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08-26-2006, 11:30 AM
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Was thinking if we were to put bonk on waivers( the off chance someone picked him

up) and maybe leave a spot for chipper or lappiere. Being so prospect heavy, and

bonks salary, it would be a rational move, and I could see some team grabbing him

to be honest. But do we even have waivers any more?

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08-26-2006, 11:44 AM
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Was thinking if we were to put bonk on waivers( the off chance someone picked him

up) and maybe leave a spot for chipper or lappiere. Being so prospect heavy, and

bonks salary, it would be a rational move, and I could see some team grabbing him

to be honest. But do we even have waivers any more?
i don't think it's a good idea migth aswell use him this year yes he makes too much for what he brings to the team but he's a great pk'er and with all the penalties i'm more comfortable with him in this role than ferland or lapierre and it's not like we are in imediate need of cap room. the cap room created by bonk's departure will probably be used for markov not signing dumont

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But do we even have waivers any more?
Are you serious?

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Yes, there obviously still are waivers. I think you're mixing up "waivers" with the "waiver draft." There is no longer a waiver draft, where we have to protect a certain number of players each year.

But to send a guy down to the AHL, once they reach a certain age / number of games played, etc., they still have to clear waivers. You can also put a player on waivers without sending them down.

And there is no point in doing this now. If Lapierre or Chipchura outplay Bonk in camp, *perhaps* management will consider it. You don't want to "leave" a spot for them. You want them to earn it.

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Bonk is a good veteran and plays great on the PK. If his salary was 1 mill no one would be complaining. He only has on year left on his contract so I dont see a problem with sticking with him. He will play 4rth line center and PK duty. We dont need the extra money right now.

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do the Habs would have to pay x % of his salary if a team takes him ? or what about cap salary rule in that case ?

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do the Habs would have to pay x % of his salary if a team takes him ? or what about cap salary rule in that case ?
Habs won't have to pay a penny if someone claims him right away. If he clears waivers and goes to the minors, he would be subject to waivers again upon recall. A team could then claim and be forced to pay only half the cap hit. The Habs would pay the other half, which would count against their salary cap.

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i don't think it's a good idea migth aswell use him this year yes he makes too much for what he brings to the team but he's a great pk'er and with all the penalties i'm more comfortable with him in this role than ferland or lapierre and it's not like we are in imediate need of cap room. the cap room created by bonk's departure will probably be used for markov not signing dumont
Totally agree, not worth what we pay him but does a good PK job and we'll just have to deal with his contract for this year and most likely just let him go to make room for prospects at the end of the season.

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Totally agree, not worth what we pay him but does a good PK job and we'll just have to deal with his contract for this year and most likely just let him go to make room for prospects at the end of the season.
Exactly, our center depth is too weak to give up Bonk. I like Saku, but I doubt he can ever play a full season (never seen somebody jinxed so badly...eye injury with a visor ) and I don't trust Ribs much. Best to keep Bonk around till the end of the year and then look for an upgrade.

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I do thing we should jump the gun and try to get rid of Bonk just yet. He really in my opinion improved in the second half of the season, even though he was playing on the third/fourth line. Like some people have already mentionned he does kill penalties, and as a center it allows Koivu to save his energy for even strength or PP situations. I know his contract is a burden, but if Ribeiro does not pan out on the second line he can also be someone to fill that spot if necessary. At least he's got the talent as well the footspeed to do so. Another thing is that he's also played on top lines in ottawa, which means playing regularly with the likes of Hossa and Alfie. This suggests that maybe he can step in and play that kind of role with Kovy and Samsonov, who are also skilled forwards with speed. Lastly, he's in his contract year, so if he actually wants to remain in NHL, he should show a willingness to contribute offensively a bit more this season.

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Was thinking if we were to put bonk on waivers( the off chance someone picked him

up) and maybe leave a spot for chipper or lappiere. Being so prospect heavy, and

bonks salary, it would be a rational move, and I could see some team grabbing him

to be honest. But do we even have waivers any more?

Let's see how Chipchura does in the AHL first.

