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Habs first-rounder on draft day

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04-07-2013, 07:03 PM
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Habs first-rounder on draft day

I would simply not expect the Habs to deal their first-rounder prior to draft day, even if we did an early exit. Since we expect the Habs' pick to be like #23-30, and we have six picks in the first three rounds, maybe we can use any one of the picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds to move up.

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04-07-2013, 07:05 PM
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Carolina offer 2nd 2013 and 2dn 2014

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Carolina offer 2nd 2013 and 2dn 2014
If we win the Cup and Carolina is bottom 3 in the league, sure. Otherwise, no.

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Carolina offer 2nd 2013 and 2dn 2014
Add Jeff Skinner, the Staal Brothers and Justin Faulk.

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Add Jeff Skinner, the Staal Brothers and Justin Faulk.
Oh come on this isn't 60 goal Ovechkin. That offer was obviously terrible but what you're asking for is ridiculous.

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Oh come on this isn't 60 goal Ovechkin. That offer was obviously terrible but what you're asking for is ridiculous.
You don't think he was maybe kidding?

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Oh come on this isn't 60 goal Ovechkin. That offer was obviously terrible but what you're asking for is ridiculous.
Did you take that seriously? The "" was implied.

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The thread title suggests trading the 1st round away
The post suggests trading the 1st round + other picks to move up in the draft.

Which one is it?
If its moving up then I'd say a 1st + habs 2nd should get us to around the 15th spot
If its trading away our 1st round I'd want a signed top 4 D

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Oh come on this isn't 60 goal Ovechkin. That offer was obviously terrible but what you're asking for is ridiculous.
Late night?

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I'd love to get the Flames another 1st, but I doubt we have the pieces to acquire one from you...

-Gio and GlenX hold the most value, but management said they won't move them.

-Cammy has a terrible relationship/image with Montreal, that won't work...

-Baertschi, Brodie, Backlund are part of the solution...

Any creative ideas, or just a no-go?

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It's not worth moving up in this draft ( unless you can go top 3 for reasonable price ).It's a deep draft : 25th + 50th >>>> ~15th

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The thread title suggests trading the 1st round away
The post suggests trading the 1st round + other picks to move up in the draft.

Which one is it?
If its moving up then I'd say a 1st + habs 2nd should get us to around the 15th spot
If its trading away our 1st round I'd want a signed top 4 D
What kind of top 4 D would you be targeting?

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I'd love to get the Flames another 1st, but I doubt we have the pieces to acquire one from you...

-Gio and GlenX hold the most value, but management said they won't move them.

-Cammy has a terrible relationship/image with Montreal, that won't work...

-Baertschi, Brodie, Backlund are part of the solution...

Any creative ideas, or just a no-go?
I'd seriously consider trading back your 2013 2nd round pick for Sieloff, that's the kind of player the Hab's need.

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I'd seriously consider trading back your 2013 2nd round pick for Sieloff, that's the kind of player the Hab's need.
Who the heck needs a defenceman that can only average .25 PPG in the OHL?

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Points are everything, obviously.

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Why does people always want to move up in the draft and never move down?

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Why does people always want to move up in the draft and never move down?
Because there can be only 1 Jankowski.

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I would simply not expect the Habs to deal their first-rounder prior to draft day, even if we did an early exit. Since we expect the Habs' pick to be like #23-30, and we have six picks in the first three rounds, maybe we can use any one of the picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds to move up.
If you win the division but exit after the first round Montreal draft pick would be 23-26. If they do not win the division they would be in the 20-23 range.

Montreal has Calgary's 2nd round which would be in the low 30s.


ASSUME: Montreal pick is 26

deal 1:
Montreal could use theirs and Nashville's (around 40-45) picks and move up around 5 spots to 20 or 21.

deal 2:

take the newly acquired pick and Calgary's 2nd round pick(31-34) they could include that and then move up around 8-9 spots from where they were after the first trade. Thus end up around 11-13


As a measuring stick--Buffalo moved from 21 to 14 by giving up a low 40s 2nd rounder.

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Why does people always want to move up in the draft and never move down?
Actually a team that is just outside the top 6....who is looking to rebuild....would be willing to take more picks.


a team in that 7-10 who couldnt get their guy may entertain offers from teams in the mid teens to move up where they give up more picks.

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Late night?

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I'd love to get the Flames another 1st, but I doubt we have the pieces to acquire one from you...

-Gio and GlenX hold the most value, but management said they won't move them.

-Cammy has a terrible relationship/image with Montreal, that won't work...

-Baertschi, Brodie, Backlund are part of the solution...

Any creative ideas, or just a no-go?
If you guys cannot reach a deal with Gio. I'd certainly offer a 1st + Tinordi/similar caliber forward prospct.

Cammalleri is a possibility, but you'd have to eat pretty much 50% of his contract if we're talking the first. That or add something enticing and still retain portion of it, albeit smaller.

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Who the heck needs a defenceman that can only average .25 PPG in the OHL?
This is probably the best way to scout a defenseman I have ever heard of.

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If you guys cannot reach a deal with Gio. I'd certainly offer a 1st + Tinordi/similar caliber forward prospct.

Cammalleri is a possibility, but you'd have to eat pretty much 50% of his contract if we're talking the first. That or add something enticing and still retain portion of it, albeit smaller.
He is signed for 3 more years, what type of deal are you expecting?

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He is signed for 3 more years, what type of deal are you expecting?
Whoops. With all this talk of extensions, I thought his contract was up sooner. My bad.

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And the Habs won't give up Tinordi when he's on the verge of making the NHL transition, he's developing into the big defenseman that they drafted him to be.

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I would simply not expect the Habs to deal their first-rounder prior to draft day, even if we did an early exit. Since we expect the Habs' pick to be like #23-30, and we have six picks in the first three rounds, maybe we can use any one of the picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds to move up.
If Habs could move up to 4th would they trade all top 6 picks they have?

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I very much doubt it, with so much depth in this draft and with Timmon's drafting abilities, this should be the draft that defines the Habs prospect pool for the next decade. They already have great depth and a good pool, this could really put them over the top. Just my opinion.

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