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04-16-2013, 02:49 PM
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Not saying i'd do it as a Pens fan but Letang? If the pick ends up being top 5.


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what? Which side are you on?


Either way i wouldn't give up eberle for that package, even if you forgot the pick.

And im one of the biggest proponents of moving eberle.
Alzner is washingtons number 1 shut down defenseman... Brouwer is a perfect 3rd line role player your club needs desperately and our 1st which will likely be 20-25th

So you move down 10 places say in the draft.. Gain a solid defenseman who would be a stand out beside Justin Schultz and a 3rd line role player who is a stud for Washington and has more goals on the season ( this season than eberle )

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04-16-2013, 02:50 PM
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what? Which side are you on?


Either way i wouldn't give up eberle for that package, even if you forgot the pick.

And im one of the biggest proponents of moving eberle.

what do you think Eberle will return.

instead of criticizing people actually make an intellegent counter offer to proposals.

Fact is Nashvile will not give up Weber. teams will not give up a pure #1 Dman.

eberlee has some risk given he is under a long term contract and his season so far---was last year an anomolly for him? I dont know. $6M per is a good for a reliable 30+ goal scorer---but not for someone who does 15-20.

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04-16-2013, 02:51 PM
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Terrible for the Hawks.

Seabrook for Eberle + 1st is fair, make the first Top 5 protected or add a 2nd(If they have it) from CHI side if the pick ends up top 5.
I love Seabrook's game and he'd be a huge addition to the Oilers but Eberle/top 5 pick for Seabrook/2nd isn't good for the Oilers.

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Byfuglien and Lowry? Assuming Edmonton picks ~9

Lowry is pretty much exactly what the oilers need in their top 6 . 6'5 center that plays physical and uses his size who also has offensive skill. He'd play on the Oilers next year gautenteed but perhaps starting in a bottom 6 role. This guy would be the perfect #2 center behind Nuge.

Eberle is a good fit for the Jets top 6. They need some skill up front.

I have a feeling both sides will say no to this one.

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Byfuglien and Lowry? Assuming Edmonton picks ~9

Lowry is pretty much exactly what the oilers need in their top 6 . 6'5 center that plays physical and uses his size who also has offensive skill. He'd play on the Oilers next year gautenteed but perhaps starting in a bottom 6 role. This guy would be the perfect #2 center behind Nuge.

Eberle is a good fit for the Jets top 6. They need some skill up front.

I have a feeling both sides will say no to this one.
I would do it with the hope that Trouba can be as good as I think he will be.

It really sucks to lose Buff though because he's so good at what he does.

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04-16-2013, 03:02 PM
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Eberle + a 1st for Shattenkirk +

or Eberle + 1st + for Pietrangelo?

I doubt Weber is moved. St. Louis is probably the team to target if Edmonton wants a number one D. Especially if they feel they can't re-sign one of the above two mentioned.

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what do you think Eberle will return.

instead of criticizing people actually make an intellegent counter offer to proposals.

Fact is Nashvile will not give up Weber. teams will not give up a pure #1 Dman.

eberlee has some risk given he is under a long term contract and his season so far---was last year an anomolly for him? I dont know. $6M per is a good for a reliable 30+ goal scorer---but not for someone who does 15-20.
Even while being extremely snake bitten, he's scoring at a 25 goal pace...and it's not like Eberle hasn't looked good this season. There's a reason why Oilers fans haven't been getting on him. He's creating tons of chances. He's really just gotten very few bounces this season.

...and the fact is that Edmonton isn't trading Eberle either. This is all hypothetical. The Oilers don't need to trade Eberle. It's not like he's requested a trade so MacT is negotiating from a position of weakness.

Also, considering the Preds might be going into a rebuilding phase, maybe an elite Dman that they only signed to that huge contract so they wouldn't lose him just for picks is someone they'd be interested in moving.

