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04-10-2013, 03:52 PM
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I think its pretty clear thats not what I want, nor expect.

....Torts on the other hand....
This we can agree on

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He is currently 4th on this team in total points.
11-12 he would have been tied with MDZ for 5th
10-11 he would have been 4th, 1 point behind Cally.

He did that playing on a team that was in the bottom 1/4 of the NHL in Goals For.

Is he gonna be Gabby and have 40 goal seasons? Probably has the same chance as I do.

Because he isn't performing to his 6th overall draft selection doesn't mean he can't be a good player for this team.
All I gather from this is that both the New York Rangers and Derick Brassard have been relatively lousy offensively over the past few years.

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04-10-2013, 04:09 PM
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Ive also come to the realization that this fanbase will never ever be happy with their 3rd line center anyway.
That's because when they say they want a 3rd line center, what they're really saying is that they want a 1st line center, two 2nd line centers, and only then maybe a 3rd line center.

But why stop there? Let's just get 4 first line centers!

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Maybe if he and Boyle had their ice time switched he could produce more.

The only negative about Brass is that he keeps passing to Boyle

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Maybe if he and Boyle had their ice time switched he could produce more.

The only negative about Brass is that he keeps passing to Boyle
Ahh yes, another misguided shot at Brian Boyle. Maybe Brassard can learn to kill penalties if he wants more ice time.

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All of the above at some point in his career. This year, mainly 2c/3c
So it wouldn't be completely outrageous to say he may have been dicked around a bit and had some pressure put on him at times?

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Ahh yes, another misguided shot at Brian Boyle. Maybe Brassard can learn to kill penalties if he wants more ice time.
Maybe Boyle's PP time should be given to Brassard
And maybe Boyle should stop being double shifted 5-5

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04-10-2013, 04:22 PM
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Ahh yes, another misguided shot at Brian Boyle. Maybe Brassard can learn to kill penalties if he wants more ice time.
I don't think his post was that off...BB has had one outlier offensive season so counting on him for offense is probably not a great plan.

I'll just quote you from a prior post...Hes played over 300 NHL games. Hes 28 years old. To totally wipe the slate clean when discussing him as a player is absurd.

And I'm not even a BB hater.

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04-10-2013, 04:25 PM
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I don't think his post was that off...BB has had one outlier offensive season so counting on him for offense is probably not a great plan.

I'll just quote you from a prior post...Hes played over 300 NHL games. Hes 28 years old. To totally wipe the slate clean when discussing him as a player is absurd.

And I'm not even a BB hater.
I honestly have zero clue where you're headed with this. Boyle and Brassard are both on the 3rd line. They have recently been playing on the same PP unit. Boyle kills penalties and Brassard does not, so theres your difference in ice time. 3rd liners. Keep it that way.

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I honestly have zero clue where you're headed with this. Boyle and Brassard are both on the 3rd line. They have recently been playing on the same PP unit. Boyle kills penalties and Brassard does not, so theres your difference in ice time. 3rd liners. Keep it that way.
I think the point is that the original poster was making was that BB limits the offensive impact that our new 3rd line (and 2nd powerplay unit) could have with Brassard on them, because he is challenged offensively. The poster you were quoting (and I) were simply saying they agree with him.

The issue (at least as far as 3rd line ice time goes - have no idea if Torts will keep using BB on the PP) is likely to be resolved when Dorsett gets back.

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04-10-2013, 04:35 PM
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I honestly have zero clue where you're headed with this. Boyle and Brassard are both on the 3rd line. They have recently been playing on the same PP unit. Boyle kills penalties and Brassard does not, so theres your difference in ice time. 3rd liners. Keep it that way.
I was addressing the 2nd part of his post that you responded to that the only thing Brass has done wrong is pass to Boyle.

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So it wouldn't be completely outrageous to say he may have been dicked around a bit and had some pressure put on him at times?
Brassard usually played on the 3rd line for CBJ, this season with Prospal and Letestu as wingmen. 10-12 mins a game average. I know he didn't like it too much, usually had to wait for grandpa Prospal who's almost 40...

