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04-15-2013, 09:12 PM
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If Horcoff, Smyth, Belanger and Dubnyk are all replaced this summer then Mac T will be the greatest Oiler GM since Sather.

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What kind of return/players do Oiler fans expect for Hemsky? By the sounds of it, he seems like the most likely player to be traded.

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04-15-2013, 09:31 PM
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What kind of return/players do Oiler fans expect for Hemsky? By the sounds of it, he seems like the most likely player to be traded.
Probably a skill for grit trade. Hemsky for a very good 3rd liner is probably what will happen.

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04-15-2013, 09:36 PM
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If Horcoff, Smyth, Belanger and Dubnyk are all replaced this summer then Mac T will be the greatest Oiler GM since Sather.
I see what you did there.

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He won't trade any of the young kids unless it's worth it. I have a feeling he's going to be busy though. Gagner could potentially be traded I think, which wouldn't have happened under Tambo.
I don't see much value in dealing the young core up front, even Gagner unless of course a solid Dman is on the way to Edmonton. Hemsky makes a lot of sense

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At this point, I think any player, prospect or pick is available outside of Hall, RNH, Ebs, Schultz and Yakupov.

Out first in 2013, Gagner, Paajarvi, Hemsky, etc likely will be the first types of pieces moved to improve.

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I'm not sure if it will happen, but I could see a Myers for Eberle or Yak trade discussion happen over the summer.

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04-15-2013, 09:49 PM
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If Horcoff, Smyth, Belanger and Dubnyk are all replaced this summer then Mac T will be the greatest Oiler GM since Sather.
One of these is not like the other. Dubnyk has had a good season, he needs a quality backup.

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Probably a skill for grit trade. Hemsky for a very good 3rd liner is probably what will happen.
Fair enough. Any particular players you think Edmonton might be interested in? I think I saw some Oiler posters suggest a straight up swap of Hemsky for Ott on their forum, but I don't think that's very likely.

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What kind of return/players do Oiler fans expect for Hemsky? By the sounds of it, he seems like the most likely player to be traded.
Gritty depth players. Third line checking type. Or a package for a top pair d-man (where Hemsky isn't the main piece, don't flame over this one, lol).

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Fair enough. Any particular players you think Edmonton might be interested in? I think I saw some Oiler posters suggest a straight up swap of Hemsky for Ott on their forum, but I don't think that's very likely.
That would be perfect for Edmonton, but I doubt Buffalo wants a guy like Hemsky. Really, any tough, gritty guys who can score once in awhile should be considered.

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hopefully all of them

easy answer would be pajaarvi, gagner

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I suspect he trades everyone. Now that's bold!

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04-15-2013, 09:54 PM
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I don't see Hall, Yakupov, or RNH going anywhere.

Any other forward would likely be open for business.

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Hemsky for a 3rd line center or a 2nd pairing stay at home d-man.

He's not going to trade Gagner or either of the top 4. He can't afford to get anything in return that's going to contribute as much as they do.

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As others have mentioned, Hall, Ebs, Nuge, Yak, Schultz, Smid and Klefbom are highly unlikely to be available. Everything else would be on the table, including the pick which as of tonight is 6-8th (but again unlikely short of being packaged into a blockbuster). Some moves I'd be interested in (hopefully reality based):

Gagner, Paajarvi for Yandle. It was rumoured to have been discussed on the draft floor last year, with PHX declining. Gagner has taken a big step forward in terms of rounding out his game and producing consistently. Paajarvi a much smaller step, but still a positive one. Yandle has maintained his status as a very good offensive Dman, but soft and average on the defensive side of the puck. Pretty much what J Schultz seems slated to become.

Hemsky (2.5 mil absorbed) for Peverley. Neither has had a very good season, but both have something to offer help to the other team's weakness. Peverley can win draws, Hemsky can run a PP. With half the hit absorbed, BOS would save 500k in a season they need to get Rask extended. Peverley is under contract for 2 seasons, the perfect amount of time to fill in the 2C role until Monohan is ready (assuming we get him in the draft).

Offer our 2nd + Pitlick for Setoguchi. Minny needs cap flexibility if they are going to re-sign Backstrom. Frees up 3mil and gives them back a pick seeing as how they gave up their 1st. Setoguchi only has 1 yr left on his deal.

Sign Viktor Stalberg. No guarantee he gets to UFA, but he's big, fast, plays a solid physical game and produces in a 3rd line role (14 mins per game last 2 years, good for 20G, 40pts). On our team I think he could be a 2nd line LW. Gladly offer 2.5-3mil per.

