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View Poll Results: 3 Biggest Losers
Henrik Lundqvist 27 27.27%
Dan Girardi 6 6.06%
Michael Del Zotto 19 19.19%
Anton Stralman 5 5.05%
John Moore 9 9.09%
Steve Eminger 9 9.09%
Ryan McDonagh 11 11.11%
Darrell Powe 5 5.05%
Arron Asham 4 4.04%
Taylor Pyatt 19 19.19%
Brian Boyle 13 13.13%
Brad Richards 51 51.52%
Ryane Clowe 13 13.13%
Derick Brassard 11 11.11%
Carl Hagelin 11 11.11%
Mats Zuccarello 21 21.21%
Rick Nash 22 22.22%
Derek Stepan 12 12.12%
Ryan Callahan 32 32.32%
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04-16-2013, 09:31 PM
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The only reason I want them to make the playoffs is so that they don't give a potential first overall pick to Columbus. I have no desire to actually watch them flounder around on the ice for 4 games.

Then again, no playoffs and Torts probably gets fired. Hmmmm.

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Sather really isn't going to give Clowe 4.5 a year right?
You know, Clowe plays one game without being coached by the idiot behind the bench, and he looks like he did when he was at his best for the Sharks.

He gets acclimated to the Torts system and disappears.

I don't think that's on Clowe.

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How bad of a coach Tortorella is finally shows. What defines a great is not their ability when all is going well. Now that things are not going well, it's showing through. Babcock adjusts and learns and works on the team game and game plan each game. Tortorella doesn't. He plays each team as is and doesn't change anything midgame. THe reasno why we don't score late or when we despartely need a goal is because we don't change our game plan. Nothing changes.

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Not only do they not practice offense, they don't practice how to win faceoffs.

I swear Michael Del Zotto is the dumbest Ranger since Alexei Kovalev.

How does this team score three power play goals with players that had gotten to the Garden 20 minutes before the game, yet can't do a thing after they get acclimated to the "system"?

**** *** TORTS!
at least Kovalev had All-World Skill.....same can't be said for Del Zaster

and yes......*****ing Torts!!!!

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serious question guys.

I'm seeing highlights from other games and I see intesity and passion and I am left wondering WTF is up with this team. There's no intensity, no passion.

Physically we lack everything you would expect from a team fighting for their playoff lives.

There is something VERY wrong in that room. HAS to be.

there's no excuse for this team to come out flat game after game with their playoff lives on the line.

They have no heart. NONE and that includes Callahan. A shell of a player this year

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Wow, a poll even dumber than our PP. Congratulations
Hey either way you slice it, Asham has zero votes.

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Wow, a poll even dumber than our PP. Congratulations
Thats not possible Just read and then vote for Richards

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How bad of a coach Tortorella is finally shows. What defines a great is not their ability when all is going well. Now that things are not going well, it's showing through. Babcock adjusts and learns and works on the team game and game plan each game. Tortorella doesn't. He plays each team as is and doesn't change anything midgame. THe reasno why we don't score late or when we despartely need a goal is because we don't change our game plan. Nothing changes.
BTW Last year was an anomaly.

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His wins in NY, his tenure is all because of Henrik Lundqvist.

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This game has just given me a massive headache.

Zucc and stepan were ok

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Absolutely agree......i Called that he should be stripped of the C. He's not leading in any way, shape, or form. Period

Also....all the Nash Bashers....at least Nash is trying to make a difference. Sure he's had a couple bad games, but it's not like his Linemates (like Cally) nor even Stepan have been getting him the puck NOR making any plays. He can't do it himself......and what I've seen is that his line can't even get into the offensive zone with the errant passes and weak attempts at gaining the Blue Line. And half the time...they are pinned in the D-zone...so it just burns his shift out.
All I have noticed is that they fail as a team. Just look at their breakouts. It's hard to even call them breakouts. What is that puts such a damper on skilled players (and do not tell me there is not enough skill to play a decent offensive game) and makes everything a ****show?
Why this constipation, this lack of being hockey players passing and generating plays with each other on a half-decent regular basis?

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serious question guys.

I'm seeing highlights from other games and I see intesity and passion and I am left wondering WTF is up with this team. There's no intensity, no passion.

Physically we lack everything you would expect from a team fighting for their playoff lives.

There is something VERY wrong in that room. HAS to be.

there's no excuse for this team to come out flat game after game with their playoff lives on the line.

