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04-08-2013, 09:04 PM
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Subban is still not a shoe-in. There are so many good d-man to choose from.

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Is that before or after he finds the cures for cancer and leprosy?
He'll have to solve global warming first to shut P.J. Stock up.

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04-08-2013, 09:18 PM
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He'll have to solve global warming first to shut P.J. Stock up.
You're joking, right? Nothing can shut up P.J. Stock. He barely speaks pidgin French and he needs to go on RDS because his time allotment on CBC isn't enough.

I heard his wife is a New York Italian. He's probably getting her to teach him some Italian so he can go on RAI next.

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Subban will win a gold medal in the 2016 Rio games for the Men's 10 m platform.

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04-08-2013, 09:21 PM
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You're joking, right? Nothing can shut up P.J. Stock. He barely speaks pidgin French and he needs to go on RDS because his time allotment on CBC isn't enough.

I heard his wife is a New York Italian. He's probably getting her to teach him some Italian so he can go on RAI next.
He has a hard time speaking proper English!

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04-08-2013, 10:34 PM
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Corson was the only one in 1998.

Subban's big competition is Doughty-Letang-Pietrangelo. All righty D's who are offensively gifted and play in all situations. He has to outperform 1, if not 2 of them before the team is named.
Him over Letang for sure.

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04-08-2013, 10:50 PM
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Yes, I have Weber as a lock. Which leaves 2 or 3 spots for the Subban/Doughty/Piet/Letang group to complete the right side of the D (1 could be the 7th).



Normand Flynn thinks Letang is waaaay better.
Doughty played the left side in Vancouver, and Letang can as well IIRC. IMO they'll all be on the team and likely all in the top 6.

Keith - Weber
Doughty - Subban
Letang - Pietrangelo
Staal/Seabrook

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04-08-2013, 11:05 PM
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Bergeron was an iffy pick at the time, as far as reaction went. Turned out to be a specialist that took draws, didn't win as many as he might have wanted but was still valuable. He is miles better as a player right now. If he was on the team then, he'll be there next year. Selke winner, picking up more points and still wins a ton of draws. Gotta stay healthy tho.

As for Subban, I don't think he's a shoo-in, however if he has a year like he does next year there's very little chance he's left off.

In no particular pairing order..

Weber, Keith, Pietrangelo, Doughty, probably Subban, and Seabrook, Mcdonagh, Marc Staal and Girardi fighting for the last spot or 2, depending on the identity they want to bring. Also very right-handed shot heavy but we're not very deep with lefty shots.

EDIT: forgot Letang, however I think it might be him or Subban for the speed/creativity role. Still not totally sold on Letang's D and size. But with the bigger ice they might be smarter picks than slower players like Girardi or Staal (however Staal shoots left, which could be needed).

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04-08-2013, 11:38 PM
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Bergeron was an iffy pick at the time, as far as reaction went. Turned out to be a specialist that took draws, didn't win as many as he might have wanted but was still valuable. He is miles better as a player right now. If he was on the team then, he'll be there next year. Selke winner, picking up more points and still wins a ton of draws. Gotta stay healthy tho.

As for Subban, I don't think he's a shoo-in, however if he has a year like he does next year there's very little chance he's left off.

In no particular pairing order..

Weber, Keith, Pietrangelo, Doughty, probably Subban, and Seabrook, Mcdonagh, Marc Staal and Girardi fighting for the last spot or 2, depending on the identity they want to bring. Also very right-handed shot heavy but we're not very deep with lefty shots.

EDIT: forgot Letang, however I think it might be him or Subban for the speed/creativity role. Still not totally sold on Letang's D and size. But with the bigger ice they might be smarter picks than slower players like Girardi or Staal (however Staal shoots left, which could be needed).
McDonaugh is American and no way Girardi gets even a sniff.

Marc Staal is a stay at home defenseman who has some skill but you gotta think they want to go with speed and transition on the big ice and he does not fit the bill, especially since Weber and Pietrangelo can bring that element at a much higher level. Seabrook is interesting, however I think he was brought last time for instant chemistry with Keith, and this time around he just isn't at the same level.

Should be interesting no matter what though.

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04-08-2013, 11:47 PM
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McDonaugh is American and no way Girardi gets even a sniff.

Marc Staal is a stay at home defenseman who has some skill but you gotta think they want to go with speed and transition on the big ice and he does not fit the bill, especially since Weber and Pietrangelo can bring that element at a much higher level. Seabrook is interesting, however I think he was brought last time for instant chemistry with Keith, and this time around he just isn't at the same level.

Should be interesting no matter what though.
Well **** me didn't know McD was a Yank. He'll definitely play then haha. Good point on Staal. I guess on the big ice you want as much speed as possible.

Weber-Keith
Pietrangelo-Doughty
Subban-Letang
Seabrook

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6 righties if I'm correct on that.

Anyway love these conversations. Can't wait for Sochi.

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04-09-2013, 12:04 AM
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The RHD situation could be cause for worry. Not sure how that will be dealt with tbh.

Yzerman better get his **** together and not **** this up!

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I know he's not the same player he was 4 years ago but Dan Boyle on big ice plus veteran presence will not get passed over lightly.

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04-09-2013, 12:17 AM
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Bergeron will make the team. He's much better than he was back then, great defensively and he's clutch.

I ****ing hate him though.