Hall-Nuge-Yak (The # 1 line)
Stalberg-Peverley-Ebs (Peverley and Ebs looked good together at Worlds 3 yrs ago)
Hartikainen-Horcoff-Setoguchi
Petrell-Lander-Brown

Yandle-Petry
Smid-JSchultz
Klefbom-NSchultz
Fistric

Dubnyk
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Not a drastic improvement, but improved D, size, speed and grit up front and overall depth (much stronger 3rd line IMO). Relies on the young guns to continue to grow/have bounce back seasons, but I think it's a playoff calibre team if they do.

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04-15-2013, 10:02 PM
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As others have mentioned, Hall, Ebs, Nuge, Yak, Schultz, Smid and Klefbom are highly unlikely to be available. Everything else would be on the table, including the pick which as of tonight is 6-8th (but again unlikely short of being packaged into a blockbuster). Some moves I'd be interested in (hopefully reality based):

Gagner, Paajarvi for Yandle. It was rumoured to have been discussed on the draft floor last year, with PHX declining. Gagner has taken a big step forward in terms of rounding out his game and producing consistently. Paajarvi a much smaller step, but still a positive one. Yandle has maintained his status as a very good offensive Dman, but soft and average on the defensive side of the puck. Pretty much what J Schultz seems slated to become.

Hemsky (2.5 mil absorbed) for Peverley. Neither has had a very good season, but both have something to offer help to the other team's weakness. Peverley can win draws, Hemsky can run a PP. With half the hit absorbed, BOS would save 500k in a season they need to get Rask extended. Peverley is under contract for 2 seasons, the perfect amount of time to fill in the 2C role until Monohan is ready (assuming we get him in the draft).

Offer our 2nd + Pitlick for Setoguchi. Minny needs cap flexibility if they are going to re-sign Backstrom. Frees up 3mil and gives them back a pick seeing as how they gave up their 1st. Setoguchi only has 1 yr left on his deal.

Sign Viktor Stalberg. No guarantee he gets to UFA, but he's big, fast, plays a solid physical game and produces in a 3rd line role (14 mins per game last 2 years, good for 20G, 40pts). On our team I think he could be a 2nd line LW. Gladly offer 2.5-3mil per.

Hall-Nuge-Yak (The # 1 line)
Stalberg-Peverley-Ebs (Peverley and Ebs looked good together at Worlds 3 yrs ago)
Hartikainen-Horcoff-Setoguchi
Petrell-Lander-Brown

Yandle-Petry
Smid-JSchultz
Klefbom-NSchultz
Fistric

Dubnyk
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Not a drastic improvement, but improved D, size, speed and grit up front and overall depth (much stronger 3rd line IMO). Relies on the young guns to continue to grow/have bounce back seasons, but I think it's a playoff calibre team if they do.
Backstrom makes 6 mill this year. Will he really ask for so much more that they dump Setoguchi? Not to mention, Cullen and Bouchard are off the books.

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Backstrom makes 6 mill this year. Will he really ask for so much more that they dump Setoguchi? Not to mention, Cullen and Bouchard are off the books.
He isn't under contract for next year though, and the already have 58.9mil committed. Even if he signs for 5 mil, that would leave them 400k to sign 2D and 2F. League min is 525k.

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He isn't under contract for next year though, and the already have 58.9mil committed. Even if he signs for 5 mil, that would leave them 400k to sign 2D and 2F. League min is 525k.
Ah, I had a brain fart and forgot that the cap goes from 70mill to 64mill. Maybe they would consider a deal based around that then. Backstrom isn't someone they can afford to lose.

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Also, Minny has Clutterbuck as RFA and Cullen (whose been great for them) as UFA. There is the compliance buyout option (Heatley), but why waste that on a guy with only 1 yr left?

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He isn't under contract for next year though, and the already have 58.9mil committed. Even if he signs for 5 mil, that would leave them 400k to sign 2D and 2F. League min is 525k.
I don't know if they even keep Backstrom. There are other, cheaper options this summer. If they were going to keep him for sure, they would have extended him already I'm sure.

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My guess is Sam Gagner.. for some defensive help. They'll sell high on him and it'll be a sign of good things to come in Edmonton

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My guess is Sam Gagner.. for some defensive help. They'll sell high on him and it'll be a sign of good things to come in Edmonton
This is a very real possibility. I'd be worried about the Oil getting to weak up the middle, but blueline help is needed.

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I don't know if they even keep Backstrom. There are other, cheaper options this summer. If they were going to keep him for sure, they would have extended him already I'm sure.
And they wouldn't have traded Hackett...meaning that they are going with Harding and Kuepner(sp?).

IMO, Backstrom is as good as gone.

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This is a very real possibility. I'd be worried about the Oil getting to weak up the middle, but blueline help is needed.
RNH will be back, better than ever. If I'm running the Oilers I'm not concerned about the center position, I believe in RNH.

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