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View Poll Results: What to do if #1 overall
Pick Seth 24 25.00%
Pick Mac 60 62.50%
Pick Drouin 9 9.38%
Trade down within top 5 3 3.13%
Trade down outside top 5 0 0%
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04-12-2013, 11:38 AM
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04-12-2013, 12:27 PM
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Quick question guys, what does MacKinnon have over Drouin that makes him a better player? Haven't really seen much of either player except during the World Juniors and Drouin outperformed Mac in that tournament. Drouin also has had 30 more points than MacKinnon in the regular season in only 5 more games. Just want to know what MacKinnon brings to the table that makes him a better pick than Drouin

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Pick Seth Jones, a stabilizing force heading in the new direction. While MacKinnon is a solid building chip, I would say Jones has more upside in terms of maintaining a new Buffalo Sabres. Jones, MacKinnon then trade down?

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Quick question guys, what does MacKinnon have over Drouin that makes him a better player? Haven't really seen much of either player except during the World Juniors and Drouin outperformed Mac in that tournament. Drouin also has had 30 more points than MacKinnon in the regular season in only 5 more games. Just want to know what MacKinnon brings to the table that makes him a better pick than Drouin
He's a center.

On top of that, he is defensively responsible while still providing excellent offense. Our team has been devoid of top flight centers since 2007, and we have been mired in mediocrity. A winger, even Ovechkin in his prime, cannot carry a team the way a franchise center (or D-Man) can.

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I guess I'll be the first "take Drouin" guy
I'll join that club.

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I'll join that club.
Me too. We need scoring on the wings more than anything IMO.
Hodge and Grigs can fight over the #1C spot, and I think one of them will be great.

We went from being devoid of center prospects and now we have a glut, arguably the deepest in the league.

We need to get the wings stacked like that. Its the only weak part of our prospect pool.

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Quick question guys, what does MacKinnon have over Drouin that makes him a better player? Haven't really seen much of either player except during the World Juniors and Drouin outperformed Mac in that tournament. Drouin also has had 30 more points than MacKinnon in the regular season in only 5 more games. Just want to know what MacKinnon brings to the table that makes him a better pick than Drouin
At this point, dynamic/explosive skating and playing a complete 200' game are the things that I view as putting him a slice above Drouin.

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Me too. We need scoring on the wings more than anything IMO.
Hodge and Grigs can fight over the #1C spot, and I think one of them will be great.

We went from being devoid of center prospects and now we have a glut, arguably the deepest in the league.

We need to get the wings stacked like that. Its the only weak part of our prospect pool.
What's wrong with having a player who is more complete than either?

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Jones, for sure. Just look at Buffalo's defense from last night, or ANY night rather. 6-4, 206 lbs who uses the body well and is smart with the puck? Yes please. One of the main reasons why Team USA dominated at WJC. I'd take him and pair him with Myers.


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What's wrong with having a player who is more complete than either?
There's not, but I just think we should address the are of biggest need with a fantastic player in Drouin, and depending on who is picking behind us in this scenario (Avs, Flames) we may be able to drop to 2 or 3 and grab some value. in me opinionem.

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Agree with Chain. MacKinnon's complete game makes him my choice.

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Jones, for sure. Just look at Buffalo's defense from last night, or ANY night rather. 6-4, 206 lbs who uses the body well and is smart with the puck? Yes please. One of the main reasons why Team USA dominated at WJC. I'd take him and pair him with Myers.
Myers and a Myers clone together, that could be awesome or just awful.

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I'm not worried about a glut of center prospects. The excess can be great trade bait to solve some of our defensive woes.

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Me too. We need scoring on the wings more than anything IMO.
Hodge and Grigs can fight over the #1C spot, and I think one of them will be great.

We went from being devoid of center prospects and now we have a glut, arguably the deepest in the league.

We need to get the wings stacked like that. Its the only weak part of our prospect pool.
Centers can be turned into wings (either actually, ie: just moving someone on the roster) or via trade. MacKinnon's skill set is much more desirable to me than Drouin's. Elite skating, game-breaking offensive upside, 200' game: what's not to love?

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Jones for sure. MacKinnon is arguably the 3rd best forward in the draft, it would be ridiculous to take him no. 1.
And you could argue that Jones isn't one of the 3 best players.

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Jones, for sure. Just look at Buffalo's defense from last night, or ANY night rather. 6-4, 206 lbs who uses the body well and is smart with the puck? Yes please. One of the main reasons why Team USA dominated at WJC. I'd take him and pair him with Myers.
He actually doesn't really use his body that much.

He's a smaller Myers clone that is apparently going to grow to be 700 feet tall because his dad played in the NBA, despite not growing an inch since the age of 14.

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I'm not worried about a glut of center prospects. The excess can be great trade bait to solve some of our defensive woes.

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OR.... a natural centremen can also play wing - ie: the San Jose formula. Having too many pivots would be a fantastic problem to have IMO....

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Jones, for sure. Just look at Buffalo's defense from last night, or ANY night rather. 6-4, 206 lbs who uses the body well and is smart with the puck? Yes please. One of the main reasons why Team USA dominated at WJC. I'd take him and pair him with Myers.
Jones actually doesn't really use his body that much. He's more finesse than physical. Everyone is enamored by his potential but he could very well end up like E. Johnson. And that's not a terrible thing, as E. Johnson is a good player, just not really #1 overall good.

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Just saying, I don't think I would complain about any of the big three...

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OR.... a natural centremen can also play wing - ie: the San Jose formula. Having too many pivots would be a fantastic problem to have IMO....
Have Darcy go into reverse Darcy mode and have an entire foreward corps of centers with zero natural wingers?

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Have Darcy go into reverse Darcy mode and have an entire foreward corps of centers with zero natural wingers?
In all fairness, it's easier to move to wing than the other way around.

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In all fairness, it's easier to move to wing than the other way around.
I'll be completely honest with you and say that if our forward corps of the future looked something along the lines of:

Ennis - Hodgeson - Armia
Larrson - Grigorenko - Armia
Ott - Mackinnon - Foligno
Flynn - Girgensons - Adam

I wouldn't complain too badly.

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I'll be completely honest with you and say that if our forward corps of the future looked something along the lines of:

Ennis - Hodgeson - Armia
Larrson - Grigorenko - Armia
Ott - Mackinnon - Foligno
Flynn - Girgensons - Adam

I wouldn't complain too badly.
Let's clone Mackinnon if we're cloning players.

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Let's clone Mackinnon if we're cloning players.


Yeah, I'd rather clone MacKinnon than Armia.

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And you could argue that Jones isn't one of the 3 best players.
Not with a straight face.

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