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04-08-2013, 11:40 AM
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Dropped the ball for sure. He's not even trying to make a trade after the deadline...

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04-08-2013, 11:41 AM
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I won't bother reading this crap, though. It doesn't deserve the hits.

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Agree, I said it on this same message board leading up to the trade deadline depth is king when it comes to playoff runs, simply picking up a pylon from another team dosn't cover things if a good player gets hurt. Should of picked up a top 4 dman and another forward, it's tough being right all the time but that's the burden I bare

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04-08-2013, 11:42 AM
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This thread topic was discussed here at length yesterday:

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1397945

Looks like the writers for that website may be getting story ideas from hfboards.

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04-08-2013, 11:42 AM
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lol lots of harsh responses. The article is 'ok' , just that his view of what is the "Big picture" is a bit wrong.

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That's not the bigger picture! that's short term, MB is looking at the bigger picture.
The bigger picture is putting your team in a position to win the cup every year. You can't keep falling for the "oh we'll be in a strong position next year" fallacy.

Now our blue line has Bouillon, a warm body who's played a handful of games the last few years and some of the greenest rookies in the league. Diaz who's concussed, Kaberle who we're not allowed to play, and Weber who's just plain awful.

We're going to be exposed on the back-end and it's the GMs fault - be he Bergevin or Gauthier or Gainey or Savard. You can't fanboy incompetence or lack of foresight no matter how snappy he dresses.

Next season will be even tougher because there is more travelling, more injuries, more cold streaks and a tighter cap - Boston got Jagr, Pittsburgh got Iginla, Morrow and Murray, the Rangers traded Gaborik for Brassard and Clowe... and the Habs got a 7th d-man to complete Dandouillon v2.

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04-08-2013, 11:43 AM
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Yeah not a Canadiens fan at all but didn't your team get 2 D men before the deadline?

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04-08-2013, 11:44 AM
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Dumb article.
Agreed.

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04-08-2013, 11:46 AM
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It is a dumb article for the reasons mentionned above.

Remember when Markov got injured during that playoff run where we got to the ECF? A very young PK Subban was called up and he gained a lot of experience early into his NHL career. The same could be done with Beaulieu.

Besides, we still have Weber and Kaberle that could go.

Big picture? Maybe you're the one missing the big picture.

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04-08-2013, 11:47 AM
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I am not even going to read the article.


MB did the right thing by keeping the picks. Multiple picks for a few weeks of a guy who will likely not resign is just dumb unless you are really near the end of your window to win it all.

Clearly the habs are just at the start of that window, far too soon to throw away picks....

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Meanwhile, Ray Shero is a genius because he predicted James Neal's concussion when he picked up Iginla, Morrow and Jokinen.

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Meanwhile, Ray Shero is a genius because he predicted James Neal's concussion when he picked up Iginla, Morrow and Jokinen.
Celery predicted Bergeron's injury too by getting Jagr. I'm so jelly.

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[QUOTE=Slashers98;63551895]Marc Bergevin Drops The Ball As Canadiens Lose Alexei Emelin
http://thehockeywriters.com/marc-ber...alexei-emelin/

Feel free to agree or disagree with me![/QUOTE

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Why must GM predict the future? Was he supposed to trade for 10Ds just in case the whole roster got injured and we needed to play 10 D since out forward depth is lacking?

He added 1 D to go with the already 8 NHL D (Markov, Emelin, Subban, Gorges, Cube, Diaz, Kaberle, Weber) + having 3 NHL capable players in the minors in Pateryn, Beaulieu, Tinordi.

That is 11 D that could fill the roster without Davis.

Anyways, pathetic writing on your behalf. Do you own a crystal ball, maybe you can lend it to MB...

I imagine I do not read anymore of your articles considering you have no idea what you are talking about.

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I, for one, agree with this article.



Edit:
My bad, I thought it was the awkward La Presse picture thread!

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This article makes Rejean Tremblay seem like an okay writer.

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This thread topic was discussed here at length yesterday:

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1397945

Looks like the writers for that website may be getting story ideas from hfboards.
yeah and your thread is just as dumb as the article.

