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04-10-2013, 07:03 AM
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As of this morning, based on win%, we'd draft 8th. And here's how our other picks would shake out (assuming NJD doesn't forfeit their 1st this year):

Round 1

8th overall
19th overall (from Minnesota)

Round 2

38th overall
50th overall (from St. Louis)

Round 3

69th overall

Rounds 4-5

111th overall (from St. Louis, if they win at least one playoff round)--otherwise 141st overall
129th overall
134th overall (from New Jersey)

Round 6

159th overall

Round 7

189th overall

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As of this morning, based on win%, we'd draft 8th. And here's how our other picks would shake out (assuming NJD doesn't forfeit their 1st this year):

Round 1

8th overall
19th overall (from Minnesota)

Round 2

38th overall
50th overall (from St. Louis)

Round 3

69th overall

Rounds 4-5

111th overall (from St. Louis, if they win at least one playoff round)--otherwise 141st overall
129th overall
134th overall (from New Jersey)

Round 6

159th overall

Round 7

189th overall
6th, according to Sports Club Stats.

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL.html

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6th, according to Sports Club Stats.

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL.html
Yet 8th according to the league standings -- http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm...22013&type=LEA

Games in hand will play with the standings too, I'm sure.

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6th, according to Sports Club Stats.

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL.html
Based on current win%, we'd pick 8th. That's the number I'm using, the actual standings on that date.

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Based on current win%, we'd pick 8th. That's the number I'm using, the actual standings on that date.
How does SCS come up with their standings? I figured it would use win%, no?

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seems like alot of mock drafts and draft experts have Monahan and Lindholm going around 7-8, that would bode well for us if that were the case.

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what does everyone think of JT Compher? haven't seen him play yet but will get a good look at the end of the month ( Under 18s). Is Joe Pavelski a decent comparable? If so he would be a guy I am very interested in.

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what does everyone think of JT Compher? haven't seen him play yet but will get a good look at the end of the month ( Under 18s). Is Joe Pavelski a decent comparable? If so he would be a guy I am very interested in.
He's a very hard worker with skill. Been with the USNTDP forever, will play in the U-18 WC for Team USA and going to Michigan next year. While I can see some Joe Pavelski comparisons, he projects more likely to be a #2C, or a scoring line #3C, but could just as easily become like Joe Pavelski as he has the drive. Would be an excellent grab with Minnesota's late 1st.

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I like Compher as well.

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Scout’s take on the top goalies of the 2013 draft class:
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“I'd say this is on the mediocre-to-weak side, mainly due to the fact most pro scouts aren't projecting any goalies (aside from maybe Fucale) to go in the first round,” says Goldman. “One of the top goalies available suffered a tough injury (Tri-City Americans’ Eric Comrie), another did not impress in the key month of March (Mississauga Steelheads’ Spencer Martin), and the other did not have the luxury of a large sample size (Edmonton Oil Kings’ Tristan Jarry)."

"But what really sticks out to me is the lack of size in the top-30 goalies available. If you look down the list, so many are listed at 6-feet, 6-foot-1, or 6-foot-2. There are very few goalies listed at 6-foot-3 or above, which is a significant advantage for the likes of (Witcha Falls Wildcats’) Evan Cowley, (Portland Winterhawks’) Brendan Burke, (Windsor Spitfires’) Jordan DeKort, and (Salmon Arm Silverbacks’) Adam Clark. Taking nothing away from the smaller goalies, there will always be a place for them at the pro ranks, but since "optimal size" is at somewhat of a premium, that may lend a hand to this being a bit of a weaker draft for goalies.”
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As for International goaltenders, no one stands out as a top-30 pick as Vasilevski and Dansk did last year; however, there are a handful of overseas puck stoppers that seem to have the potential to be late-round steals down the road. Juuse Saros, Central Scouting Service’s top ranked International goaltender, garnered scouts’ interest at U18 tournaments for Finland, maintaining a 2.45 average and a .921 save percentage throughout nine games. Swedish natives Ebbe Sionas and Marcus Hogberg, ranked second and third by Central Scouting in that respective order, seem to be the next in line.

Although Goldman is high on Saros and Hogberg, he believes Fredrik Bergvik could end up being one of the top International goaltenders of the draft.

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04-11-2013, 02:03 PM
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The way the Grigorenko thread is going, we should move Grigs with a 2nd and move up to the first round for a 3rd 1st rounder. Or move him with the Minnesota pick!

