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04-04-2013, 10:45 AM
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Who were Gartner's linemates for the teams he was with. I am old enough to remember nearly his entire career, but I didn't watch hockey in the analytical fashion as I do today. I remember great skating, speed and good playmaking and scoring. What I don't remember are his linemates and also how was his 2-way game?

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04-04-2013, 04:09 PM
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Who were Gartner's linemates for the teams he was with. I am old enough to remember nearly his entire career, but I didn't watch hockey in the analytical fashion as I do today. I remember great skating, speed and good playmaking and scoring. What I don't remember are his linemates and also how was his 2-way game?
In Washington he was usually paired up with Dave Christian and Bengt Gustafsson. Not that cut and dry though as Bryan Murray used to bounce him around the lineup a lot.

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Gartner's a deserving member of the HOF I guess, was wonderfully consistent in the regular season but his reputation is certainly lessened by a lack of playoff success. Only made it passed the 2nd round once in his career, in '94 with Toronto, a team he joined at the deadline and then didn't really produce when it counted. Finished 5th in playoff scoring on the Leafs, behind Dmitri Mironov. When it came to springtime Gartner never really produced. 0.49 GPG in regular season dips to 0.35 in the playoffs. He's certainly not the only player to see his scoring go down in the playoffs, but for a HOFer there's very little greatness to be found in Gartner's game in the playoffs.

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Gartner's a deserving member of the HOF I guess, was wonderfully consistent in the regular season but his reputation is certainly lessened by a lack of playoff success. Only made it passed the 2nd round once in his career, in '94 with Toronto, a team he joined at the deadline and then didn't really produce when it counted. Finished 5th in playoff scoring on the Leafs, behind Dmitri Mironov. When it came to springtime Gartner never really produced. 0.49 GPG in regular season dips to 0.35 in the playoffs. He's certainly not the only player to see his scoring go down in the playoffs, but for a HOFer there's very little greatness to be found in Gartner's game in the playoffs.
Have to tell you, as a long time Caps fan that's been following the team since the early to mid '80s, it wasn't just Gartner: The whole team went into the crapper in the post-season pretty much every year.

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Mike Gartners famous... Look? Were all talking about him.

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Mike Gartners famous... Look? Were all talking about him.
My Caps jersey says Gartner 11 so I'm a walking billboard for him when I go out lol

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^^^ Excellent. Vintage jersey.

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^^^ Excellent. Vintage jersey.
That's why I got it (had to customize it to get the Gartner #11) My next jersey is a Habs Lafleur #10

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That's why I got it (had to customize it to get the Gartner #11) My next jersey is a Habs Lafleur #10
Would that make you a right winger?

Thought there were more LW (AO guys) in Washington these days.

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Would that make you a right winger?

Thought there were more LW (AO guys) in Washington these days.
When I started following the Caps Gartner was their big star Hence my old-school jersey.....

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Would that make you a right winger?
Thought there were more LW (AO guys)
in Washington these days.
Wrong coast Hv. That'd be the Bay Area & San Jose.
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700 + goals. A good compiler. Similar player in MLB would be recently retired Jim Thome.

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Stat compiler in an offensive era. One trick pony -- just scored goals and wasnt a good passer. Speed and shot, but so did a lot of guys back then.

He was known in the 80s...played on Canada Cups.

Notorious playoff underachiever. Never played in a SCF.

Still liked him a lot. Classy guy.

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Have to tell you, as a long time Caps fan that's been following the team since the early to mid '80s, it wasn't just Gartner: The whole team went into the crapper in the post-season pretty much every year.
but moreover, every team he was traded from in his 40+ goal prime did better in the playoffs almost immediately after he left.

he only made it out of the first round once in his six seasons with the caps. year after he left, they went to the conference finals for the first time in franchise history.

year after he leaves minnesota, they make it to the finals.

the year the rangers trade him to toronto, they win the cup.

the postseason optics are not good for him.

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but moreover, every team he was traded from in his 40+ goal prime did better in the playoffs almost immediately after he left.

he only made it out of the first round once in his six seasons with the caps. year after he left, they went to the conference finals.

year after he leaves minnesota, they make it to the finals.

the year the rangers trade him to toronto, they win the cup.

the postseason optics are not good for him.
Here's the thing, I can't speak for the North Stars but the Caps went to the conference finals that year behind the goaltending of Don Beaupre. That was something the Caps hadn't had previously: Playoff caliber goaltending in the post-season. Previous years the goalies slumped badly in the post-season.

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Is Marian Gaborik a good comparison?

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but moreover, every team he was traded from in his 40+ goal prime did better in the playoffs almost immediately after he left.

he only made it out of the first round once in his six seasons with the caps. year after he left, they went to the conference finals for the first time in franchise history.

year after he leaves minnesota, they make it to the finals.

the year the rangers trade him to toronto, they win the cup.

the postseason optics are not good for him.
As a North Stars fan I can tell you that had nothing to do with Gartner's absence. They actually dealt him to the Rangers prior to the 1990 playoffs - a playoffs in which the North Stars were 1st round exits (which also had nothing to do with Gartner's absence). That 1990-91 season they added and tweaked and just got hot at the right time. Gartner's stay there was so brief anyways.

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Because he never was a top star in the league. He was always a good player and a good goal scorer... but he was elite at staying healthy and being consistent.

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