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04-11-2013, 07:05 AM
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Yesterday we looked at Jonathan Drouin as our #1 overall prospect for this June’s NHL Entry Draft. Today we move on to his Halifax Mooseheads teammate and linemate, Nathan MacKinnon, and name him our pick at #2.

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04-11-2013, 10:53 PM
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How good is Nathan Mackinnon?

A forward has been taken first overall in the last 6 NHL drafts. May or may not happen this year, anyhow, how does Mackinnon compare to the last 6 first overall drafted forwards in your opinion? (P Kane, Stamkos, Tavares, Hall, Nuge, Yakupov)

Which guys, if any, is he better than in terms of potential? Which is he not as good as?

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04-11-2013, 11:01 PM
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I'd say he's 3rd... Im probably off with 4-7..

Tavares
Stamkos
MacKinnon
Hall
Kane
Nuge
Yakupov

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04-11-2013, 11:06 PM
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At the time of drafting, my personal preference would go:

Tavares
Stamkos
RNH
Hall/Kane/Mackinnon/Yakupov (pretty even, but in that order)

If you include Jones I'd probably have him at the top of the list.

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04-11-2013, 11:16 PM
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I would say 3rd

The list above seems fairly accurate... MacKinnon should become a very complete number 1C in the NHL.

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04-11-2013, 11:21 PM
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JT and Stam are ahead of course..

then...

MacKinnon
Kane
RNH
Hall
Yak

IMO. I'm from Halifax too though, lol.

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04-11-2013, 11:27 PM
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I think he's the top prospect in this draft.

I'd rank him between Kane and Nugent-Hopkins.

Tavares
Stamkos

Kane/MacKinnon

Nugent Hopkins
Hall
Yakupov

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04-11-2013, 11:43 PM
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This time last year...the best since Crosby.

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04-11-2013, 11:46 PM
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I think hell be good, but not a generational talent, I don't see a much better prospect than any of the guys drafted recently. Hell be a #1c forsure tho

As a player hes probably a touch above the level of Hall and Yakupov as rookies. In terms of the center postion id still take RNH/Tavares over him, just in terms of hockey iq, positional play. But with MacK having better speed/athleticsm

For comparisons sake I will say he maxes at the level of a Duchene/ Giroux, Dynamic, elite center but just below level of Stamkos, Crosby, Malkin


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04-11-2013, 11:52 PM
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I see him as a smaller all around type player, but likely doesn't have superstar potential. He doesn't have any facet of his game that is really gamebreaking, but he's more solid in every area.

Stammer
JT
Kane
Hall

Nuge/Yak/Mac (in order if they reach their full realistic potential)

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04-12-2013, 12:03 AM
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JT/Stamkos
Hall
Kane
RNH
I see Mackinnon here, about the level of a Seguin
Yakupov.

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04-12-2013, 01:39 AM
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I see him as a smaller all around type player, but likely doesn't have superstar potential. He doesn't have any facet of his game that is really gamebreaking, but he's more solid in every area.

Stammer
JT
Kane
Hall

Nuge/Yak/Mac (in order if they reach their full realistic potential)
Skating? He's a hell of a skater, would already be among the best in the NHL at that.

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04-12-2013, 02:15 AM
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i take tavares and stammer over him thats it though

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I see him as a smaller all around type player, but likely doesn't have superstar potential. He doesn't have any facet of his game that is really gamebreaking, but he's more solid in every area.
It's fun to see who hasn't watched MacKinnon lol

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It's fun to see who hasn't watched MacKinnon lol
My thoughts exactly

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At the time of drafting, my personal preference would go:

Tavares
Stamkos
RNH
Hall/Kane/Mackinnon/Yakupov (pretty even, but in that order)

If you include Jones I'd probably have him at the top of the list.
Wasn't RNH considered a pretty weak 1st overall pick at the time?

Kane had one crazy PPG in his draft year, not too far from Crosby's. I think he has to be at least 3rd on this list.

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04-12-2013, 09:19 AM
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Here's how I'd rank them:

1) Stamkos
2) Tavares
3) MacKinnon
4) Kane
5) RNH
6) Yakupov
7) Hall

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Watching their junior careers i actually have trouble seeing a lot of difference between Stamkos and Yakupov. I actually think Yakupov has a quicker release. Both players have a huge commitment to the game, which is awesome to see from young 1st overalls. (You'd be hard pressed to find 2 players that work harder off the ice than these two.)

For Hall, he can create the most offence out of any player on this list, the only player to ever win 2 memorial cup mpv's. Dare I make a mark messier comparison? Yeah, i went there. How Hall plays the game, i feel like it's impossible for him to have a slump unless he is sick or injured. You can't out skate him and you can't out work him.

