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04-15-2013, 04:24 PM
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I can understand the desire to retain Hall, RNH and Yakupov. However, I would try and move Eberle or Gagner for a legit defenseman.
Gagner is not returning any decent Defense man until he proves he can play 82 games at a high pace

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04-15-2013, 04:26 PM
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Gagner and Hemsky get traded before Eberle. So we will start with that.
Gagner + Hemsky is the new Raymond + Ballard

Aside from pointing out this years HF trade boards curb, Edmonton's problem is depth so I don't see why they'd trade what little depth they have (in the sense that Gagner + Hemsky are clearly not core pieces). Looking at the impact Prust had in Montreal this year, I think Edmonton desperately needs some good role players. If they're smart, they could add that sort of depth through free agency without trading away anything.

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04-15-2013, 04:27 PM
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They should look to get Yandle.
Yandle ? I would not offer up much . He has the easiest start for the dogs d men . He would be worth getting if we were more defensively sound and want O from the back end

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04-15-2013, 04:33 PM
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EDM 1st rounder 2013
for
Andrei Markov
MTL 1st rounder 2013
MTL 2nd rounder 2013


I would target Zach Fucale with the late first rounder and play Markov on the 1st PP unit. Having a shot at Drouin/Shinkaruk/Monahan/Gauthier would probably help convince Bergevin. As for MacT, I don't think he wants another top forward and im not really high on drafting d-man with top 10 picks.
As a Habs fan, I would have to think long and hard about that. Markov has been with the team his entire career, still brings an enormous amount to the team. Inserting Diaz in instead of Markov might help. Top 4 defenceman, solid defensively and could play on your 1st PP unit.

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04-15-2013, 04:38 PM
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Eberle has been playing hurt for most of the Yeat and the same for RNH. I can't think of a single team that would be willing to give up a big #1 Centre for RNH.
There won't be any big shake ups on the Oilers this summer. Players like Hall, RNH, Eberle, Yakupov, Schultz or even Paajarvi rarely get traded at this stage of their careers. Gagner is having a career year and unless his contract becomes a huge issue he won't be traded as well.
The way I see it
Hall-RNH-Yakupov
Paajarvi-Gagner-Eberle
?????-Horcoff-?????
Smyth-?????-Brown

?????-Smid
Petry-J.Schultz
N.Schultz-Fistric

Dubnyk-?????

3rd LW options are guys like Cleary, MacArthur
3rd RW options are guys like Jones or Langenbrunner(if he doesn't retire)
Lots of options for a 4th line centre.

For defense I think the Oilers will go the offer sheet route again. The only one that might be safe is McDonough because of Sather.
Lots of good back up goalies out there as well.

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04-15-2013, 05:04 PM
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Gagner is not returning any decent Defense man until he proves he can play 82 games at a high pace
You're not going to get a consistent ppg centre for a "Decent" defenseman either

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One defenseman that the Oilers should also look at is Kevin Shattenkirk.

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04-15-2013, 05:23 PM
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Eberle has been playing hurt for most of the Yeat and the same for RNH. I can't think of a single team that would be willing to give up a big #1 Centre for RNH.
There won't be any big shake ups on the Oilers this summer. Players like Hall, RNH, Eberle, Yakupov, Schultz or even Paajarvi rarely get traded at this stage of their careers. Gagner is having a career year and unless his contract becomes a huge issue he won't be traded as well.
The way I see it
Hall-RNH-Yakupov
Paajarvi-Gagner-Eberle
?????-Horcoff-?????
Smyth-?????-Brown

?????-Smid
Petry-J.Schultz
N.Schultz-Fistric

Dubnyk-?????

3rd LW options are guys like Cleary, MacArthur
3rd RW options are guys like Jones or Langenbrunner(if he doesn't retire)
Lots of options for a 4th line centre.

For defense I think the Oilers will go the offer sheet route again. The only one that might be safe is McDonough because of Sather.
Lots of good back up goalies out there as well.
So unless they land that dman through an offer sheet, which isn't guaranteed, it will pretty much be the same team.

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04-15-2013, 05:30 PM
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If MacT trades any of the big 5 without getting a better fit star back, I'm probably done with this team.

I think it's far more likely that guys like Hemsky, Gagner or Paajarvi could be out.

Remember, it's only on HF that young stars are required in every deal. The real NHL doesn't work that way.
I am with you! If Yak is traded for a Shattenkirk type or a d man with potential - I am packing it in and focusing on Arsenal and the Irish (CFB).

I really wish trade proposals threads were enjoyable to read on this board.....instead of ending in a "homer" war.....

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04-15-2013, 05:31 PM
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So unless they land that dman through an offer sheet, which isn't guaranteed, it will pretty much be the same team.
Yes that is what he getting at . It will not be the case . Like Mac T or hate him . He has always been a man of his word and he will make changes , even if the are high risk moves

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04-15-2013, 05:33 PM
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This would be a very savvy move. You probably could have gotten a #1 this past summer, too bad.
Don't think he will be moved. Not right now anyways. It wouldn't be smart and I think he'll have a better season next year.