They have no heart. NONE and that includes Callahan. A shell of a player this year
Probably have a Vegas trip planned...

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I couldn't help but vote for basically the entire team

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Any word yet from the league on why Mason was allowed to remain in the game after getting play halted by faking a stroke on the ice? He should have at least been forced to miss a shift by rule.

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serious question guys.

I'm seeing highlights from other games and I see intesity and passion and I am left wondering WTF is up with this team. There's no intensity, no passion.

Physically we lack everything you would expect from a team fighting for their playoff lives.

There is something VERY wrong in that room. HAS to be.

there's no excuse for this team to come out flat game after game with their playoff lives on the line.

They have no heart. NONE and that includes Callahan. A shell of a player this year
too Fat and Pampered because of their success last year, being on Broadway and living the NY Lifestyle + being Spoonfed all the Luxuries because they are the New York Rangers (Best Hotels, Planes, Facilites, etc).

Oh...and losing their heart in Prust and Dubi

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I hope to God you people are ironically voting for Callahan.

Where the hell has he been this season? Heart and soul of the team MY ASS.

Edit: oh three biggest losers... too bad I'm on my phone and don't notice. My votes def go to Richie, Cally and Nash then.
No clue what happened to him. Such a shell of his former self. Where's that kid that would lead by example and be willing to take Chara slap shots off the ankle?

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Regardless of individual players not playing up to their caliber, etc.. is it possible to come from a 1, 2 goal deficit in Torts' system if the other team doesn't make mistakes? The grinding, dump and chase, bang along the boards game is great and all - in the playoffs. But in the regular season is that type of game sustainable as the norm? Where any lapse by your team puts you in a hole whereby you are playing not to lose ( ie: "playing and trusting in our game" ) and waiting for the opposing team to make a mistake?

Obviously I'm not an NHL coach but it seems like we're coached not to lose ( which I've seen said elsewhere on these forums ). How/can Torts coach them to win?

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I took out the trash and noticed there was some dog **** on the pavement. For a second, I thought I was seeing the Rangers PP.

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Awful coaching cost us this game. How many times are we gonna see three guys below the goal line. It should be two battling for the puck while the third guy looks for a soft area in defensive coverage in between the slot and dots. Watched the flyers do it all game tonight.

On the last play, Nash had to throw the puck at the net when we should have had one forward not named Callahan (was behind the net) sliding into the high slot in WIDE OPEN ICE with the rest of them going to the net to keep their defensemen lower and create more traffic infront.

That's all coaching folks. Junior level stuff right there. It takes two seconds to go over in a video session if you know what you're doing. Unbelievable that that might actually be the problem with a NHL coach.
You can't criticize Torts because he admitted they don't practice offense.

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All I have noticed is that they fail as a team. Just look at their breakouts. It's hard to even call them breakouts. What is that puts such a damper on skilled players (and do not tell me there is not enough skill to play a decent offensive game) and makes everything a ****show?
Why this constipation, this lack of being hockey players passing and generating plays with each other on a half-decent regular basis?
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serious question guys.

I'm seeing highlights from other games and I see intesity and passion and I am left wondering WTF is up with this team. There's no intensity, no passion.

Physically we lack everything you would expect from a team fighting for their playoff lives.

There is something VERY wrong in that room. HAS to be.

there's no excuse for this team to come out flat game after game with their playoff lives on the line.

They have no heart. NONE and that includes Callahan. A shell of a player this year
But I thought that was all on Gaborik (not knocking Moore and Brassard, they've been great)

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Callahan got more TOI than Nash.

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Cmon Tampa.....

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Awful game, the team looked lazy and just like they didn't want to be there.

Nash overplaying the puck trying to be a bigger slower version of Kovalev and stickhandle through everyone.

Richards needs to either change his diet and train with Gary Roberts or he can't be a 1st line center anymore. Guy looks lost.

Moore is going to be a good piece for years to come. I like Brassard.

The system needs tinkering and they absolutely must get rid of some of this fat like Pyatt/Asham/Powe and make room for some of these kids next year. No UFAs, only for D depth.

It's been fun gang. I'll be away the next two weeks so thanks for chatting with me about hockey for the entire year. Even though we don't always agree and half the time get down each others throats, we're all passionate Rangers....and hockey fans. Hopefully we'll get some playoffs this year....if this team shows up the next 6.

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Callahan got more TOI than Nash.
And?

Both were terrible, it doesn't really matter which one got more TOI.

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