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WC Division 1B in Donetsk

Tourney opens today in Donetsk, Ukraine is currently beating Romania 6-0 after the 2nd period. Here's the final roster that was submitted prior to today's action.






And here's the lineup for the game today against Romania


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Poor roster, but luckily even poorer opponents.

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Missing Kasyanchuk, Razin, Poni, Donika and Fedotenko really makes this roster look weak. Not to mention Klimentyev retiring and Gongalsky not yet representing the NT yet.

Hopefully they can advance and put together a better roster next year.

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Great to see Zakharov and Petrangovsky make it. Although I think Zakharov was scratched today haha. Petrangovsky has an assist, so it's great to see the juniors get involved!

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Missing Kasyanchuk, Razin, Poni, Donika and Fedotenko really makes this roster look weak. Not to mention Klimentyev retiring and Gongalsky not yet representing the NT yet.

Hopefully they can advance and put together a better roster next year.
Doesn't help that the lockout made the season finish at the end of April either. Devils and Flyers look to both be out of the hunt, so Poni and Fedotenko may have been available. Really need to be promoted this year and make do with what they have, look towards next year as you said.

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Still near future looks bleak. Unless they start to naturalize Russians elite tier is a pipe dream.

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It's a final, 8-1 win over Romania to open up the tourney. Estonia tomorrow at 1pm EST, I'll be watching in class haha

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Still near future looks bleak. Unless they start to naturalize Russians elite tier is a pipe dream.
At the time - yes, but with all the money they are pouring into hockey now they'll get there at some point. Obviously it may take 20 years but still.

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At the time - yes, but with all the money they are pouring into hockey now they'll get there at some point. Obviously it may take 20 years but still.
That's why said "near future". And even then, the only place where the money is poured in is Donetsk. Not much investment elsewhere...

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At the time - yes, but with all the money they are pouring into hockey now they'll get there at some point. Obviously it may take 20 years but still.
They're improving already. Guys like Toryanik, Padakin, Kvitchenko, Zakharov, Martyshko and Skripets will be big for the future of Ukrainian hockey. If Gaiduchenko would agree to represent them internationally they'd be in much better shape.

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That's why said "near future". And even then, the only place where the money is poured in is Donetsk. Not much investment elsewhere...
Berkut Kiev has a new hockey school and seems to have become the premier franchise in Kiev. They iced a good PHL team with quite a few KHL caliber players.

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They're improving already. Guys like Toryanik, Padakin, Kvitchenko, Zakharov, Martyshko and Skripets will be big for the future of Ukrainian hockey.
No they are not improving, but, yes, players you listed will be a big part of a pretty bleak immediate future.

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Berkut Kiev has a new hockey school and seems to have become the premier franchise in Kiev. They iced a good PHL team with quite a few KHL caliber players.
And almost went bust mid-season.

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Sorry I'm kind of new here, do you have a personal vendetta against Ukraine or something?

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No they are not improving, but, yes, players you listed will be a big part of a pretty bleak immediate future.



And almost went bust mid-season.
I agree the future isn't extremely appealing right now, but there has been a lot of improvement in their hockey as of late. Adding a MHL team or two is the next thing they should be looking at so that they can retain their top junior talent.

Berkut has their financial issues and I think they overspent on contracts this past season. Guys like Toryanik, Mikhnov and Gongalsky could all end up in the KHL next season. Seeing young guys like Toryanik and Kvitchenko getting playing time in the KHL is a step in the right direction for Ukrainian hockey. As they continue to have more players playing top tier hockey it can only benefit the NT.

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Attendance for today's game was 3824, just 300 short of a sellout.

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Sorry I'm kind of new here, do you have a personal vendetta against Ukraine or something?
Yeah, you certainly are new here.

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I agree the future isn't extremely appealing right now, but there has been a lot of improvement in their hockey as of late. Adding a MHL team or two is the next thing they should be looking at so that they can retain their top junior talent.

Berkut has their financial issues and I think they overspent on contracts this past season. Guys like Toryanik, Mikhnov and Gongalsky could all end up in the KHL next season. Seeing young guys like Toryanik and Kvitchenko getting playing time in the KHL is a step in the right direction for Ukrainian hockey. As they continue to have more players playing top tier hockey it can only benefit the NT.
There's not much new I can say, I'm afraid. I follow Ukrainian hockey too much to not see that this revival is not happening properly and that you see positives where there are none.

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Great to see Zakharov and Petrangovsky make it. Although I think Zakharov was scratched today haha. Petrangovsky has an assist, so it's great to see the juniors get involved!
Is he moving to Donbass in MHL next season? Do you have any info? Zakharov is under contract with Donbass, so he is going to play MHL for them.

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Is he moving to Donbass in MHL next season? Do you have any info? Zakharov is under contract with Donbass, so he is going to play MHL for them.
Unfortunately haven't seen anything about that. Would be great if he does though!

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Yeah, you certainly are new here.



There's not much new I can say, I'm afraid. I follow Ukrainian hockey too much to not see that this revival is not happening properly and that you see positives where there are none.
I`m sorry ozo,but you must be one of the most pessimistic posters around this part of the board

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Another 8-1 win over Estonia, back on top of the standings.

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Very insightful article including some great quotes from Khrystych.

http://www.iihf.com/home-of-hockey/n...ash=fb0f2294dd

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Geez that was way too close. Tymchenko finally wins it in OT over the Dutch! Props to the Netherlands goalie though, 40 plus saves and only 2 goals allowed.

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Ukraine should easily beat Poland and advance back to the division they belong in. This team would be in much better shape if the country could retain its best players, instead of losing them to Russia. Imagine Zherdev, Babchuk, Ponikarovsky, Fedotenko, Gaiduchenko, Vishnevsky and Tverdovsky all represented Ukraine (or at least on a regular basis)? Not to mention the amount of young players who have opted for Russian citizenship instead. This team could be competitive in the 1-A division with teams like Kazakhstan, Italy and Hungary, if not better than them.

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3 unanswered goals and Ukraine goes up 3-2 after the 2nd! Holy jumpin' Darren Pang!

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Wooo! Back up where they belong!

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