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04-16-2013, 09:25 PM
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"TSN: Price, Subban, Gallagher, and Therrien top the NHL Awards ballot poll"
Yeah, notice how Price is listed first? There you go, man, you got what you bargained for.

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04-16-2013, 09:28 PM
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I hope Price wins vezina, just to troll all the morons on this forum tbh
I guarantee you that Price will not even be nominated for the Vezina. You can bookmark this. There's just no way.

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Eastern Conference coaches must all be Price apologists. No other explanation.

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I love Price too and, of course, REALLY hope he finds his game, and soon! But, yeah, don't quite get this one. Has goaltending around the NHL this year been pretty bad?

but have you seen him play? he's a thoroughbred !!!!!!!!

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GM ≠ Coach so that would be 0% of voters and that's only for the Vezina. The other 3 awards have larger amounts of people voting (writers and broadcasters).

Maybe we should split this up into two threads, Price and the rest of the Habs because some Price defenders are ridiculous.
Or, and hear me out on this one, we could take this thread for what it is... A poll that has no reflection on who actually wins and appreciate the fact that this team is getting recognition for a great season. It's enough with the constant thrashing of the Habs #1 goalie every chance they see his name pop up in a thread title or in a post.

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Or, and hear me out on this one, we could take this thread for what it is... A poll that has no reflection on who actually wins and appreciate the fact that this team is getting recognition for a great season. It's enough with the constant thrashing of the Habs #1 goalie every chance they see his name pop up in a thread title or in a post.
Lettuce be cereal. The majority of the Price bashers either have very low hockey IQ or harbor a grudge against him because the girls they are too shy/scared to ask out always talk about how hot Carey Price is.

Ahh Jealousy, the green-eyed monster.

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Almost all the coaches in our conference think Price is the best goalie in the east... That's not significant?
It means Price garnered a majority of points in a vote system where 12 coaches voted 2 picks - 1 winner 1 runner up. We don't know how many pts were awarded for a winner vote as opposed to runner up vote. We also do not know the exact results.

In practice, Price might have won with only 2 coaches voting him first, and maybe 2 votes for 2nd place with some other goalies getting 2 votes for 1st and only one vote for 2nd. It's a possibility that this is how it went down. If so, it doesn't mean that a majority of head coaches think he is the best, or has been the best this season. It just means he got more points in that voting system. A bit like how Marois was elected with only 30ish % of the population actually voting for her. A majority of the actual total population did not want her.

This poll result just doesn't mean what you just said it means.

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As much as I love Price, WOW, that is shocking. Was it who would they most like to have or who has been the best. If it's EC goalies then I can understand since Anderson hasn't played that many games. Still surprising. Even MT over Carlyle - I think it's pretty close since Carlyle seems to have revitalized the leafs more, or maybe it just feels that way since it's been awhile since we remember what our team can do or if it can do it without Emmy.

Gallagher and Subban should get the Calder and Norris hands down. If they don't, it will be plain robbery. Huberdeau can go put up meaningless points all he wants, he is not the best rookie this year, not by a long shot (and I think Hubbey is going to be a league leader). Subban, is there really anyone better? Really? Subban > Suter.

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It means Price garnered a majority of points in a vote system where 12 coaches voted 2 picks - 1 winner 1 runner up. We don't know how many pts were awarded for a winner vote as opposed to runner up vote. We also do not know the exact results.

In practice, Price might have won with only 2 coaches voting him first, and maybe 2 votes for 2nd place with some other goalies getting 2 votes for 1st and only one vote for 2nd. It's a possibility that this is how it went down. If so, it doesn't mean that a majority of head coaches think he is the best, or has been the best this season. It just means he got more points in that voting system. A bit like how Marois was elected with only 30ish % of the population actually voting for her. A majority of the actual total population did not want her.

This poll result just doesn't mean what you just said it means.
Budaj probably wasn't an option so they voted for Price in his place.

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Budaj probably wasn't an option so they voted for Price in his place.
I know I'm gonna get a bunch of hate from the Price gestapo for this but all I did was correct PyrettaBlaze who made a statement that was just not factual.

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I know I'm gonna get a bunch of hate from the Price gestapo for this but all I did was correct PyrettaBlaze who made a statement that was just not factual.
They could pick between ~30 goalies in the conference and yet Price managed to be on the list more often than not and garnered enough votes to be one of the Vezina candidates.

However you want to spin the record, man.

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It means Price garnered a majority of points in a vote system where 12 coaches voted 2 picks - 1 winner 1 runner up. We don't know how many pts were awarded for a winner vote as opposed to runner up vote. We also do not know the exact results.