Patrick Kane might have the best back hand in the history of the NHL. (in their cup run he scored a backhander (i think in OT or late in the 3rd but my memory is foggy) from just inside the blue line. The puck held velocity the whole way against the best goalie at the time, in luongo. I feel like Chicago is his team this year, not Toews. That's probably sacrilige to say that given Toews is a god around here, but Kane has just been awesome.

RNH has some of the best edge work i've seen. It's actually pretty incredible to watch. He plays like Crosby, but without the tree trunks for legs thus making him less effective down low. (one could argue that then makes him nothing like crosby.) He's got such great vision. I think we all enjoyed him in the world Juniors being involved in 90% of Canada's points after the 1st game of the tourney. (I think he got only around 50% of the possible points in the 1st game, after that if he wasn't on the ice Canada wasn't scoring.)

While I won't rank the players, the point i'm trying to make is, they all have skills that stand out above the rest, and all translate fairly equally to the game. Also, they can all play the game at full speed with the puck.

Stamkos/Yakupov/Tavares - Elite Snipers
RNH - Incredible vision, probably the best edges in the entire league
Hall - creates his own offense, a one man army
Kane - amazing puck handler, off the charts back-hand

While very different players, I think all of them will be within 10 points of each other every year for their careers. Team needs also come into play, if you have some play makers, snipers like Stamkos are very valuable to your team. If you have a well-rounded center like Toews then the offensive flair of Kane might be more valuable to your team.
The one player that stands out to me though is Hall because he doesn't need anyone else to complete his game.

I think people like Mckinnon because he's more like a cross between a RNH and a Hall. He's fairly broad, he forechecks hard, and has good vision. A lot of people like him because he's well rounded, some don't because he isn't a specialist in any one area.

Either way all these players are so fun to watch

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Watching their junior careers i actually have trouble seeing a lot of difference between Stamkos and Yakupov. I actually think Yakupov has a quicker release. Both players have a huge commitment to the game, which is awesome to see from young 1st overalls. (You'd be hard pressed to find 2 players that work harder off the ice than these two.)

For Hall, he can create the most offence out of any player on this list, the only player to ever win 2 memorial cup mpv's. Dare I make a mark messier comparison? Yeah, i went there. How Hall plays the game, i feel like it's impossible for him to have a slump unless he is sick or injured. You can't out skate him and you can't out work him.

Patrick Kane might have the best back hand in the history of the NHL. (in their cup run he scored a backhander (i think in OT or late in the 3rd but my memory is foggy) from just inside the blue line. The puck held velocity the whole way against the best goalie at the time, in luongo. I feel like Chicago is his team this year, not Toews. That's probably sacrilige to say that given Toews is a god around here, but Kane has just been awesome.

RNH has some of the best edge work i've seen. It's actually pretty incredible to watch. He plays like Crosby, but without the tree trunks for legs thus making him less effective down low. (one could argue that then makes him nothing like crosby.) He's got such great vision. I think we all enjoyed him in the world Juniors being involved in 90% of Canada's points after the 1st game of the tourney. (I think he got only around 50% of the possible points in the 1st game, after that if he wasn't on the ice Canada wasn't scoring.)

While I won't rank the players, the point i'm trying to make is, they all have skills that stand out above the rest, and all translate fairly equally to the game. Also, they can all play the game at full speed with the puck.

Stamkos/Yakupov/Tavares - Elite Snipers
RNH - Incredible vision, probably the best edges in the entire league
Hall - creates his own offense, a one man army
Kane - amazing puck handler, off the charts back-hand

While very different players, I think all of them will be within 10 points of each other every year for their careers. Team needs also come into play, if you have some play makers, snipers like Stamkos are very valuable to your team. If you have a well-rounded center like Toews then the offensive flair of Kane might be more valuable to your team.
The one player that stands out to me though is Hall because he doesn't need anyone else to complete his game.

I think people like Mckinnon because he's more like a cross between a RNH and a Hall. He's fairly broad, he forechecks hard, and has good vision. A lot of people like him because he's well rounded, some don't because he isn't a specialist in any one area.

Either way all these players are so fun to watch
Good analysis. Each one is special in their own way and each adds a different element to their team for sure

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1- Stamkos
2- Tavares
3- Hall
4- MaKinnon
5- RNH
6- Yakupov
7- Kane

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Wasn't RNH considered a pretty weak 1st overall pick at the time?

Kane had one crazy PPG in his draft year, not too far from Crosby's. I think he has to be at least 3rd on this list.
For sure. Stamkos had hype, but I think Hall's eclipses it.

MacKinnon was looking to be a Tavares-level prospect before Drouin stole the limelight.

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Great post PumpkinBomb! And bang on

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1. Stamkos
2. Tavares

3. Kane







4. RNH



5A. MacKinnon
5B. Hall














6. Yakupov

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