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04-15-2013, 11:32 PM
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Mike Green to Edmonton

Washington lost Semin.
The Caps have a lot of solid defenders.. Young ones too.

Hemsky could fill in what they lost in Semin.
Both are young talented players who have had injury issues.
Both have potential and fit each others teams needs.
Green is 1M more.

What does it take to get Green in Edmonton.
He's born in Calgary so I'm sure he'd be fine playing in Alberta.

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Streaky, injury ridden player with a massive contract.

Yup, future Oiler.

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Green has been on fire for the Caps recently, I don't see them moving him, especially now that they've captured some of their old fire.

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When healthy, the guy completely controls the Caps breakout. He's overlooked more often than not, and bashed still, for when he played poor defensively. But when, WHEN he's on, he controls the game. Offensively, defensively, PP, etc.

But, we can't overlook his streakiness/injuries. I'm one of the biggest Green fans around, despite his ****** tattoos, and I don't see the Caps moving him until he becomes a cap problem.

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04-16-2013, 12:27 AM
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No way WSH would deal him for Hemsky. As an Oilers fan, I wouldn't want to part with anything more.

Don't see a fit.

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04-16-2013, 12:32 AM
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He seems like the type of guy we should go after. But I don't see Washington taking Hemsky back for him. Too much salary there. If they move him, I think its because they want cap space for free agency.

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When healthy, the guy completely controls the Caps breakout. He's overlooked more often than not, and bashed still, for when he played poor defensively. But when, WHEN he's on, he controls the game. Offensively, defensively, PP, etc.

But, we can't overlook his streakiness/injuries. I'm one of the biggest Green fans around, despite his ****** tattoos, and I don't see the Caps moving him until he becomes a cap problem.
I see what you did there...

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04-16-2013, 06:11 AM
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I'm not sure that Green is the type of player the Oilers need. Green is just more of the same IMO. The Oilers need to become harder to play against. They need a few guys that will inflict pain on their opponents.

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04-16-2013, 06:31 AM
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the capitals would not trade mike green. 1. he finally has enough experience where his overall game is compatible with his offensive game. he's a high end all around defenseman now. 2. his offensive skill is unmatched in the league. you dont trade a player like that. 3. yes the caps have a lot of young defensemen. they are too young. at 27 green is the most experienced of their defensemen. they cant trade him.

there's no question that he has injury problems, but the reality is that when he is playing well the capitals win. they win at every level. their lack of playoff success has resulted to some degree when he was unable to back up his regular season play in the playoffs. last playoffs the caps overperformed in part because green was an impact.

the caps are not going to trade mike green.

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I doubt the Caps will trade Mike Green for anything surrounding Hemsky or Gagner considering he has, on multiple occasions scored more than either in their best seasons and he's a defenseman.

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Washington lost Semin.
The Caps have a lot of solid defenders.. Young ones too.
Hemsky could fill in what they lost in Semin.
Both are young talented players who have had injury issues.
Both have potential and fit each others teams needs.
Green is 1M more.

What does it take to get Green in Edmonton.
He's born in Calgary so I'm sure he'd be fine playing in Alberta.
This is where you went wrong.

Outside of Alzner there is no shutdown guy, Carlson, Green, and Orlov make up the rest of the top 4 and Orlov is in the minors.

Hillen is a bottom pairing guy and the 6th man is usually Erskine who I am not too high on.

Poti will be gone and Oates has figured out that Jeff Schultz may indeed be the worst player in the NHL.

We actually need D-Men, we can't afford to trade anyone at this point.

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04-16-2013, 07:36 AM
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it appears that erskine is the 4 not a 6. there is no question that his defensive game has improved to go with quality physical game. i personally think he is a very good 3rd pair defenseman but the capitals seem to see more.

hillen is another case of i dont know. players improve at different rates and older players like erskine, hillen and olesky can be examples of late bloomers that are real players. hillen looks like a good player, if a little small. maybe i dont know what i am looking at but he sure looks like he does his job well.

what is certain is that fans judging these players based on pedigree conflicts with what the capitals are doing with these players. orlov is in the ahl as you mention. if he was better than hillen or erskine or olesky, he would be in the nhl. rosters are expanded and the caps need not lose any of these players for depth purposes. oates wants to play those three instead of orlov right now.

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04-16-2013, 07:50 AM
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He's not the kind of d-man we need right now.
We need stay at home guy who can take on top 4 minutes.

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I'm not sure that Green is the type of player the Oilers need. Green is just more of the same IMO. The Oilers need to become harder to play against. They need a few guys that will inflict pain on their opponents.
They also need top tier defensemen. Which Green has been in the past, and is playing like again. The risk is with his health. I'm not sure if it holds up or not.

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what nhl team trades a first pair defenseman? you are barking up the wrong tree.

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How does Ales Hemsky fill a Caps need, again? The Caps already have Ovechkin, Brouwer, and Ward to occupy the top three RW spots, all of which have at least as many points as Hemsky. If you add Hemsky into the equation, the Caps would be spending over $20M on the right wing position. Beyond that, the Caps already have two playmaking wingers in Johansson and Erat, and don't really need another. And the Caps already acquired a top six winger recently (Erat) to help "replace" Semin.

The Caps issue is on defense, so why would they give away their best blueliner?

Awful proposal.

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If the Caps trade Green, they trade him for a wall of a shutdown D-man.

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i doubt that. mcphee's shutdown dman is karl alzner. i doubt very seriously that he spends the cap space required to get a defense first dman that is better than alzner.

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Johansson-Backstrom-Ovechkin
Laich-Ribeiro-Brouwer
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Chimera-Beagle-Hendricks

Yep, Hemsky sure does fill a need.

Alzner-Carlson
Erskine-Hillen
Orlov-Poti/Schultz/Fire Hydrant/Toaster

Yeah, lots of solid defenders. Where do I sign?

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not sure Green has a huge trade value.

And i really dont think EDM needs someone like him at all

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not sure Green has a huge trade value.
yea. you are right. defensemen like mike green are a dime a dozen.


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yea. you are right. defensemen like mike green are a dime a dozen.

"dmen like" what exactly?

oft injured, play-off no show, questionable defensive capabilities, and $6M a year?

he's VERY far removed from 09-10

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Should the Oilers not be after some shut down defensemen?

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Johansson-Backstrom-Ovechkin
Laich-Ribeiro-Brouwer
Erat-Perreault-Ward
Chimera-Beagle-Hendricks

Yep, Hemsky sure does fill a need.

Alzner-Carlson
Erskine-Hillen
Orlov-Poti/Schultz/Fire Hydrant/Toaster

Yeah, lots of solid defenders. Where do I sign?
I laughed, but in reality, you're right. I do think Orlov and Kundratek have bright futures though, and it's almost a given that Poti nor Schultz will ever wear a game sweat again barring 3-4 injuries. I think they'd call up Orlov or Kundratek before putting Schultz back in.

Also, don't forget Wilson and Kuz at W in the pipeline. Caps have no need for another winger.

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I laughed at a fire hydrant or toaster being better then Schultz (It's true, but the picture it paints is funny)

When Green is on there aren't many guys like him in the league whereas Hemsky is just as injury-prone and past his worth at this point. horrible deal on Washington's end

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