In practice, Price might have won with only 2 coaches voting him first, and maybe 2 votes for 2nd place with some other goalies getting 2 votes for 1st and only one vote for 2nd. It's a possibility that this is how it went down. If so, it doesn't mean that a majority of head coaches think he is the best, or has been the best this season. It just means he got more points in that voting system. A bit like how Marois was elected with only 30ish % of the population actually voting for her. A majority of the actual total population did not want her.

This poll result just doesn't mean what you just said it means.
Well if he actually got 2 votes for first and 2 for runner-up... That means he's still one of the best in the east

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Holy **** you guys are unbelievable. Instead of being happy that most coaches in the East picked our players as the winners.. "but it was only the coaches..." "...but it's only for the East"... but but but

****ing hell
11,000 posts and it still shocks you?

woke up this morning, read that story still in bed on my phone, got up with a smile.

anybody remember rejean tramblay i think it was, at the beginning of the season, saying the habs would win every award? calder to galchenyuk, vezina to price, richard to pacioretty, adams ti michel and so on? well that old senile sack of **** wasn't that far off

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Three thoughts;

1) If Columbus makes the playoffs (maybe even if they don't), Bobrovsky is a lock for the Vezina.

2) Plekanec would be a serious Selke candidate if he could win some faceoffs.

3) Jonas Brodin is one of the most underrated players in the league already. Even with my homer glasses for Gallagher, Brodin is right there with him for the Calder Trophy.

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Well if he actually got 2 votes for first and 2 for runner-up... That means he's still one of the best in the east
Hehe, no it does not mean that either. People have a really hard time with logic.

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However you want to spin the record, man.
Pretty much sums up some of the straw-grasping in this thread. Yeesh.

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They could pick between ~30 goalies in the conference and yet Price managed to be on the list more often than not and garnered enough votes to be one of the Vezina candidates.

However you want to spin the record, man.
Ok sure, he got enough votes to be top candidate for the vezina in the east before the flyers game. If you say that I won't correct you because that's factual and not a wrong conclusion to derive from the poll. I'm not spinning a record, I was merely correcting a statement that was not factual. Can we not make this into something it's not ?

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Three thoughts;

1) If Columbus makes the playoffs (maybe even if they don't), Bobrovsky is a lock for the Vezina.

2) Plekanec would be a serious Selke candidate if he could win some faceoffs.

3) Jonas Brodin is one of the most underrated players in the league already. Even with my homer glasses for Gallagher, Brodin is right there with him for the Calder Trophy.
1. Oof, good call. I agree on that.

2. Until then, he won't. I wonder if Bergeron takes it, even if he misses the rest of the season.

3. Eh, I think it's between Gallagher, Huberdeau and Saad. Any of the three could take the award and would deserve the honor.

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Ok sure, he got enough votes to be top candidate for the vezina in the east before the flyers game. If you say that I won't correct you because that's factual and not a wrong conclusion to derive from the poll. I'm not spinning a record, I was merely correcting a statement that was not factual. Can we not make this into something it's not ?
Certainly. As long as you concede to the notion that despite not having a season that is up to his standards (as far as it being a tale of two seasons right now), that coaches in the NHL still see him as a top netminder, we'll be all good.

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1. Oof, good call. I agree on that.

2. Until then, he won't. I wonder if Bergeron takes it, even if he misses the rest of the season.

3. Eh, I think it's between Gallagher, Huberdeau and Saad. Any of the three could take the award and would deserve the honor.
Man, Brodin is the #2 defenseman on the Minnesota Wild. He's 2nd on the team (1st among defenseman) in +/- and has registered 10-points. He plays over 2 minutes per games on a PK that ranks nearly Top-10. 52 blocked shots. He plays over 23 minutes a night. To put that in better perspective, he plays 8 seconds less per-game than PK Subban plays for the Habs.

In other words? He's ****ing incredible.

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Man, Brodin is the #2 defenseman on the Minnesota Wild. He's 2nd on the team (1st among defenseman) in +/- and has registered 10-points. He plays over 2 minutes per games on a PK that ranks nearly Top-10. 52 blocked shots. He plays over 23 minutes a night. To put that in better perspective, he plays 8 seconds less per-game than PK Subban plays for the Habs.

In other words? He's ****ing incredible.
Calder is based on points/stats, whether you like it or not, fortunately/unfortunately. Doesn't negate the fact that Brodin is great though.

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Calder is based on points/stats, whether you like it or not, fortunately/unfortunately. Doesn't negate the fact that Brodin is great though.
True enough.

Actually reading the TSN article, Saad just "edged" Brodin out in the poll.

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