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04-09-2013, 08:39 AM
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The difference though is that the Isles contend Nassau has been derelict of upkeep at the Coli and have stopped paying rent because of that.

Nassau wants cash. They will take a settlement for a buyout over having to refurb the coliseum to keep the rent coming in.

Also - the land around the coliseum is very valuable as one of the only parts of Nassau Real Estate that can be developed -- Nassau, I believe wants to move on and start life without the Isles as soon as possible.
We also had the Milsteins take the County to court, trying to break the lease with the argument that the arena wasn't safe.

I agree the County wants cash and to move onto developing the land. I just don't expect it'll turn nasty enough to land in court. Why should it, when both sides want to move on?

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Be a smart move by the Islanders, the quicker they can get out of their current stadium the better.

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But what about the brooklyn arena itself...don't some adjustments need to be made to the seating layout before the Isles move in?

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NYIslanders 8:34am via HootSuite BREAKING NEWS - #Isles to play first #NHL game at @barclayscenter in preseason game on Sept. 21, 2013 v. #NJDevils. nyisl.es/jTzog

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Lets see how hockey work at Barclays. Cant wait.

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But what about the brooklyn arena itself...don't some adjustments need to be made to the seating layout before the Isles move in?
the source in the article, was quoted saying next season was too soon for the move because “Too much work to be done heading into Barclays.”

I thought that meant they needed to get a locker room built for the NYI, get those extra 500-1,000 seats squeezed in and ramp up the advertising/tix sales push.

Isles have sent their ice girls and mascot to Brooklyn school events. I'm guessing that this summer and next season, will see the players doing Brooklyn fan events.

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Isles feeling the fans out, about a name and logo change.
http://riverheadnewsreview.timesrevi...iform-changes/

“It was really about the move and about what kind of jersey they’re going to have,” the resident said of the focus group. “They were really pushing to lose the orange color and be like the old Brooklyn Dodgers.”

The fan said that though he was open to the change, all the other people in the focus group were against it.


“Everyone else was like ‘I hate it,’ ” he said. “People didn’t want any changes. Everyone loves it and no one wants [the jersey] to change.”

The focus group, which he said was run by IC International, also asked how fans felt about teams with celebrity owners.

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Isles feeling the fans out, about a name and logo change.
http://riverheadnewsreview.timesrevi...iform-changes/

“It was really about the move and about what kind of jersey they’re going to have,” the resident said of the focus group. “They were really pushing to lose the orange color and be like the old Brooklyn Dodgers.”

The fan said that though he was open to the change, all the other people in the focus group were against it.


“Everyone else was like ‘I hate it,’ ” he said. “People didn’t want any changes. Everyone loves it and no one wants [the jersey] to change.”

The focus group, which he said was run by IC International, also asked how fans felt about teams with celebrity owners.
If the Gorton's disaster is good for anything, it was good at making Islanders fans wary of change for change's sake.

If they're going to ask Isles fans about that, I expect the results are going to be overwhelmingly along the lines of "don't touch a damn thing"...if they ask Brooklyn hipsters who aren't going to go to games...well...




Wanting the team to tie together to a baseball team that left nearly 60 years ago is a bit...weird...especially because the Brooklyn Dodgers really weren't that successful of a franchise.

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If the Gorton's disaster is good for anything, it was good at making Islanders fans wary of change for change's sake.

If they're going to ask Isles fans about that, I expect the results are going to be overwhelmingly along the lines of "don't touch a damn thing"...if they ask Brooklyn hipsters who aren't going to go to games...well...




Wanting the team to tie together to a baseball team that left nearly 60 years ago is a bit...weird...especially because the Brooklyn Dodgers really weren't that successful of a franchise.
When I read that article, I didn't come away thinking they want to be tied to the old Brooklyn Dodgers. I thought they want to drop the orange color in their current jersey, while keeping the blue and white. Those old Brooklyn Dodger colors.


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When I read that article, I didn't come away thinking they want to be tied to the old Brooklyn Dodgers. I thought they want to drop the orange color in their current jersey, while keeping the blue and white. Those old Brooklyn Dodger colors.

Yeah, I understood what they were going for...but correct me if I'm wrong, the blue is already a bit of an homage to the Dodgers (indirectly...the Islanders borrowed the colors of the Mets, who's colors combined the two baseball teams that left for California in the 50s - the blue of the Dodgers and the orange of the Giants).

I don't think there's a situation where the Islanders would go for that, though, considering there's already two teams in the same conference with strict blue and white color schemes.


To be fair, I would not mind the Islanders introducing a script that borrowed the Brooklyn Dodgers font (i.e. be the same damn thing) and roll with an alternate jersey built around that...but they just can't ditch the orange.


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Yeah, I understood what they were going for...but correct me if I'm wrong, the blue is already a bit of an homage to the Dodgers (indirectly...the Islanders borrowed the colors of the Mets, who's colors combined the two baseball teams that left for California in the 50s - the blue of the Dodgers and the orange of the Giants).

I don't think there's a situation where the Islanders would go for that, though, considering there's already two teams in the same conference with strict blue and white color schemes.