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i don't think it's a good idea migth aswell use him this year yes he makes too much for what he brings to the team but he's a great pk'er and with all the penalties i'm more comfortable with him in this role than ferland or lapierre and it's not like we are in imediate need of cap room. the cap room created by bonk's departure will probably be used for markov not signing dumont
He didn't play for what he was worth last year, but I think this year will be different. If he plays this year like he played at the end of last season; then we'll get our money's worth. He'll probably still be gone after his contract, but I think he'll play a much better game, after all he's got a lot to prove. He's also looking forward to a healthy year which is always important.

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He didn't play for what he was worth last year, but I think this year will be different. If he plays this year like he played at the end of last season; then we'll get our money's worth. He'll probably still be gone after his contract, but I think he'll play a much better game, after all he's got a lot to prove. He's also looking forward to a healthy year which is always important.
I hope your rigth i actually like Bonk i would keep him next year if he'd be ready to accept league minimum

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Bonk > Chipchura & Lapierre.

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I do thing we should jump the gun and try to get rid of Bonk just yet. He really in my opinion improved in the second half of the season, even though he was playing on the third/fourth line. Like some people have already mentionned he does kill penalties, and as a center it allows Koivu to save his energy for even strength or PP situations. I know his contract is a burden, but if Ribeiro does not pan out on the second line he can also be someone to fill that spot if necessary. At least he's got the talent as well the footspeed to do so. Another thing is that he's also played on top lines in ottawa, which means playing regularly with the likes of Hossa and Alfie. This suggests that maybe he can step in and play that kind of role with Kovy and Samsonov, who are also skilled forwards with speed. Lastly, he's in his contract year, so if he actually wants to remain in NHL, he should show a willingness to contribute offensively a bit more this season.
i agree totally , he is a viable option if rebeiro bombs or gets hurt or if koivu is not fully recovered or sustains an injury , which i think makes him a valuable assett at least for this year . it's nice to have a center who can fill in as the pivot on all four lines as the need arises . a lot of people don't take into account that the guy was traded twice , then there was the lockout , playing with and getting used to new team mates and a new city , juliens incessant line juggling , and the nagging groin injury , it was'nt until gainey took over behind the bench that he finally settled in and became an effective player towards the end of the year . barring injury , i expect bonk to be much improved this year and put an end to at least some of the dislike that he garners on these boards .

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Bonk is a good veteran and plays great on the PK. If his salary was 1 mill no one would be complaining. He only has on year left on his contract so I dont see a problem with sticking with him. He will play 4rth line center and PK duty. We dont need the extra money right now.
I think Bonk's defensive contribution to the team can be replaced by Johnson depending on how Johnson is at faceoffs. With Plekanek, Higgins, Begin, Johnson, Murray, Begin we are quite well equiped with penality killers.

I mind more about not developing some of our kids fast enough rather the the money we would gain from Bonk's contract. A Chipchura, Latendresse, Lapierre, Ferland would bring a element of grit and nastyness that is greatly missing to this team.

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not defending Bonk, but...

It's his last year, so we might as well stick it out with him...
And...
We should get the best out of him this year since he will be UFA this summer!!
And...
it'll give time for Chipchura to gain AHL experience...(maybe Chip will get NHL time if bonk gets injured, or it will be Lapierre...?).

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Bonk > Chipchura & Lapierre.
Maybe, but...
Chipchura and Lapierre are such leaders/winners that they may have an edge over Bonk as early as this season. In the end, we have lots of depth with Bonk, Chip, Lapierre...

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08-27-2006, 02:31 AM
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bonk has a LOT to prove to not only the team, but to himself and the entire NHL. this is his UFA season, so he should improve his effort immensely to cash in for future seasons. i'm pretty sure bonk was embarrassed by his lack of offense last season, but he was very good as a shutdown specialist. did a good job on the PK as well. if he can get 10-15 goals, and around 35-40 points while on a checking role...i'll be very happy. with his skillset it won't be too difficult for him to achieve these targets with a solid work ethic.

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