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04-14-2013, 05:44 PM
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Comrie shouldgo in the late 2nd/early 3rd round. Believe his stock isn't as high as it once was.
Than I'd rather pick a foward and Comrie later than"sacrifice" my 1st for Fucale

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Dauphin could easily be a 1st.
No way should he go that high.

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04-14-2013, 08:12 PM
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No way should he go that high.
Maybe not but he's stepped it up and was in the spotlight during the 2nd half. I would like him with an early 2nd but ofcourse it's all a big mystery how the 2nd half of the 1st round goes.

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04-14-2013, 08:18 PM
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Think Montreal will do a gimmic and have Galchenyuk call our 1st round pick ?

I ****ing hope not.

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Think Montreal will do a gimmic and have Galchenyuk call our 1st round pick ?

I ****ing hope not.
We should troll New Jersey fans and have Gionta call our first pick.

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We had a 7th last year
In fact, no.

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Maybe not but he's stepped it up and was in the spotlight during the 2nd half. I would like him with an early 2nd but ofcourse it's all a big mystery how the 2nd half of the 1st round goes.
He has good offensive instincts but average size and speed. I wouldn't touch him before our 2nd rounder or one of our 3rds. Not even one of the top 7-8 Q guys...MacKinnon Drouin Fucale Erne Gauthier Morin Zykov Carrier Sorensen plus maybe Roy and Poirier.

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I haven't seen most of these prospects, but with what I've read about Dauphin, he seems like a safe pick but not somebody with a lot of potential. Is that accurate?

If it is, I'd be disappointed if we pick him in the first round. I'd hope for someone with a bigger upside.

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04-14-2013, 11:01 PM
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Bernier was picked 16th overall Grant, might not be the best example
It's not where they were drafted that's relevant, but how they turned out. Bernier is not a top 6 NHL forward..not even a top 9. Mantha is a risky pick in the top 30, let alone the top 20.

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04-15-2013, 01:37 AM
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He has good offensive instincts but average size and speed. I wouldn't touch him before our 2nd rounder or one of our 3rds. Not even one of the top 7-8 Q guys...MacKinnon Drouin Fucale Erne Gauthier Morin Zykov Carrier Sorensen plus maybe Roy and Poirier.
I like him better than the last 2 and Mantha before him.

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04-15-2013, 02:13 AM
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Think Montreal will do a gimmic and have Galchenyuk call our 1st round pick ?

I ****ing hope not.
Should make the pick in French, just because we can.

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04-15-2013, 05:16 AM
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I would trade my first born + DD + 1st + 2nd NSH + 2nd CGY + Ellis for a chance at picking Lindholm if he falls out of the top 5/6. Seems as if he's been falling in people's rankings, anyone know why?

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I would trade my first born + DD + 1st + 2nd NSH + 2nd CGY + Ellis for a chance at picking Lindholm if he falls out of the top 5/6. Seems as if he's been falling in people's rankings, anyone know why?
I don't think anyone does that, if you wanna move into the top 5 it's gonna cost plekanec +1st and 2nd

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Don't look now but sportsclubstats.com is showing that it is most likely that Calgary picks 3rd and Nashville picks 4th.

3 picks all at the end of the first/beginning of the second! My mouth is watering...

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I like him better than the last 2 and Mantha before him.
Yeah forgot Mantha. The last 2 will likely go 35-50 overall.

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I don't think anyone does that, if you wanna move into the top 5 it's gonna cost plekanec +1st and 2nd
Do you know how much a first born is worth? I'm more speculating if he falls to 7th/8th and the price becomes more reasonable.

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Don't look now but sportsclubstats.com is showing that it is most likely that Calgary picks 3rd and Nashville picks 4th.

3 picks all at the end of the first/beginning of the second! My mouth is watering...
From 3rd to 9th right now is only separated by 4 points, then Buffalo in 10th to San Jose at 22nd only 7 points...crazy.

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04-15-2013, 06:03 AM
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Do you know how much a first born is worth? I'm more speculating if he falls to 7th/8th and the price becomes more reasonable.
Elias lindholm is putting up better stats than nicklas backstrom, regardless of whether or not he's played better than him in his draft year, those stats are god damn impressive.

And even if its for 7/8 DD has no value for a team in that position and Ellis is still a project whose gonna take at least another 3 years in Hamilton and will probably become depth defenseman/tweener. No ones gonna trade you a bluechip prospect with potential to be a star for our scrap.

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04-15-2013, 06:11 AM
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I don't think we'll go the franco route in the 1st round. But probably wish we'll fill that "obligation" in the 2nd. I think that whole lot of favorites will be gone before our pick. Which makes one of my target maybe available. Yes....I'm biased....GoBlue......JT Compher. Not big....but just a very smart player with a whole lot of talent. And he goes to Michigan next year. Not the only candidate...but a guy to consider even if he doesn't fill the "let's get bigger" concept.

