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04-09-2013, 12:49 PM
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They might not be hockey guys, but they are businessmen. I suspect they know how to conduct interviews and select a capable president.
Agreed and Josh Kroenke doesn't strike me as a dumb person, plus what he did for the Nuggets instills confidence.

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I would hope that Sakic would be the no-brainer as new President. Not only does a move like that instill confidence from management on down, but it also sends out a good message to the fans. If the Kroenke's are as good of businessmen as people say, this move would have to be the one they would make if they ever got rid of Lacroix.

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04-09-2013, 12:54 PM
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I would hope that Sakic would be the no-brainer as new President.
I think he will be, but I am going to assume he has a lot more to learn on the business end of things.


Regardless, Lacroix isn't going anywhere IMO.

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04-09-2013, 01:00 PM
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I think he will be, but I am going to assume he has a lot more to learn on the business end of things.


Regardless, Lacroix isn't going anywhere IMO.
Probably not, but all reports of Lacroix having the ear of Stan Kroenke has a few years on them.

Who knows what Josh Kroenke thinks of Lacroix or how he feels about losing?

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04-09-2013, 01:04 PM
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Probably not, but all reports of Lacroix having the ear of Stan Kroenke has a few years on them.

Who knows what Josh Kroenke thinks of Lacroix or how he feels about losing?
Nobody really knows what Josh thinks about the Avs, but you can say that he doesn't stand for losing with the Nuggets. I hope he starts taking that hands on approach with the Avs.

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04-09-2013, 01:13 PM
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I get a feeling a lot of you guys are going ADD and ADHD on the situation than having a bit of patience,
Patience? PATIENCE!? PATIENCE!?!?!?!

This team has finished an avg of 11th the last 3 seasons and that number looks to be getting worst this season yet the same coaches and GM's are there.

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04-09-2013, 01:14 PM
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Patience? PATIENCE!? PATIENCE!?!?!?!

This team has finished an avg of 11th the last 3 seasons and that number looks to be getting worst this season yet the same coaches and GM's are there.
Who says we should (or are) a playoff team?

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04-09-2013, 01:20 PM
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The front office sucks because we are probably the only team in the league who has not changed its philosophies since the 04-05 lockout, and that is terrifying. So, with that being said:

1) Stan Kroenke NEEDS to sell this team if they want to go back to their glory years. His main priorities right now are the Rams and Arsenal, with the Nuggets coming in 3rd, he and his son could care less about the Avalanche, I have no idea why they still have the team but this club desperately needs new owners to breathe new life into the franchise

2) Pierre Lacroix needs to either be fired or step down from his position and not be associated with the team anymore, and that goes for his son Eric too because I'd assume he's being trained by Pierre to be the same way. He built two stanley cups? Sure, in the pre-cap era, now tell me what he's done in the post-lockout salary cap era? Absolutely nothing, that's what. Its not that he's lost his touch because I believe if this was still a no-cap league, he'd thrive, but he just does not know how to manage a team with a salary cap. He never had to, so how would he know how? That's a huge issue

3) Greg Sherman needs to either be fired or step down. I get that there were very few defenseman available via free agency but if that doesn't make your team better, then the next best option is a trade and we have a very valuable trading chip in Paul Stastny. I love the guy to death but he could bring back a solid defenseman for this club and that's worth more to me than having him play as a 3rd line checking center behind Duchene and O'Reilly. That, and the fact that he still has not fired Sacco (Lacroix could be to blame for this too) is why he needs to go

4) Sacco needs to go, I don't even need to explain this one

5) In my own honest opinion, I'd like to have Patrick Roy take over both the GM and Head Coach positions on this team with Joe Sakic taking over as President of Hockey Operations. It may be risky, but Roy is a proven winner over in the Q, and even though its junior, I believe the guy just has "it". He's a winner. He's passionate, and I believe he can be the guy to get the job done for this team. Not to mention, I'm sure guys like Duchene and Landeskog and Seth Jones growing up avs fans would love to play for a childhood idol

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04-09-2013, 01:20 PM
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Jeff Marek just said (implying he's heard rumblings, take it with a grain of salt) on MvsW that he thinks it will be a regime change in Colorado with *gasp* Eric Lacroix as GM.

Also, he doesn't think Roy would want to be coach in an organization that's down, since he likes to put himself in spots where he looks good and also might not want to be controlled by a GM.

