown out there against some pretty stiff oppostion. Nonetheless, the other two rookies were far less conspicuous in their debuts, a good thing.
I agree, but I think the skill is definitely there for him to progress in a top dman in this league. Hopefully these two games showed him what to expect in the big leagues and he now knows what to work on to be able to compete here. He will definitely need to get stronger, but that is true for most if not all 19 year old dmen. I have high expectations for him and Tinordi in the long run.

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Glad all 3 got a taste and don't have to be rushed up.

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Beaulieu's best comparison would be Caps' Mike green...
Yes and no. Beaulieu's defense is better at 20 than Green was until last year. I think once he fills out he can be above average at both ends, size reach and hockey sense can help him be an above average defender and on offense I think he has 40-60 point upside depending how he develops. His main weakness right now is he has a large frame that's not filled out, plus he needs to keep learning about NHL level defensive play, in junior he relied a lot of his individual skills. Reminds me a lot of Yandle.

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Interesting stats breakdown...

Oct: 6 GP 0-0-0
Nov: 10 GP 0-2-2
Dec: 14 GP 2-8-10
Jan: 10 GP 0-1-1
Feb: 12 GP 4-1-5
Mar: 10 GP 0-7-7
April: 1 GP 1-1-2

Before Dec 1st 16 GP 0-2-2
Since Dec 1st: 47 GP 7-18-25

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Wow...so they are really done with Kaberle and Weber. And St-Denis is clearly done as a Hab as well. St-Denis will be out next year that's a gimme. Pretty young defensive squad in Hamilton next year as you almost lose your only vet.

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Davis bumped up one pairing, Beaulieu slots in at #6 until Diaz returns. When Diaz is back, Whiskey takes one step back and Diaz fills in the #3-4 slot I reckon

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Wow...so they are really done with Kaberle and Weber. And St-Denis is clearly done as a Hab as well. St-Denis will be out next year that's a gimme. Pretty young defensive squad in Hamilton next year as you almost lose your only vet.
Losing him does/ will suck, but he's not very good to begin with.

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Losing him does/ will suck, but he's not very good to begin with.
St-Denis sucks.

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Wow...so they are really done with Kaberle and Weber. And St-Denis is clearly done as a Hab as well. St-Denis will be out next year that's a gimme. Pretty young defensive squad in Hamilton next year as you almost lose your only vet.
Losing/giving up Weber in a trade for nothing will suck.

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Losing him does/ will suck, but he's not very good to begin with.
I didn't see him nor concentrated on him this year, does seem that he struggled. But he was really fine when he was called up last year. Nothing extraordinairy, I know. Not a big loss at the NHL level. My point was more about how we need to be better in the farm. This BS about learning despite the record is just that...BS. We have to be better next year. We have to improve and improve in a better atmosphere than a losing one. So St-Denis, at the AHL level, was still a vet. You need vets in this league too. So lose St-Denis all you want. But go get 1 or 2 vets to play as a D EVEN if it means sending 1 or 2 kids in Wheeling. They'd learn more to play there often than to be healthy scratch in Hamilton or to play on such a young squad that they again don't win that much next year as well.

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I didn't see him nor concentrated on him this year, does seem that he struggled. But he was really fine when he was called up last year. Nothing extraordinairy, I know. Not a big loss at the NHL level. My point was more about how we need to be better in the farm. This BS about learning despite the record is just that...BS. We have to be better next year. We have to improve and improve in a better atmosphere than a losing one. So St-Denis, at the AHL level, was still a vet. You need vets in this league too. So lose St-Denis all you want. But go get 1 or 2 vets to play as a D EVEN if it means sending 1 or 2 kids in Wheeling. They'd learn more to play there often than to be healthy scratch in Hamilton or to play on such a young squad that they again don't win that much next year as well.
They need a go-to veteran AHLer forward, like an Alexandre Giroux, Keith Aucoin or something.

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Losing/giving up Weber in a trade for nothing will suck.
At this point, while I'm not Weber's biggest fan, we have to at least get a 5th, 6th, 7th rounder for him. The kid still didn't get really a fair chance. He could develop better elsewhere. Will never be dominant. But could be enough to be a #6 in this league. That alone deserves a bottom pick. I hope we work our magic to accomodate him and himself. We don't have a 5th rounder this year...let's go and get one.

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Losing/giving up Weber in a trade for nothing will suck.
Meh it's nothing i would lose too much sleep over.

I expect Bergevin to be pretty active this summer to get us some veteran depth. We have our top 6 signed for next year, so i'd expect 1 NHL vet signed (Drewiskie if he continues to impress) and probably one AHL vet that could maybe called up in a pinch. Tinordi, Beaulieu and Pateryn in the AHL but ready to come up if need be.

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They need a go-to veteran AHLer forward, like an Alexandre Giroux, Keith Aucoin or something.
Yes. That too. Though, they'll probably sign Tenute again. But those types of guys would really be fine as well.

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They must like what they saw from Beaulieu more than Tinordi. It will be interesting to see how the kid will do with bigger minutes and more pressure. I would also expect that maybe Kaberle will play as well, there is no way that he sits and Beaulieu gets all the playing time.

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