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04-15-2013, 05:34 PM
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I think when Mac talks about taking risks, he means more along the lines of Weiss / Luongo and not trading away one of their 5 young stars.

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Pacciorrety + Gorges for Yak

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04-15-2013, 05:38 PM
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I think when Mac talks about taking risks, he means more along the lines of Weiss / Luongo and not trading away one of their 5 young stars.
he also elaborated on that later indicating that he's not going to dither on players waiting to see if they improve or not... so to me that says if he has a chance to trade for example a prospect like paajarvi for someone who can help he'll pull the trigger and do it even if Paajarvi has the potential to be better in the long run than the guy he's getting back.

He pretty clearly said the top young guns are the guys he wants to build around and it'd take a hell of a return to part with one of them, but everything else is on the table if it helps the team right now.

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Eberle for Myers.

Not a fan of either team, but both have had great success, signed to big contracts, and are now struggling a bit.
No way Buffalo would do it. We have no defensive depth and no prospects with upside even close to Myers'. Would much much much rather see what Myers can do under a new coach than sell low on him for a winger.

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04-15-2013, 05:43 PM
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at the draft

to fla
gags
pelss
n schultz
rajala or acrobello
plante or peckham

to edm
bjugstad
petrovic
gubranson

to stl
jones

to edm
grachev
2nd 2013

to phx
belanger
lander
marincin


to edm
samulesson
ruuttu

to t.o
bulin
3rd

to edm
colborne

to car
hemsky
whitney

to edm
1st 2013
brody sutter

to nyi
pitlick
hamilton
2nd 2014

to edm
nino

to pits
dubs
roy

to edm
vokoun


next years lines
hall rnh eb
mps bjugstad yak
nino barkov ????
petrell colborne brown

j schultz klefbom
grubranson petry
smid fistric

vokoun
???


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04-15-2013, 05:45 PM
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No way Buffalo would do it. We have no defensive depth and no prospects with upside even close to Myers'. Would much much much rather see what Myers can do under a new coach than sell low on him for a winger.
Eberle is not struggling . He been playing with broken a finger . If you played any hockey you know how much this would effect your shooting .

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04-15-2013, 05:46 PM
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All MacTavish needs to do is fill his bottom six with veteran, proven role players, and add a veteran D-man or two to give the team experience.
That's not at all what he has to do

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04-15-2013, 05:49 PM
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Addition by subtraction would be moving Hemsky for pucks and adding Clarkson or Horton for the same money in free agency.

It would be nice if Ryan Malone were willing to come to Etown as well. We need that skilled and competitive second line LW and a total reconstruction of the defense and bottom Six forwards.

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04-15-2013, 05:50 PM
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at the draft


to nyi
pitlick
hamilton
2nd 2014

to edm
nino
Snow politely declines,explaining that he's not moving Nino for Edmonton's 2nd tier prospects.

Counter proposal:

To Edmonton-
Finley
Kabanov
2nd 2014

To NYI-
Klefbom

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04-15-2013, 05:51 PM
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Gardiner +1st for RNH a man can dream

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04-15-2013, 05:54 PM
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at the draft

to fla
gags
pelss
rajala or acrobello
plante or peckham

to edm
bjugstad
petrovic

to stl
jones

to edm
grachev
2nd 2013

to phx
belanger
lander
marincin


to edm
samulesson
ruuttu


to t.o.
bulin
roy

to edm
colborne

to car
hemsky
whitney

to edm
1st 2013
brody sutter

to nyi
pitlick
hamilton
2nd 2014

to edm
nino

to anh
mps

to edm
gibson
Bulin is an Ufa and is always injured . He might have got something small at the dead line for insurance that time has come and gone . He will soon be gone . his time in Edmonton was a bad joke . 1 good to great game every once in a while . Value ...nothing
Jones is a Ufa.... value nothing
Whitney is an Ufa so tell me why teams are going to trade for them ?
The other one that stands out is The NYI . They laugh at this . 2 player that may not even make the NHL for a player who is likely to become a stud . This is what give Oilers fan a bad rap on HF . Our scrap for other teams good players . Please reframe from posting , it can only help us . Can not comment on a few of these as i do not know enough about the other teams players , but from what i can tell they are all pretty one sided in our favour . Gm,s don't work that way . They are not paid to help our Oilers . As Mac T stated the want to beat our heads in . NHL is eat or be eaten . I am tired of being eaten


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None of the big 10 will be traded, so Eberle, Gagner, Paajarvi, Schultz, Petry, Smid, Hall, RNH, Klefbom and Yakupov are off the table.

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Eberle is not struggling . He been playing with broken a finger . If you played any hockey you know how much this would effect your shooting .
Cool. You'll notice I said absolutely nothing about Eberle, let alone anything negative. Your post does absolutely nothing to persuade me to want to sell low on Buffalo's only high-potential defenseman. I'd still much rather see what Myers could do under a new coach* than what Eberle could do without a broken finger.

*Note: Rolston, up until his season-ending injury, had him logging ~25 minutes a night, facing top QoC, and playing considerably better.

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