To be fair, I would not mind the Islanders introducing a script that borrowed the Brooklyn Dodgers font (i.e. be the same damn thing) and roll with an alternate jersey built around that...but they just can't ditch the orange.
The Islanders colors come from the two counties that make up Long Island.

Nassau: Orange
Suffolk: Blue

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The Islanders colors come from the two counties that make up Long Island.

Nassau: Orange
Suffolk: Blue
Interesting, thanks for that. That's an odd coincidence, then.

So, again correct me if I'm wrong, the three teams in New York that use those colors use them for entirely different reasons.

Mets for the throwback to the departed NY baseball teams, Islanders for the two non-NYC borough Long Island counties, and the Knicks for the colors of New York City. That just blew my mind for some reason.

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Interesting, thanks for that. That's an odd coincidence, then.

So, again correct me if I'm wrong, the three teams in New York that use those colors use them for entirely different reasons.

Mets for the throwback to the departed NY baseball teams, Islanders for the two non-NYC borough Long Island counties, and the Knicks for the colors of New York City. That just blew my mind for some reason.

Sorta kinda. Anything orange in New York ultimately comes down to New York's connection to the New Netherlands colony.

Brooklyn; Knickerbocker; Nassau; Bronx, all used to be Dutch names.

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Sorta kinda. Anything orange in New York ultimately comes down to New York's connection to the New Netherlands colony.

Brooklyn; Knickerbocker; Nassau; Bronx, all used to be Dutch names.
Exactly, all the orange in New York can strictly be tied to the Dutch

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Exactly, all the orange in New York can strictly be tied to the Dutch
But there is a bit of an English connection... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_III_of_England
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William III & II (Dutch: Willem III; 4 November 1650 – 8 March 1702)[1] was a sovereign Prince of Orange of the House of Orange-Nassau by birth. From 1672 he governed as Stadtholder William III of Orange (Dutch: Willem III van Oranje) over Holland, Zeeland, Utrecht, Gelderland, and Overijssel of the Dutch Republic. From 1689 he reigned as William III over England and Ireland; it is a coincidence that his regnal number (III) was the same for both Orange and England. As King of Scotland, he is known as William II.[2] He is informally known by sections of the population in Northern Ireland and Scotland as "King Billy".[3] In what became known as the "Glorious Revolution", on 5 November 1688 William invaded England in an action that ultimately deposed King James II & VII and won him the crowns of England, Scotland and Ireland. In the British Isles, William ruled jointly with his wife, Mary II, until her death on 28 December 1694. The period of their joint reign is often referred to as "William and Mary".

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William III was a Dutch royal who came to the throne in England because of his wife...

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One of the reasons I think the isles want to move in 2014-2015, instead of next season, is to give Ratner time to have those 500-1,000 extra seats added, along with a new locker room.

Below's an estimate of what those arena changes will cost.

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/D...Islanders.aspx
Published October 29, 2012

Despite the “additional costs of some off-season construction, this deal still makes financial sense to the Barclays Center.” An arena spokesperson said, “We may add in premium seats behind the goal.” There also would be the expense of adding a locker room. Two sources said that Barclays had “hired an engineering firm to see how expensive it would be to accommodate more hockey fans.” It is expected to cost roughly $25M. The spokesperson “described the costs as negligible and said it was less than $25 million, declining to give specifics”

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I really hope this happens. I hate watching the games on TV that are in the Coliseum, I bet the Barclay's Center would be much more vibrant on a TV.

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Are the plans to expand the arena buy a few hundred seats for hockey firm or was it more of we're gonnna look into it.

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Are the plans to expand the arena buy a few hundred seats for hockey firm or was it more of we're gonnna look into it.
The way Bettman and Wang, responded to the question of extra seats at the Brooklyn presser, it sounds like Ratner has told them he'll get 500-1000 more seats in.

In a recent Newsday fanchat, Staple said he expects it'll be 15,000. that's 500 extra seats.

Moving from Nassau to Brooklyn, the isles lose roughly 1200 regular seats and gain about 70 luxury suites.

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The jersey idea sounds like a good idea for a 3rd jersey. Blue and white jersey with the Brooklyn script except with Islanders in it's place. Would be interesting imo.

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The Islanders colors come from the two counties that make up Long Island.

Nassau: Orange
Suffolk: Blue
Beg to differ.

Nassau is a Dutch name.
Orange and Blue are Dutch colors.

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No, you don't *need* to, and I didn't suggest otherwise.

I'm just saying that IF you do, there is a whole lot of marketing/revenue greenfield out there. I will never be a fan of the NYI - but I have strong emotional/business ties to Brooklyn so even though I am three time zones away, I *would* in fact adopt a Brooklyn hockey team as my "home away from home".

But it's got to be "Brooklyn Islanders" (or whatever), slapping a Brooklyn logo onto NYI ain't gonna cut for me.
New York Islanders of Brooklyn.

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In interviewing Brett Yormark at #sbjsff, my take is you'll see more black and white in #Isles merch when they get to Brooklyn.

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Wang responds to questions about a jersey change.

https://twitter.com/sbjsbd/status/324909366664908800
Wang: Islanders name, main color scheme will remain the same. No overhaul change along those lines coming. #sbjsff
8:36 AM - 18 Apr 13

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