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04-09-2013, 01:22 PM
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Who says we should (or are) a playoff team?
Last season when we were in the hunt until the very end with Duchene putting up only 28 points is what says we should be a playoff team even with this garbage defense. Wilson/Johnson and Hejda/Barrie is a good enough top 4 to get you there and if you don't agree with that then just take a good look at the Senators defense

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Jeff Marek just said (implying he's heard rumblings, take it with a grain of salt) on MvsW that he thinks it will be a regime change in Colorado with *gasp* Eric Lacroix as GM.

Also, he doesn't think Roy would want to be coach in an organization that's down, since he likes to put himself in spots where he looks good and also might not want to be controlled by a GM.
Oh, what a shocker...

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Jeff Marek just said (implying he's heard rumblings, take it with a grain of salt) on MvsW that he thinks it will be a regime change in Colorado with *gasp* Eric Lacroix as GM.

Also, he doesn't think Roy would want to be coach in an organization that's down, since he likes to put himself in spots where he looks good and also might not want to be controlled by a GM.


Tony Granato here we come.

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04-09-2013, 01:34 PM
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Jeff Marek just said (implying he's heard rumblings, take it with a grain of salt) on MvsW that he thinks it will be a regime change in Colorado with *gasp* Eric Lacroix as GM.

Also, he doesn't think Roy would want to be coach in an organization that's down, since he likes to put himself in spots where he looks good and also might not want to be controlled by a GM.
Is it really regime change when the prince takes his place on the right of the throne once he becomes of age and the placeholder is sent away?

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04-09-2013, 01:37 PM
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Jeff Marek just said (implying he's heard rumblings, take it with a grain of salt) on MvsW that he thinks it will be a regime change in Colorado with *gasp* Eric Lacroix as GM.

Also, he doesn't think Roy would want to be coach in an organization that's down, since he likes to put himself in spots where he looks good and also might not want to be controlled by a GM.
The words regime change, and Eric Lacroix as GM contradict each other.

This would be the most ridiculous egotistical nepotism to date if PL hires his son. So he hasn't been part of the group deciding which players to bring in, and how to handle negotiations? That's his ***damn job! Has Sherman just been a patsy for PL to hand the reins over to his kid?????

We need to form some sort of pre-emptive strike to keep this from happening. Kroenke, your president is hiring all his family and friends and costing you money!!!!!!!

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04-09-2013, 01:38 PM
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Is there any indication that Eric would be a bad GM? Or are people just sick of the general nepotism?

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Is there any indication that Eric would be a bad GM? Or are people just sick of the general nepotism?
The latter... It would also be yet another sign that PL hasn't given up any control over the franchise.

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Is there any indication that Eric would be a bad GM? Or are people just sick of the general nepotism?
I've asked the same question. He has some experience, has payed his dues, and played in the NHL for a long time. I doubt he is the dope people make him out to be, but nobody knows. And regardless, the optics are bad.

I will make fun and joke at him, but I will also give him a chance if he is named GM.

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Is it really regime change when the prince takes his place on the right of the throne once he becomes of age and the placeholder is sent away?
I think he meant both coach and GM will be replaced, not going into lineage.

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Sherman hasn't even done that bad.. He should get a chance with a second coach.

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The truth is that none of us knows how will Eric do if he gets the nod, but that would be such a blatant example of nepotism that might be just too much to handle.


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There are several examples of fathers and sons being GMs in the NHL (Poile, Fletcher). But I prefer it if the son goes on to carve his own path in another organization like those two examples.

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I've asked the same question. He has some experience, has payed his dues, and played in the NHL for a long time. I doubt he is the dope people make him out to be, but nobody knows. And regardless, the optics are bad.

I will make fun and joke at him, but I will also give him a chance if he is named GM.
Yeah, me too.

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04-09-2013, 02:03 PM
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There are several examples of fathers and sons being GMs in the NHL (Poile, Fletcher). But I prefer it if the son goes on to carve his own path in another organization like those two examples.
Bowmans' as well and so far they have been really solid, but when you're one of the best coaches, General Manager is like cakewalk.

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One benefit to getting Eric Lacroix is that it would create more bizarre conspiracy theories on this board. They're usually entertaining for a while.

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One benefit to getting Eric Lacroix is that it would create more bizarre conspiracy theories on this board. They're usually entertaining for a while.
Gives us something in the offseason to complain about... we need more of that.

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