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04-15-2013, 08:58 AM
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I would argue that joseph had the better leaf teams in front of him.

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04-15-2013, 09:08 AM
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Potvin gets the nod alone for kicking the crap out of Ron Hextall.

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04-15-2013, 09:24 AM
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I loved the Fletcher -- Burns -- Gilmour Era in Toronto as those 1993 & 1994 teams had a real serious chance of winning it all.

Felix the Cat was the netminder on record, and did an outstanding job backing the Leafs to victory back then so he gets my vote.

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04-15-2013, 09:28 AM
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If I heard Quinn correctly in the Strategy Room segment of the Sportsnet Trade Deadline show, he had a deal worked out with Cujo and then ownership put the kibosh on it and so Cujo went to Detroit.

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04-15-2013, 09:30 AM
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Easily Joseph. I didn't think the Cat was very good although I was very young back then and it may have just been the era he played in. I liked him as an individual though.

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04-15-2013, 09:31 AM
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I would argue that joseph had the better leaf teams in front of him.
Joseph had a pathetic D in front of him and had to bail the team out on a regular basis.

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04-15-2013, 09:39 AM
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Loved felix in the early 90's but cujo could just steal games by himself!!

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04-15-2013, 09:45 AM
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when Cujo peaked with the leafs he also played in the era with the Gigantic Goalie Equipment, before the nhl regulated the equipment. Potvin played in a higher scoring era, and his equipment was much inferior, but potvin did play an unorthodox style playing deep in his net relying on his reflexes and athleticism more which is probably not the best method for a goalie in the NHL. But it worked for a little while!

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04-15-2013, 09:54 AM
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Potvin. Would have won the cup if not for Fraser. Cujo ditched a decent team to try and win a cup with the Wings. Only to come back to the Leafs with his head in shame.
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Damn right. I still have my unworn Felix the Cat mask style hat in my closet, mint condition.
Wow ignorance is bliss. Pat Quinn admitted the Leafs choose not to sign Cujo. It had nothing to do with him not wanting to stay.

As for Potvin VS Cujo. It's Cujo easy Potvin had a great defence in front of him during his good years. Cuju was the only reason they made the playoffs the first couple of years he was here. Cujo wins against Belfour as well. Cujo took them to the semi finals twice. Eddie won one series while he was here.

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Joseph had a pathetic D in front of him and had to bail the team out on a regular basis.
A major difference was Pat Quinn played OFFENSE while Pat Burns stressed DEFENSE.

"Defense wins Championships"

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04-15-2013, 10:43 AM
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A major difference was Pat Quinn played OFFENSE while Pat Burns stressed DEFENSE.

"Defense wins Championships"
Neither Team won a Championship.

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i think both Cujo and Potvin had a decent defense in front of them during those peak years. If we didnt have wayne gretzky in the conf finals we would of won the cup that year.

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head to head Felix beat Cujo, and Cujo was a world class game 7 choker!!

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Neither Team won a Championship.
One team under Potvin was a contender the other under Cujo was a pretender in the pursuit of the Cup.

One team had a serious chance of winning it all thanks to their goalie in part.

Teams that try to simply outscore their mistakes and leave their teams goalies as sitting ducks seldom if ever succeed unless you're the Oilers of the 1980's.

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04-15-2013, 10:59 AM
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While I cannot compare the two because I was too young to know Potvin, Cujo's style and compete were always so much fun too watch. He and Mats were my two favourite Leafs growing up (and Domi too!).

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I loved those 93/94 Leaf teams, we were a starved fan base at the time and that team made life as a leaf fan great again.....plus I was a goalie then and had the "Potvin" Koho's from the 94 run...Think he had Heaton pads in 93.

so for me, it's Potvin.

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04-15-2013, 11:05 AM
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IMO, if Belfour was here in '99 the Leafs win the Cup not the Stars.

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04-15-2013, 11:10 AM
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Potvin.

I prefer him and his numbers.

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04-15-2013, 11:13 AM
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IMO, if Belfour was here in '99 the Leafs win the Cup not the Stars.
This. Only one out of the three being compared has a ring, and it's not Potvin or Cujo.

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IMO, if Belfour was here in '99 the Leafs win the Cup not the Stars.
You mean as long as all the other good fortune good fortune followed the Leafs around and in each round of the playoffs their opponent was missing their best player due to injury in the 1999 playoff run.

Round 1 Philly without Lindros
Round 2 Pens without Jagr
Round 3 Sabres without Hasek

So replacing Cujo with a better goalie in Belfour might have been able to beat Rollie Melanson and Sabres back then all other things remaining the same, and Cinderella didn't turn into a pumpkin ride at midnight.

Leafs didn't need a different goalie than Potvin in the 1990's as he was outstanding Leafs winning many games 2-1 and 1-0. They needed a different Referee in Kerry Fraser as if he would have done his job and kicked Gretzky out of the game for high sticking Gilmour in the face and drawing blood, then Wayne wouldn't have been around to score the GWG shortly after.

In the 1994 playoffs in Round 1 verses Chicago, Potvin record 3 shutouts in the 6 game series with Leafs winning all 3 games 1-0. It doesn't get much better goaltending than that to give your team a chance to win. Recent Cup winners in Thomas (Boston) & Quick (LA) would have been proud of Potvin's performance back then.


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04-15-2013, 11:28 AM
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If I was having to choose between the two....I say the difference is under pressure I would choose Potvin....

Potvin was very quick....he played very deep in his net and relied on his natural athletic ability, had he challenged the shooters more he may have been unbeatable.

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04-15-2013, 12:20 PM
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Potvin was outstanding breaking into the league and was actually quite strong behind some dreadful defenses a bit later on too.

I really believe that he got a bit shell shocked getting peppered nightly in the mid-90s. He doesn't get enough credit for those seasons imo.

That being said -- At their best I think it is quite close. They were both awesome in 93 facing one another.

Over their careers it is pretty easily Cujo. He took some underdog teams to places they had no business being whatsoever.

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In the 1994 playoffs in Round 1 verses Chicago, Potvin record 3 shutouts in the 6 game series with Leafs winning all 3 games 1-0. It doesn't get much better goaltending than that to give your team a chance to win. Recent Cup winners in Thomas (Boston) & Quick (LA) would have been proud of Potvin's performance back then.
I remember that series.. Potvin was incredible.

Wasn't that the one where he did that diving glove save across the net too?

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04-15-2013, 12:25 PM
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Potvin I think is a level above CuJo, Cujo was just a lot more fun to watch.

When at their best Cujo was better, consistently though, The Cat.

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Cujo. We could have went all the way in 03 and 04 if he stayed.
Eddie Belfour was better than Cujo both those years, that isn't why we didn't win. It was never giving Sundin a legit winger, always bringing in had beens and could of beens

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