Another one is the guy that I think Grant talked about. Ian McCoshen. Just a whole lot of qualites in that package that should evidently turned him into a NHL player....but with the role to determined. An 95' August born with those numbers in the USHL? It has to be impressive...and maybe a big time riser that nobody sees comes next June. The kid is in his 3rd year in the USHL...which means he started his USHL career at....15 years old. He will have to be considered, no matter how stacked we are on D.


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04-15-2013, 06:22 AM
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Elias lindholm is putting up better stats than nicklas backstrom, regardless of whether or not he's played better than him in his draft year, those stats are god damn impressive.

And even if its for 7/8 DD has no value for a team in that position and Ellis is still a project whose gonna take at least another 3 years in Hamilton and will probably become depth defenseman/tweener. No ones gonna trade you a bluechip prospect with potential to be a star for our scrap.
Yeah, it's not the best proposal out there but still may be possible. There have been many posters here claiming 1st + 2nd moves you up roughly 5 spots. IF the Habs could get trading partners it's totally possible to move up in the draft slowly. Unlikely though. I think a team like NYI would be interested in moving their pick, their prospect pool is full and they really need some help in terms of top-9 guys or roster players. It depends on who the trading partner is but, I think to jump from 27th-6th/7th could cost...

1st + NSH 2nd + CGY 2nd + MTL 3rd + DD/Bourque/Diaz + Kristo

I understand the quantity vs quality argument but in the draft quantity is quality. I think it's highly unlikely for any of this to happen.

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04-15-2013, 06:28 AM
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I don't think we'll go the franco route in the 1st round. But probably wish we'll fill that "obligation" in the 2nd. I think that whole lot of favorites will be gone before our pick. Which makes one of my target maybe available. Yes....I'm biased....GoBlue......JT Compher. Not big....but just a very smart player with a whole lot of talent. And he goes to Michigan next year. Not the only candidate...but a guy to consider even if he doesn't fill the "let's get bigger" concept.

Another one is the guy that I think Grant talked about. Ian McCoshen. Just a whole lot of qualites in that package that should evidently turned him into a NHL player....but with the role to determined. An 95' August born with those numbers in the USHL? It has to be impressive...and maybe a big time riser that nobody sees comes next June. The kid is in his 3rd year in the USHL...which means he started his USHL career at....15 years old. He will have to be considered, no matter how stacked we are on D.
To be honest, I think that culturally biased picking might even make it's way into the 1st round. When guys like Gauthier, Mantha and Fucale are all reasonable picks to move up for from the QMJHL, it may very well happen. It's fine if they aren't being picked solely on the fact that they're French-Canadian.

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It's not where they were drafted that's relevant, but how they turned out. Bernier is not a top 6 NHL forward..not even a top 9. Mantha is a risky pick in the top 30, let alone the top 20.
Even though I disagree for Mantha, I understand what you mean, I was just being silly

Just found the example odd, since Bernier did go where you wouldn't pick Mantha

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I don't think we'll go the franco route in the 1st round. But probably wish we'll fill that "obligation" in the 2nd. I think that whole lot of favorites will be gone before our pick. Which makes one of my target maybe available. Yes....I'm biased....GoBlue......JT Compher. Not big....but just a very smart player with a whole lot of talent. And he goes to Michigan next year. Not the only candidate...but a guy to consider even if he doesn't fill the "let's get bigger" concept.

Another one is the guy that I think Grant talked about. Ian McCoshen. Just a whole lot of qualites in that package that should evidently turned him into a NHL player....but with the role to determined. An 95' August born with those numbers in the USHL? It has to be impressive...and maybe a big time riser that nobody sees comes next June. The kid is in his 3rd year in the USHL...which means he started his USHL career at....15 years old. He will have to be considered, no matter how stacked we are on D.
I knew the name Ian McCoshen but never looked him up until now. Wow, damn impressive stats and size. I wonder how he skates.

Definitely someone Timmins would look at. Big frame, high upside, USHL, going to a very good program.

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I don't think we'll go the franco route in the 1st round. But probably wish we'll fill that "obligation" in the 2nd. I think that whole lot of favorites will be gone before our pick. Which makes one of my target maybe available. Yes....I'm biased....GoBlue......JT Compher. Not big....but just a very smart player with a whole lot of talent. And he goes to Michigan next year. Not the only candidate...but a guy to consider even if he doesn't fill the "let's get bigger" concept.

Another one is the guy that I think Grant talked about. Ian McCoshen. Just a whole lot of qualites in that package that should evidently turned him into a NHL player....but with the role to determined. An 95' August born with those numbers in the USHL? It has to be impressive...and maybe a big time riser that nobody sees comes next June. The kid is in his 3rd year in the USHL...which means he started his USHL career at....15 years old. He will have to be considered, no matter how stacked we are on D.
First I heard of him...has ISS been ranking him high?

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I knew the name Ian McCoshen but never looked him up until now. Wow, damn impressive stats and size. I wonder how he skates.

Definitely someone Timmins would look at. Big frame, high upside, USHL, going to a very good program.
Agreed. McCoshen would not be a bad addition to our prospect pool.

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