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04-17-2013, 12:33 PM
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No I don't really believe that... but it would be nice, I was a firm believer of his when he got here, always thought the coaches didn't give him a fair chance. To be fair, he might not have deserved it. Oh well.

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04-17-2013, 12:35 PM
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Do you want me to tell you the name of their tough players? The list is long.

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Go ahead. I'm waiting for this long list.

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04-17-2013, 12:36 PM
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Do you want me to tell you the name of their tough players? The list is long.

Want me to start?
He's correct in the hits stat being irrelevant though. It's a bit too subjective and subject to the scorekeeper's whims and you also have to consider whether an attempted hit would result in the player getting out of position.

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04-17-2013, 12:37 PM
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As if the hits stat is relevant. You know who's last in the league in hits? The Chicago Blackhawks. Let that sink in for a bit. The President's trophy winning team is last in the league.
And i'll start here:

- Bryan Bickell
- Dave Bolland (Very tough to play against)
- Brandon Bollig
- Dan Carcillo
- Jamal Mayers
- Andrew Shaw
- Sheldon Brookbank
- Brent Seabrook

They soft? No.
They small? No.

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04-17-2013, 12:38 PM
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He's correct in the hits stat being irrelevant though. It's a bit too subjective and subject to the scorekeeper's whims and you also have to consider whether an attempted hit would result in the player getting out of position.
I'm not against bringing in more diversity and more grit but the constant PMS'ing over it every single day about how this or that would be avoided is aggravating and useless quite frankly.

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As if the hits stat is relevant. You know who's last in the league in hits? The Chicago Blackhawks. Let that sink in for a bit. The President's trophy winning team is last in the league.
they do have some tough gritty guys on their roster to be role players.

But, to explain the lack of hits....It is tough to throw a hit when you always have the puck. That's why I dislike using the hit stat to prove "toughness"

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04-17-2013, 12:39 PM
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they do have some tough gritty guys on their roster to be role players.

But, to explain the lack of hits....It is tough to throw a hit when you always have the puck. That's why I dislike using the hit stat to prove "toughness"
We didn't even control the puck last game and we didn't even hit...

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04-17-2013, 12:41 PM
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And i'll start here:

- Bryan Bickell
- Dave Bolland (Very tough to play against)
- Brandon Bollig
- Dan Carcillo
- Jamal Mayers
- Andrew Shaw
- Sheldon Brookbank
- Brent Seabrook

They soft? No.
They small? No.
So you went on NHL.com and sorted the players out by hits. Nice. But how many of these players are actually regulars? I'll give you Bickell, Bolland, Shaw, and Seabrook as regulars.

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04-17-2013, 12:44 PM
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We didn't even control the puck last game and we didn't even hit...
or skate well, or shoot accurately, or pass effectively, or forecheck....so what's your point? We lost two games because we're "soft" or did we lose because the team as a whole played like soft poo?

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04-17-2013, 12:46 PM
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or skate well, or shoot accurately, or pass effectively, or forecheck....so what's your point? We lost two games because we're "soft" or did we lose because the team as a whole played like soft poo?
Last I heard, the team that hits the most wins the game.

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04-17-2013, 12:47 PM
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So you went on NHL.com and sorted the players out by hits. Nice. But how many of these players are actually regulars? I'll give you Bickell, Bolland, Shaw, and Seabrook as regulars.
First of all, no, i didn't do that. I actually know Chicago's team.

Bickell, Bolland, Shaw, Seabrook are regulars.

Carcillo played 20 games, Bollig played 22 games, Brookbank played 21 games and Myers 16 games. Not to bad, hé?

They have the weapons to answer the call.

And btw, they were very tough too when they won the cup. Just sayin'.

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And i'll start here:

- Bryan Bickell
- Dave Bolland (Very tough to play against)
- Brandon Bollig
- Dan Carcillo
- Jamal Mayers
- Andrew Shaw
- Sheldon Brookbank
- Brent Seabrook

They soft? No.
They small? No.
Patrick Kane is actually pretty soft.
I dunno, but Toews could be considered "tough" in some sense of the word, but I haven't watched much Blackhawks games to say much about.

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04-17-2013, 12:50 PM
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First of all, no, i didn't do that. I actually know Chicago's team.

Bickell, Bolland, Shaw, Seabrook are regulars.

Carcillo played 20 games, Bollig played 22 games, Brookbank played 21 games and Myers 16 games. Not to bad, hé?

They have the weapons to answer the call.

And btw, they were very tough too when they won the cup. Just sayin'.
So how does that compare to Emelin, Prust, Eller, Moen, Bouillon, Gorges, Halpern, Pacioretty (yeah, I listed them in terms of hits).

And I don't consider playing 20 games as a regular to be honest. Ryan White played 25 games.

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So how does that compare to Emelin, Prust, Eller, Moen, Bouillon, Gorges, Halpern, Pacioretty (yeah, I listed them in terms of hits).

And I don't consider playing 20 games as a regular to be honest. Ryan White played 25 games.
I'll give you Emelin, Prust and Bouillon. Even though Emelin is the biggest of the three and he is out for the season.

Moen is doing nothing this year, Gorges (love the guy, but he's more often than not on the wrong side of it when it comes to physicality), Halpern, well, if he is one on your top physical player, you're in trouble. And Patches, he can be physical at times, but this season, more often than not, he's not driving to the net like he used to last year.

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04-17-2013, 12:59 PM
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I'll give you Emelin, Prust and Bouillon. Even though Emelin is the biggest of the three and he is out for the season.

Moen is doing nothing this year, Gorges (love the guy, but he's more often than not on the wrong side of it when it comes to physicality), Halpern, well, if he is one on your top physical player, you're in trouble. And Patches, he can be physical at times, but this season, more often than not, he's not driving to the net like he used to last year.
And yet you listed Andrew Shaw in your list of "tough" players...

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And yet you listed Andrew Shaw in your list of "tough" players...
Go watch some Chicago games. He's tough and very annoying to play against.

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Go watch some Chicago games. He's tough and very annoying to play against.
I do. Yet you discredit Moen, Gorges and Pacioretty. Some consistency please.

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Last I heard, the team that hits the most wins the game.
so toronto must have what 10, 20 Stanley Cups in the last 46 years.

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I do. Yet you discredit Moen, Gorges and Pacioretty. Some consistency please.
This season, Shaw is probably tougher than Moen. Moen is a joke. Fake tough-guy.

Gorges, yeah he is tough 'cause he's blocking shots, but not physical.

Pacioretty is all about speed and shot. He hits from time-to-time. Not on a regular base. And not that physical either.

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We didn't even control the puck last game and we didn't even hit...
Our defense is turrible and Therrien's system has covered its flaws well this season.

I'm more concerned that Gallagher is our only consistent crease disturber. There are epic crosscheck wars in that area(along with dirty goals and other havoc) and we have one good soldier for that task.

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That Pens lineup looks like we're playing the Flames. It's definitely a game we can win. Only a clear lack of confidence stands in our way. (well, that and our soft team )

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This season, Shaw is probably tougher than Moen. Moen is a joke. Fake tough-guy.

Gorges, yeah he is tough 'cause he's blocking shots, but not physical.

Pacioretty is all about speed and shot. He hits from time-to-time. Not on a regular base. And not that physical either.
Both Moen and Gorges have more hits then Shaw so ergo, they are tougher, amirite?

And let's trade Pacioretty for Shaw while we're at it. Everybody wins!

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As if the hits stat is relevant. You know who's last in the league in hits? The Chicago Blackhawks. Let that sink in for a bit. The President's trophy winning team is last in the league.
ouch!!!that should shut em up .

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