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04-08-2013, 12:02 PM
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This article makes Rejean Tremblay seem like an okay writer.
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The bigger picture is putting your team in a position to win the cup every year. You can't keep falling for the "oh we'll be in a strong position next year" fallacy.

Now our blue line has Bouillon, a warm body who's played a handful of games the last few years and some of the greenest rookies in the league. Diaz who's concussed, Kaberle who we're not allowed to play, and Weber who's just plain awful.

We're going to be exposed on the back-end and it's the GMs fault - be he Bergevin or Gauthier or Gainey or Savard. You can't fanboy incompetence or lack of foresight no matter how snappy he dresses.

Next season will be even tougher because there is more travelling, more injuries, more cold streaks and a tighter cap - Boston got Jagr, Pittsburgh got Iginla, Morrow and Murray, the Rangers traded Gaborik for Brassard and Clowe... and the Habs got a 7th d-man to complete Dandouillon v2.
So if BOS loses a top 4 D, Chia sucks because he didn't get any top 4 D? You think Jagr is/will make big difference to that club? Do you think we are as good for years to come as Pit that we can afford to move assets for overpriced soon to be UFA's ? Are the NYR exactly the team people should NOT follow? desperate for success year in year spending your time making deals, wooing big name UFA's instead of developing their players?
Bergy is aware of what this team needs, and what areas need to be upgraded, but trade deadline in a shortened season is not the time to do those things, unless you are desperate, which we are not (mostly because we went from last in the east to top of our division)

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So if BOS loses a top 4 D, Chia sucks because he didn't get any top 4 D? You think Jagr is/will make big difference to that club? Do you think we are as good for years to come as Pit that we can afford to move assets for overpriced soon to be UFA's ? Are the NYR exactly the team people should NOT follow? desperate for success year in year spending your time making deals, wooing big name UFA's instead of developing their players?
Bergy is aware of what this team needs, and what areas need to be upgraded, but trade deadline in a shortened season is not the time to do those things, unless you are desperate, which we are not (mostly because we went from last in the east to top of our division)
It's not worth it. Some posters think making trades is like a video game... They have no idea what it takes to make a deal at the deadline. The habs were buyers, thus at a disadvantage. Posters are going to cry all they want that MB didn't make any moves, but how is he going to sell the future one year removed from the NHL basement. Don't worry, you aren't alone in your argument, a lot of us know better than to trade away picks in a deep draft for a player that may play 20 games.

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The bigger picture is putting your team in a position to win the cup every year. You can't keep falling for the "oh we'll be in a strong position next year" fallacy.

Now our blue line has Bouillon, a warm body who's played a handful of games the last few years and some of the greenest rookies in the league. Diaz who's concussed, Kaberle who we're not allowed to play, and Weber who's just plain awful.

We're going to be exposed on the back-end and it's the GMs fault - be he Bergevin or Gauthier or Gainey or Savard. You can't fanboy incompetence or lack of foresight no matter how snappy he dresses.

Next season will be even tougher because there is more travelling, more injuries, more cold streaks and a tighter cap - Boston got Jagr, Pittsburgh got Iginla, Morrow and Murray, the Rangers traded Gaborik for Brassard and Clowe... and the Habs got a 7th d-man to complete Dandouillon v2.
I agree with what WhiskeySeven has to say here. Bergevin should have spent one of those three 2nd rounder and gotten more that just a #7 dman. The objective is to win a Stanley Cup and the Habs have a decent shot this year. Shero and Chia, both Cup winners, moved assets to improve their chances, I think Bergevin should have been a little more aggressive at the trade deadline.

Then again, maybe Drewiski or Beaulieu or Tinordi step up. But that's a long shot.

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Now our blue line has Bouillon, a warm body who's played a handful of games the last few years and some of the greenest rookies in the league. Diaz who's concussed, Kaberle who we're not allowed to play, and Weber who's just plain awful.

Hum, our blue line also has the potential Norris winner this year, Andrei Markov and Josh Gorges.

Geez.

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