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04-10-2013, 07:21 AM
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Should we buyout Jokinen?

I would like to hear other people's thoughts on this subject.i think Jokinen has been our weakest player for the majority of the year,even gagnon without scoring a goal has looked like he has brought more to the jets lineup then Jokinen.i was a fan of the signing and I have been trying to look at the positive things joki has done all year but it is just becoming evident that he is our weakest link, who they have playing with Kane which hurts the team even more.Sorry joki I just can't look the other way anymore the game has passed you by!

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04-10-2013, 07:26 AM
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Why would you buy out a player when he has 1 year left?
No need to pay him 2/3 his salary for 2 years (I think) to play for another team.
Just let him ride it out next year and be done with it.Edit: From CapGeek

If he had more then 1 year remaining, it may be worth taking a look at however.

Olli Jokinen buyout from CapGeek.com

2013-14: $1,500,000
2014-15: $1,500,000

So as you can see we would be paying him 3 million to play for someone else.
Doesnt make allot of sense to me.

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04-10-2013, 07:55 AM
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No. As much as I am disappointed in his play this year, it would be hard to for him to have a repeat performance next year. Besides, we can always ship him at the deadline next year if we are out of the playoffs. His remaining salary would be much more attractive to potential buyers.

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LOL no. He has 1 year left.

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If anything trade him. He would certainly fetch at least a 4th or 3rd. Good lord we were able to move poni

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If anything trade him. He would certainly fetch at least a 4th or 3rd. Good lord we were able to move poni
Has a modified NTC.

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04-10-2013, 08:32 AM
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this season is an abberation, add that with only having one season left and how much cap space we have? why would you bother?

Frame it this way.

if you have signed jokinen 4 years ago to a 6 year deal, for the same cap hit we have him on this deal, you wouldn't ship him out, because you'd think the slump was an abberation. it just looks worse because it's the first year we've had him, but i'm confident he will not be nearly this bad next season.


that and i 100% disagree that aaron gagnon has brought more to the jets

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04-10-2013, 09:09 AM
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you don't buy him out. you play him on a 3rd line where his performance dictates he should be.

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04-10-2013, 09:29 AM
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you don't buy him out. you play him on a 3rd line where his performance dictates he should be.
Yep. Unless...
  • Chevy doesn't think Noel will actually push him down to the 3rd line and will hinder the development of the youth on the roster. Also could be rectified by moving away from the coach.
  • Chevy has a shot at a couple really good UFA options and he can't afford Jokinen and remain under the cap. This could happen, but I don't think it will.
I didn't mind the Jokinen signing, but it clearly hasn't worked out. Imagine how much cap space the Jets would have if they weren't spending 4MM (combined) over market value on Joker and Pavs. Those two deals more than eat up the overages on the Antro / Hainsey deals.

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you don't buy him out. you play him on a 3rd line where his performance dictates he should be.
This.

And not on the point on PP.

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No. He'll be better next year.

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I wish Jokinen would move off the line with Kane. Because I really enjoyed that Wright-Jokinen-Peluso line. Perhaps when Tony P is back we see a reunion.

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Don't see any reason to buy out Jokinen.

His production should improve next season (*cough* contract year *cough*), and if he continues to crap the bed we can probably trade him for a draft pick.

Where he will fit in the lineup next season is the big question, I hope the answer is on any line other than Kane's.

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04-10-2013, 10:23 AM
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I wish Jokinen would move off the line with Kane. Because I really enjoyed that Wright-Jokinen-Peluso line. Perhaps when Tony P is back we see a reunion.
What would that do to the rest of the lineup?

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Kane-Burmi-Welly
Wright-Jokinen-Peluso
Tanger-Slater/Gags-Santorelli

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I see him taking Antropov's spot as the overpaid, once top 6 now 3rd line veteran forward. He'll have a good week everyone once and awhile, but mostly just going through the motions.

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He'll be one of the names bandied about before the trade deadline next year because he will be an upcoming UFA. If his performance is great, you keep him if you're in contention or then again, sell high.

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It would be worth it if only for the fact that it removes the option of playing him on the point on the PP!

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I see him taking Antropov's spot as the overpaid, once top 6 now 3rd line veteran forward. He'll have a good week everyone once and awhile, but mostly just going through the motions.
NO, when I was hard on him everyone said: "he hasn't played in 9 months, take's an older guy a bit longer to get his legs back" that was after 10 games, SO THEN "well he has to adjust to a new system, he is old, he just needs to get his legs and touch back", that was after 20 games, THEN IT WAS " well he'll come around it just takes time until he rounds into his old self", that was 30 games in, NOW, "he's not a scorer anymore, he doesn't hurt us defensively, he is a good 3rd line centre"

Jokinen wasn't brought in to play the third line, he was brought in to play as the second line centre (which he has with very little success), the Jets have plenty of guys capable of filling the 3rd and 4th line roles, the problem with the team is finding more guys for the top 6 NOT the bottom 6.


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No need to with only one year left on his contract.

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What would that do to the rest of the lineup?

LLW
Kane-Burmi-Welly
Wright-Jokinen-Peluso
Tanger-Slater/Gags-Santorelli
at some point in the season, if not at the start, we shoudl probably expect to see Scheifele, right? What does that do to the lineup?

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you don't buy him out. you play him on a 3rd line where his performance dictates he should be.
This. Why on earth put him on the 2nd line if he's not earning it.

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Not that he should be playing the 2nd line, because really he has been bad most of the year, but playing devil advocate here, why does Jokinen need to earn 2nd line minutes, when allot of people here think/thought another... a little younger center should have been on the second line without earning it?

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What would that do to the rest of the lineup?

LLW
Kane-Burmi-Welly
Wright-Jokinen-Peluso
Tanger-Slater/Gags-Santorelli
I like that. I think Welly and Santorelli could switch places but Welly has been great lately so I'm not so sure.

We've heard numerous times from Flames fans that Jokinen needs to be the go-to guy on his line. He's not that with Kane.

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I like that. I think Welly and Santorelli could switch places but Welly has been great lately so I'm not so sure.

We've heard numerous times from Flames fans that Jokinen needs to be the go-to guy on his line. He's not that with Kane.
He looked at his best this year when he was carrying Tony and Wright.

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Exactly, thats where he should be. Not on the "2nd" line, where he is the absolute wrong person to play with Kane.

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you don't buy him out. you play him on a 3rd line where his performance dictates he should be.

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