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04-10-2013, 03:56 AM
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Voting for the regular season of the 2013 ATD is now open. If you haven't been following lineup assassinations, please try to at least skim the 8 divisional lineup assassination threads before voting.

You are to compare the 4 teams in each division against each other and rank them 1-4.

Rank your own team 1st in your division; it is the reward for voting. If co-GMs both vote, they each get 1/2 a vote when it comes to ranking their own division.

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04-10-2013, 05:57 AM
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We have until when to send our voting? I would much prefer take a few hours to look it up when I'll be in a 'less' interesting place than Moscow. I'm leaving on Saturday the 13th, so am I ok if I send it on the 14th or 15th?

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04-10-2013, 06:45 AM
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We have until when to send our voting? I would much prefer take a few hours to look it up when I'll be in a 'less' interesting place than Moscow. I'm leaving on Saturday the 13th, so am I ok if I send it on the 14th or 15th?
I think midnight Pacific time on the 14th is a reasonable deadline. That gives everybody through the weekend to read the threads and bios, think about the teams, and get their votes in. As you know, Eagle, voting should not be a 5 minute thing.

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04-10-2013, 09:56 AM
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Submitted my votes.

Man, a couple of the divisions were so close that I literally could have ranked them in any order and justified it to myself.

There is a LOT of parity in the draft. Even the teams that I would consider the "worst" are actually decent and competitive!

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04-10-2013, 11:24 AM
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My 2nd favorite team I picked over my own in my own division....how screwy is that?

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04-10-2013, 11:37 AM
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My votes will be in tonight or tomorrow.

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My 2nd favorite team I picked over my own in my own division....how screwy is that?
Everybody is supposed to vote their own team first. That way they all just cancel out, and nobody gets an advantage.

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04-10-2013, 01:58 PM
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My votes will be in tomorrow, lots of interesting battles so far. Very wide open again this year.

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04-10-2013, 04:36 PM
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I think midnight Pacific time on the 14th is a reasonable deadline. That gives everybody through the weekend to read the threads and bios, think about the teams, and get their votes in. As you know, Eagle, voting should not be a 5 minute thing.
That's fine with me. I doubt I'll be awake and sober enough to tally the results after 3am EST, but I should be able to post them the next day.

Edit: Do you mean midnight between the 14th and 15th or midnight between the 13th and 14th?

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04-10-2013, 04:59 PM
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Edit: Do you mean midnight between the 14th and 15th or midnight between the 13th and 14th?
Sorry, I meant between the 14th and 15th. Give people through the end of the weekend to get their votes in.

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04-10-2013, 05:56 PM
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Everybody is supposed to vote their own team first. That way they all just cancel out, and nobody gets an advantage.
In hindsight, the other team has a slight advantage over me at defense....other than that I think we're pretty damn close.

If you want me to be biased and lie, then tell me so.

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Do we still want to give teams a full 7 days for the first round of the playoffs?

It's 5 days for every subsequent round.

The reason for the extra 2 days for the first round is because it's traditionally the first time that teams get individualized attention, but maybe we don't need to do that with the assassinations split by division.

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04-10-2013, 07:55 PM
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In hindsight, the other team has a slight advantage over me at defense....other than that I think we're pretty damn close.

If you want me to be biased and lie, then tell me so.
It's not about being biased. It's the best way to elimante the effect of voting on your own team. If everyone votes themselves first, it's a wash.

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04-10-2013, 08:18 PM
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Just to be sure here, i am supposed to rank all the divisions right?

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Just to be sure here, i am supposed to rank all the divisions right?
Yes

And vote yourself first in your own

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It's not about being biased. It's the best way to elimante the effect of voting on your own team. If everyone votes themselves first, it's a wash.
So it's status quo? Do what everybody else does? I looked at the teams as honestly, unbiased and as objectively as possible....and I'm getting **** for it?

No ****ing pleasing some folks I guess...

**** it, I feel just like upsetting the apple cart just to be contrary now.....stupid me for actually think the way I do.

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So it's status quo? Do what everybody else does? I looked at the teams as honestly, unbiased and as objectively as possible....and I'm getting **** for it?

No ****ing pleasing some folks I guess...

**** it, I feel just like upsetting the apple cart just to be contrary now.....stupid me for actually think the way I do.
It's more a way to ensure fairness. Were some people to look at it like you do and others to be biased, it would affect the vote as a whole.

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It's more a way to ensure fairness. Were some people to look at it like you do and others to be biased, it would affect the vote as a whole.
So your saying it's not fair to be honest? WTF?

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So your saying it's not fair to be honest? WTF?
It is nave to expect everyone to be unbiased.

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It is nave to expect everyone to be unbiased.
Oh silly me for being honest, I don't give a **** about what anybody else does....they want to be tools with no integrity, so be it. This is just a bunch of BS anyways....I'm done. Bunch of sanctimonious twats.

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It is nave to expect everyone to be unbiased.
I call it the way I see it every time.

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So it's status quo? Do what everybody else does? I looked at the teams as honestly, unbiased and as objectively as possible....and I'm getting **** for it?

No ****ing pleasing some folks I guess...

**** it, I feel just like upsetting the apple cart just to be contrary now.....stupid me for actually think the way I do.
Hey, it's cool if you don't want to vote yourself first.

It's accepted as the norm around here to 1. give some incentive to vote, and 2. let people vote themselves first without feeling guilty about it. But it's hardly mandatory.

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Oh silly me for being honest, I don't give a **** about what anybody else does....they want to be tools with no integrity, so be it. This is just a bunch of BS anyways....I'm done. Bunch of sanctimonious twats.
Jesus. I'm trying to explain the rationale to you. I don't really give a flying **** who you vote for, just explaining why it's the accepted practice.

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So it's status quo? Do what everybody else does? I looked at the teams as honestly, unbiased and as objectively as possible....and I'm getting **** for it?

No ****ing pleasing some folks I guess...

**** it, I feel just like upsetting the apple cart just to be contrary now.....stupid me for actually think the way I do.
Nobody gave you any **** for anything. I just pointed out how things are done here.

By telling everybody to vote their own team first, we are effectively rendering those votes useless. Basically, your votes for your own team don't count, which is the way it should be.

Would you feel better if we said you are not allowed to rank your own team? The result would be identical.

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