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I was addressing the 2nd part of his post that you responded to that the only thing Brass has done wrong is pass to Boyle.
Gotcha. So we're already at the "Derick Brassard needs to play with better offensive players to break out" argument. Or as I like to call it "The Chris Kreider Theory."

If you're going to call Boyle offensively inept, then you have to recognize that Brassard is defensively inept and not exactly a world beater offensively either. Lets not forget he got some time with Nash in Columbus.

Anyway, they're both 3rd liners right now, where they should be. Im not the one trying to make Derick Brassard a better player than he actually is.

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Gotcha. So we're already at the "Derick Brassard needs to play with better offensive players to break out" argument. Or as I like to call it "The Chris Kreider Theory."

If you're going to call Boyle offensively inept, then you have to recognize that Brassard is defensively inept and not exactly a world beater offensively either. Lets not forget he got some time with Nash in Columbus.

Anyway, they're both 3rd liners right now, where they should be. Im not the one trying to make Derick Brassard a better player than he actually is.
I'm not making him out to be anything since I've only seen him play 4 games...I'm only using your methodology in evaluating Boyle's offensive ability...which is his 300 NHL games played.

Maybe you've seen him play more, but I'm going off what I've seen in his short tenure in NY.

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04-13-2013, 04:56 PM
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Maybe if he and Boyle had their ice time switched he could produce more.

The only negative about Brass is that he keeps passing to Boyle
He loves to pass when he is not scoring because he does not want the puck. He needs a lucky goal or two because at this point, he is feeling so much pressure he could explode. This will compound - - squeezing the stick...quarter step behind...don't make a mistake... and dying to pass. He gets in the mode of "please don't give me the puck..."

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04-13-2013, 05:22 PM
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He loves to pass when he is not scoring because he does not want the puck. He needs a lucky goal or two because at this point, he is feeling so much pressure he could explode. This will compound - - squeezing the stick...quarter step behind...don't make a mistake... and dying to pass. He gets in the mode of "please don't give me the puck..."
Ouch that doesn't sound good. Scary thing is, this sounds exactly like how Wolski played here. Hopefully he plays with confidence.

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Gotcha. So we're already at the "Derick Brassard needs to play with better offensive players to break out" argument. Or as I like to call it "The Chris Kreider Theory."

If you're going to call Boyle offensively inept, then you have to recognize that Brassard is defensively inept and not exactly a world beater offensively either. Lets not forget he got some time with Nash in Columbus.

Anyway, they're both 3rd liners right now, where they should be. Im not the one trying to make Derick Brassard a better player than he actually is.
This made me laugh hard.

I also think Brassard is what he is. Skilled enough to be a 2nd liner, too inconsistent for a 3rd liner. Part of that is he also seems to play a little shy, so to speak. I'm definitely intrigued to see what he can do after a full Torts camp.

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This made me laugh hard.

I also think Brassard is what he is. Skilled enough to be a 2nd liner, but too inconsistent so he's often a 3rd liner. Part of that is he also seems to play a little shy, so to speak. I'm definitely intrigued to see what he can do after a full Torts camp.
Corrected myself.

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He passed the puck a few times tonight when he should have shot but that last pass was sure a beauty!

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The whole team should've shot more.

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i didnt realize Brassard can pass the puck. he has good hands.. very skilled. i wonder why he hasnt reached his potential yet... i hope he breaks out here.

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He passed the puck a few times tonight when he should have shot but that last pass was sure a beauty!
Agreed. And that last pass was feathery goodness. That was weighted perfectly.

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Thought all of our centers had pretty subpar games all around, but that pass to G was a beauty.

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Very bad tonight besides that sick pass.

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Very bad tonight besides that sick pass.
Yeah to be honest I was pretty pissed to see him on the ice in OT. He made a beauty of a play there though.

Random thought for next season: Anyone else think Kreider would really benefit from playing with Brassard? I think their playing styles would look good together...at least in the offensive zone .

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