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04-16-2013, 03:03 PM
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Even while being extremely snake bitten, he's scoring at a 25 goal pace...and it's not like Eberle hasn't looked good this season. There's a reason why Oilers fans haven't been getting on him. He's creating tons of chances. He's really just gotten very few bounces this season.

...and the fact is that Edmonton isn't trading Eberle either. This is all hypothetical. The Oilers don't need to trade Eberle. It's not like he's requested a trade so MacT is negotiating from a position of weakness.

Also, considering the Preds might be going into a rebuilding phase, maybe an elite Dman that they only signed to that huge contract so they wouldn't lose him just for picks is someone they'd be interested in moving.
No, Nashville would not be interested in that.

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Eberle + a 1st for Shattenkirk +

or Eberle + 1st + for Pietrangelo?

I doubt Weber is moved. St. Louis is probably the team to target if Edmonton wants a number one D.
You might be onto something here. I don't know how Blues fans feel about it. Their blue line is stacked right now and Eberle could walk onto that team and instantly be their most dangerous forward.

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Eberle+potentially Monahan or Barkov?
It better be a franchise player coming back like OEL or Pietrangelo, nothing less.

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04-16-2013, 03:09 PM
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Not saying I actually want to do it from a Sens POV, but how about;

Ottawa
Eberle
1st

Edmonton
Kyle Turris
Jared Cowen
3rd

Edmonton gets a true number 2 center. The sens hope and pray Zibanejad could step in at their 2C spot.
Cowen also fits in as a defensive rock on the EDM blue-line.
The sens can go with:
Michalek-Spezza-Eberle
Conacher-Zibanejad-Silfverberg

Which is a really good top six IMO, unless that youngster line has a big Sophomore slump.

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I'd give you guys Yandle + something else for that package.

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IMO Eberle and the 1st for Schneider and Edler seems fair

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No, Nashville would not be interested in that.
Maybe they aren't but depending what direction they decide to take the team over the next few years(rebuild), they probably should. If the Preds thought Weber was worth the money he was making, they wouldn't have waited for the Flyers to give him an offersheet. So why pay Weber while you rebuild? He makes 80M in the first 6 years of the deal. And you think Weber is going want to be there for a rebuild?

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Not saying I actually want to do it from a Sens POV, but how about;

Ottawa
Eberle
1st

Edmonton
Kyle Turris
Jared Cowen
3rd

Edmonton gets a true number 2 center. The sens hope and pray Zibanejad could step in at their 2C spot.
Cowen also fits in as a defensive rock on the EDM blue-line.
The sens can go with:
Michalek-Spezza-Eberle
Conacher-Zibanejad-Silfverberg

Which is a really good top six IMO, unless that youngster line has a big Sophomore slump.
You're not sure you'd do it?

The only reason Oilers fans don't want Gagner as their 2nd line center is because of the type of players they already have in their top 6. So we sacrifice Eberle to downgrade on Gagner and add a Dman that hasn't proved a whole lot in the NHL yet(not his fault. He's young). Plus the Oilers add a top 10 pick?


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wait, you all are thinking that'd be a package?

No way a Eberle + EDM 1st gets moved as a package.

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Not saying I actually want to do it from a Sens POV, but how about;

Ottawa
Eberle
1st

Edmonton
Kyle Turris
Jared Cowen
3rd

Edmonton gets a true number 2 center. The sens hope and pray Zibanejad could step in at their 2C spot.
Cowen also fits in as a defensive rock on the EDM blue-line.
The sens can go with:
Michalek-Spezza-Eberle
Conacher-Zibanejad-Silfverberg

Which is a really good top six IMO, unless that youngster line has a big Sophomore slump.
No, not even close.
Karlsson or bust for that package and understandably, you would turn that down.

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wait, you all are thinking that'd be a package?