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The way the Grigorenko thread is going, we should move Grigs with a 2nd and move up to the first round for a 3rd 1st rounder. Or move him with the Minnesota pick!
Nah, just leave him be rather than trying to rush him into the NHL. He may very well be the offensive catalyst center they need in 2 or 3 years time, but many seem way ahead of themselves with pencilling him in to the lineup already.

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04-11-2013, 02:34 PM
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Get all the Swedes! Lindholm would be a good pickup.

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Found out that a player I've seen a lot of, defenseman MacKenzie Weegar of the Halifax Mooseheads, is actually the nephew of Craig Rivet.
He's a 94 that was passed over last year but was ranked by some lists last year and I think he deserves a shot this season.

He played with Nepean in the CCHL last season and signed a card with the Moose halfway through the season with the intent to join them this year.
He's a bit undersized but can run a power play, which is exactly what he was brought in to do.

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Morin ascends rapidly:
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Samuel Morin (D, 2013), Rimouski

Made startling progress through his second QMJHL campaign, culminating in a breakout playoff performance – tying for second in team scoring (6-1-6-7) .. led Rimouski with 117 penalty minutes in the regular season .. former seventh-overall pick in the 2011 QMJHL Midget Draft .. a mean, hulking defender .. smooth and agile with striking fluidity and stride balance for such a large man – and bolstered by massive extremities .. acceleration speed and top gear improved significantly over the course of the season .. must keep upgrading his quickness in stops, starts, and reversals .. transitions fluidly from back to front and can initiate the breakout with a solid first pass .. his poise and decision-making as a puck-mover have matured exponentially this season .. making softer plays with the puck, and showing better vision of the ice .. received increasing power-play time thanks to a booming point shot .. unrefined as a shooter – rushes plays, head down at times, albeit shows a knack for getting to the net and into advanced positions .. needs to upgrade his overall physical consistency .. injects bursts of physical nastiness – like jabbing opponents with his stick – and will suddenly unload a ferocious finishing check .. can get quite reckless .. will be a strapping mountain once matured .. projects as a suffocating defender if his game can develop a solid ‘defense-first’ foundation .. quite reactive in his own end – chases plays and doesn’t appear to sense the game all that instinctively .. upgrading his stick-work is imperative – striving to protect passing lanes better – particularly in dangerous areas .. routinely, almost innately, drifts forward toward the heart of the action – and right past it at times .. his 1-on-1 play and his overall positioning and gap control will all need significant development time .. gets beaten trying to stand up against the rush .. takes poor angles and gets wrong-footed by shifty opponents .. what he misses in experience and raw instincts however, he makes up for in size, mobility and a Chara-like spread .. sucks in pucks from defensive situations like an octopus.

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"Samuel Morin" sounds so old, or a name made-up in NHL 13.

Isn't he like 6'6 or 6'7? Projected to be a 2nd rounder?

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Where is Duclair projected to be drafted? Do our Q followers like him?

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Where is Duclair projected to be drafted? Do our Q followers like him?
Slipped to mid-second round last I heard.

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Get all the Swedes! Lindholm would be a good pickup.
I'm no draft expert - I combine watching youtube videos and reading opinions on here and other sites. That said, I like Lindholm's game as well. Outside of the top three prospects, I think his game transitions to the NHL best. I like Nichushkin's size, speed, and skill, but I think Lindholm plays at the same pace and is more physical. Barkov is big and skilled; I like the tempo of Lindholm's game better.

I won't pretend to know much beyond the casual fan, but that's what I see.

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Where is Duclair projected to be drafted? Do our Q followers like him?
His playoffs will be a big determiner, right now I would say there is a decent chance he would be available with our early 2nd rounder.

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Where is Duclair projected to be drafted? Do our Q followers like him?
Early to mid 2nd would be my guess. I haven't watched the remparts much lately, but the impression I got of him earlier in the year was: good hands, pretty good shot, questionable hockey IQ.

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If we're out of the top 3 barkovs my number one target, near PPG pace in a mens league and a young september 1995, almost a full year younger than monahan

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Where is Duclair projected to be drafted? Do our Q followers like him?
I like his game quite a bit. If he could bulk up some and up his compete level I think he could end up being a top 6 forward. He's got some good hands, good speed, and good scoring touch. If he's there with our second rounder I'd think about taking him for sure. I'd love it if we could get Erne and Duclair in this draft.

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Barkov and Erne in the first round would round out our forwards pretty nicely for the next ten years

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