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04-09-2013, 12:19 AM
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Where did I say Bergeron sucked? Still, there's a difference between being a fine two-way player and being a starter at C, probably the deepest position on the best hockey team in the world. This was a WTF pick then, and odds are Bergeron will not be a starter this time. Too many better guys out there.

Come and tell me he deserves to start before Stamkos, Tavares, Toews, Thornton, Staal and Getzlaf.
You're spewing names like dandelion spores. Personally, I'd rather have (Patrice) Bergeron on the Habs than (Joe) Thornton, (Eric) Staal, or Getzlaf. I had a hunch that even the addition of Jagr to the Bruins roster wouldn't fully compensate for his absence last Saturday. In the Soviet-Canada series of 1972 the indispensable player proved to be Paul Henderson rather than several more celebrated stars. Apparently you lack sufficient appreciation of Bergeron. He's great defensively and perhaps the best faceoff man in the NHL. A number of teams that'll compete at Sochi are capable of scoring when they have puck possession, but surely you already know that.

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04-09-2013, 12:37 AM
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Knowing how incompetent Yzerman has proven to be, I'm not counting my eggs before they hatch for either Price or Subban.
you trying to be edgy?

subban im not sure will be there yet, but price is as guaranteed to be there as crosby is

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Bruin or not, Bergeron is one of the smartest, most dependable players in the league. In what universe is he a WTF pick?

I'd take Patty B on my team any day of the week and twice on Sunday!!
Bergeron is one of the best Center in the league. He's the best on faceoffs. He's up there with Datsyuk and Toews as far as two-way centers go.

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Where did I say Bergeron sucked? Still, there's a difference between being a fine two-way player and being a starter at C, probably the deepest position on the best hockey team in the world. This was a WTF pick then, and odds are Bergeron will not be a starter this time. Too many better guys out there.

Come and tell me he deserves to start before Stamkos, Tavares, Toews, Thornton, Staal and Getzlaf.
The first two were too young to make that team back then, and the rest were all on that team. Team Canada had 11 centers I believe last olympics, Stamkos and Tavares will most likely play the wing, it's no biggie. I'm not sure Thornton will make the team again, but he'll be in the discussion, definitely. Bergeron is a lock for that team.

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04-09-2013, 08:10 AM
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Seabrook won't make it again, you can count on that and Neidermeyer is done. Was Pronger on the team, I can't remember?

I'd have to go with:

Weber-Doughty
Keith-Pietrangelo
Subban-Letang
Staal/Giordano
What? No Dion ("Over Rated" - clapclap clapclapclap) Phaneuf?

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I think both PK AND Price have a great chance of making the team.

All the other defensman mentioned in the conversation are excellent and PK is leading or top 5 in all the categories they're in. If he starts next year at the pace he's going at this year or even close, I don't see how he doesn't make the team.

Add tot hat he's young and played for team Canada in the Juniors and he'll likely be seen as a defensman for them for many years to come. Same goes for Price on the goalie side.

All the Canadians need now is an All Star Canadian forward to compete the trifecta of Canadiens playing for team Canada!

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Lmao, a Gold Medal isn't enough to prove he is qualified?

As for the Patrice Beregon pick. He helped in critical moments when a face-off was needed. It's not about selecting the overall most skillful players, but you need to select certain role players. Which is what Yzerman did.

As for the topic at hand, I'd love to see PK on the team. Hell of a talent.
He got lucky, they barely won, almost went to shootouts (joke and a half). Took too many defensive players. What kind of a dumbass takes brendan morrow and patrice bergeron over lecavalier and brad richards??

Now he is being proven incompetent down in tampa bay. Time for this dim bulb to go take PR job in detroit and get away from hockey decision.

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04-09-2013, 09:13 AM
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On TSN 690 Pierre McGuire just mentioned that he has been in contact with some of the people on the selection staff for Team Canada and it sounded like P.K. is as close to a shoe-in as you can get. It sounded like the only way for P.K. to be removed would be for him to crap the bed.
99.9% sure its Babcock, I remember last year Pierre saying that he was at a BBQ with the Wings coaching staff before a game he was doing for NBC, and they were going over Rosters.

So I guess Babcock is a fan of Subban

Not a big fan of Pierre, but gotta give him credit, ppl seem to ask him for input, few weeks ago he mentioned that Shero (I think their are bff), was asking him for scout reports on the Kenny Agostino before they traded him for Iggy.

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You're spewing names like dandelion spores. Personally, I'd rather have (Patrice) Bergeron on the Habs than (Joe) Thornton, (Eric) Staal, or Getzlaf. I had a hunch that even the addition of Jagr to the Bruins roster wouldn't fully compensate for his absence last Saturday. In the Soviet-Canada series of 1972 the indispensable player proved to be Paul Henderson rather than several more celebrated stars. Apparently you lack sufficient appreciation of Bergeron. He's great defensively and perhaps the best faceoff man in the NHL. A number of teams that'll compete at Sochi are capable of scoring when they have puck possession, but surely you already know that.
Well, duh. Of course Jagr wouldn't compensate for Bergeron's loss. They don't even play the same position, and the former is a 40 years old forward who is now as unidimensional (while great at what he does) as they come.

As for taking Bergeron before Thornton, Staal or Getzlaf, well good for you. I definitely wouldn't.

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All the Canadians need now is an All Star Canadian forward to compete the trifecta of Canadiens playing for team Canada!
You mean Canadiens. Let's go crazy and say Gallagher. I know it's ridiculous but what the hell.

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