No way a Eberle + EDM 1st gets moved as a package.
Yeah if the Oilers by any chance made that a package it would be for a better player(singular). Not 3 or 4 lesser pieces

The combination of the 2 pieces is very unlikely unless some team wants to trade a Norris caliber defenseman or superstar forward(which is very unlikely)

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Not saying I actually want to do it from a Sens POV, but how about;

Ottawa
Eberle
1st

Edmonton
Kyle Turris
Jared Cowen
3rd

Edmonton gets a true number 2 center. The sens hope and pray Zibanejad could step in at their 2C spot.
Cowen also fits in as a defensive rock on the EDM blue-line.
The sens can go with:
Michalek-Spezza-Eberle
Conacher-Zibanejad-Silfverberg

Which is a really good top six IMO, unless that youngster line has a big Sophomore slump.
There is no way Edmonton even considers this. Turris would be a winger on Edmonton, he fills no needs for us.

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There is no way Edmonton even considers this. Turris would be a winger on Edmonton, he fills no needs for us.
Hall - RNH - Yakupov
Paajarvi - Gagner - Turris

would strike fear in no one's heart.

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wait, you all are thinking that'd be a package?

No way a Eberle + EDM 1st gets moved as a package.
This. Eberle and a 1st gets a huge package, not the crap being offered here. Think either a franchise d-man and a something else or a big, productive 2nd line center and a below franchise but still first pair d-man. Some of these offers are in the ballpark for Eberle OR the first, not both.

MacTavish said that it was unlikely that any of these kids are moved unless its a substantial return. We`re not selling low here. So if anyone wants Eberle, stop with the offers that include your second best d-man and bits and pieces. Unless that 2nd d-man is amazing, ha ha. For Eberle AND the 1st, we`d need a guy like OEL, Pietro, Subban, Doughty, etc. coming back as part of the deal.

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Hall - RNH - Yakupov
Paajarvi - Gagner - Turris

would strike fear in no one's heart.
Trading Eberle to get softer isn't the idea, ha ha.

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Also, considering the Preds might be going into a rebuilding phase, maybe an elite Dman that they only signed to that huge contract so they wouldn't lose him just for picks is someone they'd be interested in moving.


Not true..... When the last time a team gave 4 1sts in signing a player? When teams matched and offersheet when was the last time a player was traded?

4 1sts is about the best you can get for one player 99% of the time.

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IMO Eberle and the 1st for Schneider and Edler seems fair
Yeah, the Oilers would have to look seriously at this one.

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what do you think Eberle will return.

instead of criticizing people actually make an intellegent counter offer to proposals.

Fact is Nashvile will not give up Weber. teams will not give up a pure #1 Dman.

eberlee has some risk given he is under a long term contract and his season so far---was last year an anomolly for him? I dont know. $6M per is a good for a reliable 30+ goal scorer---but not for someone who does 15-20.
I'm not looking for Weber, but i don't want quantity, and i don't want other similar players (like Vanek)

Players i think about in a trade for Eberle: Larson, Shattenkirk, McDonagh, Kulikov. Some we'd have to add, some they would, but i think they are close. I think Larson is the closest 1 for 1 value, but not sure if NJ can make a D->F swap.

Players i know I'm not getting for Eberle: OEL, Petro, Doughty, Karlson, Weber, Bogosian.


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Not saying I actually want to do it from a Sens POV, but how about;

Ottawa
Eberle
1st

Edmonton
Kyle Turris
Jared Cowen
3rd

Edmonton gets a true number 2 center. The sens hope and pray Zibanejad could step in at their 2C spot.
Cowen also fits in as a defensive rock on the EDM blue-line.
The sens can go with:
Michalek-Spezza-Eberle
Conacher-Zibanejad-Silfverberg

Which is a really good top six IMO, unless that youngster line has a big Sophomore slump.
Take out the 1st...then...maybe...

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I'd give you guys Yandle + something else for that package.
for that PACKAGE? for that package, i'd hope we'd be pretty close to prying OEL away from you.

I particularly dislike Yandle compared to most, but even others would expect you to give up Yandle+ for just Eberle.

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