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04-16-2013, 12:22 PM
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Greatest leaf all time ?

Im sure this has been a hot topic, but im new to these forums and want to see what everyone thinks.

I started following the Leafs as a kid during the early 90's, So i havent seen any Leaf Players that played before that time period. Basically ive seen the Gilmour Era, Sundin Era till now.


In My Opinion, its Mats Sundin HANDS DOWN. The Numbers dont lie. 13 years with the club, great captain, all time Leaf Leader in Pts, almost has 1000 Pts for the Leafs(thats a lot.) He has Great Size and Skill, very Finesse player. Ive seen him put the team on his back and win us Games. It seemed he could do everything. had a great clapper and wrist, could dangle and play make. He put up big numbers with Domi on his line even. Didnt get us the cup, (won a gold for sweden) but came close.

I know Gilmour is extremely popular with Leaf Nation, and a great player, but only played 6 Seasons for us compared to Sundin's 13, which i find is far more impressive, cuz that rarely happens.


Leaf Nation, who is the greatest Leaf of all time ?

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04-16-2013, 12:25 PM
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Spot on, Sundin for me, too.

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Since the 90"s?

Sundin, Gilmour, Kessel.

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Since the '90s I'd have to say Gilmour.


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I would pick Davey K. but there are WAY too many opinions to ever determine this

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Börje Salming needs a mention as well even do that was before my time. He opened the door to the NHL for the rest of the Europeans, such as Sundin.

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04-16-2013, 12:32 PM
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Börje Salming needs a mention as well even do that was before my time. He opened the door to the NHL for the rest of the Europeans, such as Sundin.
absolutely. door opening aside, he was a beaut

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04-16-2013, 12:42 PM
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My sentimentality says Sundin, though I admit with some embarrassment that my knowledge of Leafs history is wanting.

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Keon.

Gilmour is up there too, but he didn't exactly spend a lot of time here. But when he was here, he was among the most dominant players in the game at the time. Sundin was a notch below that IMO.

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Kadri, then Kessel

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04-16-2013, 12:44 PM
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Im sure this has been a hot topic, but im new to these forums and want to see what everyone thinks.

I started following the Leafs as a kid during the early 90's, So i havent seen any Leaf Players that played before that time period. Basically ive seen the Gilmour Era, Sundin Era till now.


In My Opinion, its Mats Sundin HANDS DOWN. The Numbers dont lie. 13 years with the club, great captain, all time Leaf Leader in Pts, almost has 1000 Pts for the Leafs(thats a lot.) He has Great Size and Skill, very Finesse player. Ive seen him put the team on his back and win us Games. It seemed he could do everything. had a great clapper and wrist, could dangle and play make. He put up big numbers with Domi on his line even. Didnt get us the cup, (won a gold for sweden) but came close.

I know Gilmour is extremely popular with Leaf Nation, and a great player, but only played 6 Seasons for us compared to Sundin's 13, which i find is far more impressive, cuz that rarely happens.


Leaf Nation, who is the greatest Leaf of all time ?
Probably Dave Keon.

With regards to your post, Gilmour definitely lacks tenure, though it is worth noting the reason he is so popular is that at his most successful, he blew anything Sundin even dreamed of out of the water. One of the most dominant stretches of hockey I have seen by any player (and I've been an avid follower for 4 decades) - certainly any Leaf player.

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Hard thing to quantify given all the variables. But why not anyone of this group:
Players with honored numbers:
9 TED KENNEDY (October 3, 1993)
10 SYL APPS (October 3, 1993)
1 JOHNNY BOWER (March 11, 1995)
1 WALTER “TURK” BRODA
(March 11, 1995)
7 FRANCIS “KING” CLANCY
(November 21, 1995)
7 TIM HORTON (November 21, 1995)
9 CHARLIE CONACHER
(February 28, 1998)
10 GEORGE ARMSTRONG
(February 28, 1998)
27 FRANK MAHOVLICH
(October 3, 2001)
27 DARRYL SITTLER
(February 8, 2003)
4 CLARENCE “HAP” DAY
(October 4, 2006)
4 LEONARD “RED” KELLY
(October 4, 2006)
21 BORJE SALMING (October 4, 2006)

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04-16-2013, 12:51 PM
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Most skilled/talented/succesful

Dave Keon

Only Leaf with a Conn Smythe
4x Cup Winner
HHOF

Greatest "Leaf" hero/all heart/passionate/face of the franice

George Armstrong

4x Cup Winner (Captain each time)
Most games played by a Leaf all time
5th in points, 6th in goals, 15th penaly minutes for Leafs

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Probably Dave Keon.

With regards to your post, Gilmour definitely lacks tenure, though it is worth noting the reason he is so popular is that at his most successful, he blew anything Sundin even dreamed of out of the water. One of the most dominant stretches of hockey I have seen by any player (and I've been an avid follower for 4 decades) - certainly any Leaf player.
Keon for me too and I agree about Gilmour. No Leaf was as good at his peak, but the period was too brief.

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04-16-2013, 12:53 PM
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Criteria for selecting should be that you've seen the player play.

Keon for me.

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1) Keon
2) Sundin
3) Gilmour
4) Armstrong
5) Salming (tied)
5) Sittler (tied)

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Criteria for selecting should be that you've seen the player play.
I've seen like 3-4 games from the '60s on LeafsTV, so I'm pretty sure I'm qualified in saying that Dave Keon is the greatest Leaf of all-time.

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04-16-2013, 01:10 PM
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I've seen like 3-4 games from the '60s on LeafsTV, so I'm pretty sure I'm qualified in saying that Dave Keon is the greatest Leaf of all-time.
Hap Day was better.

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04-16-2013, 01:13 PM
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gotta go with Sundin or Gilmour

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It's Clark of course.

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04-16-2013, 01:28 PM
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Hard thing to quantify given all the variables. But why not anyone of this group:
Players with honored numbers:
9 TED KENNEDY (October 3, 1993)
10 SYL APPS (October 3, 1993)
1 JOHNNY BOWER (March 11, 1995)
1 WALTER “TURK” BRODA
(March 11, 1995)
7 FRANCIS “KING” CLANCY
(November 21, 1995)
7 TIM HORTON (November 21, 1995)
9 CHARLIE CONACHER
(February 28, 1998)
10 GEORGE ARMSTRONG
(February 28, 1998)
27 FRANK MAHOVLICH
(October 3, 2001)
27 DARRYL SITTLER
(February 8, 2003)
4 CLARENCE “HAP” DAY
(October 4, 2006)
4 LEONARD “RED” KELLY
(October 4, 2006)
21 BORJE SALMING (October 4, 2006)
Almost agree with this...need to add Gilmour, Clark, Sundin and of course Keon...

The best according to era?...

Original...Syl Apps (been told he was amazing)
Middle...Dave Keon (my personal favourite...4 cups...Lady Byng/Calder/Conn Smythe)
Modern...Sundin (wonderful player...not his fault who he was given to play with)

Can't compare the best of each era against each other...the era's were too different...so I won't try...

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04-16-2013, 01:41 PM
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I've been a fan since the early 60's....two words for ya, David and Keon. That is all.

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Kadri, then Kessel
Lol...when you get your drivers liscence, you should take a drive to the Hockey Hall of Fame....

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Gilmour did more for Toronto in his 6yrs then Sundin in 13. No comparison imho.

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