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08-25-2006, 07:16 AM
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Patrik Allvin

The Penguins recently hired Patrik Allvin to be their head European scout. Prior to that, he worked as a European scout for Montreal for 4 years. Was this guy let go by Montreal first, or did he simply make a move on his own? Was he Montreal's head European scout, or just part of the staff there?

Also, how did he perform as a scout while you had him? Do you know of any good or bad recommendations he's had in prior drafts?

Thanks for any info, guys.

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The Penguins recently hired Patrik Allvin to be their head European scout. Prior to that, he worked as a European scout for Montreal for 4 years. Was this guy let go by Montreal first, or did he simply make a move on his own? Was he Montreal's head European scout, or just part of the staff there?

Also, how did he perform as a scout while you had him? Do you know of any good or bad recommendations he's had in prior drafts?

Thanks for any info, guys.
I've never heard of the guy myself. After checking out the Habs website, I found this: Patrick Allvin Amateur Scout - Sweden.

No, he wasn't our head European scout. Seems like he was our scout for Sweden. And, well, as far as I can recall right now, we haven't drafted a Swede in many years.

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I've never heard of the guy myself. After checking out the Habs website, I found this: Patrick Allvin Amateur Scout - Sweden.

No, he wasn't our head European scout. Seems like he was our scout for Sweden. And, well, as far as I can recall right now, we haven't drafted a Swede in many years.

Heino-Lindberg in 2003, Eneqvist in 2000. For whatever reason, we just don't seem to believe in Swedish players.....I would definately take that Swedish-Finnish route from now on than the Russian route....

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Heino-Lindberg in 2003, Eneqvist in 2000. For whatever reason, we just don't seem to believe in Swedish players.....I would definately take that Swedish-Finnish route from now on than the Russian route....
True, Heino slipped my mind. Eneqvist was, well, more or less, a miss. So I guess that's a possibly 1 for 2 record, if Heino pans out.

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Imo it depends on what you are looking for in a player.

Typical for sweden is defensively sound, tacticly/system knowlagble player ...but there is often the lack of top end talent/high upside.
Rare cases Forsberg, Näslund, Sundin for example.
Swedes tend to be ok in most areas but never really excel at any see Niklas Sundström

My feeling is that with Montreal adding NA scouts they want more focus on homegrown talent and they sacrifice some scandinavian scouting doing so.
I do wish they would still hire someone though, loosing Allvin doesn't seem that big.

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Thanks guys.

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I've been posting at these boards about Montreal's evident lack of liking for the Swedes.

It's shameful. I want a Swedish defenseman, for once. At once.

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I've been posting at these boards about Montreal's evident lack of liking for the Swedes.

It's shameful. I want a Swedish defenseman, for once. At once.
Peter Popovic made up my mind. I don't want swedish defensemen!

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