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04-17-2013, 04:09 PM
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To New Jersey:
Dustin Tokarski

To Montreal:
Damon Severson

Add a late pick if the value is unfair.
No chance

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04-17-2013, 05:58 PM
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To New Jersey:
Dustin Tokarski

To Montreal:
Damon Severson

Add a late pick if the value is unfair.
Severson is valued very highly by the organization, no way he is traded.

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04-17-2013, 06:08 PM
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Not worth it for us to part assets for goalie with more pressing and unaddressed needs at forward.

Keep our assets for an upgrade at forward. If we are in search of a goalie this offseason, it means Hedberg has retired. I'd much rather see us sign someone like Khudobin who is a UFA this offseason for nothing than part with quality assets for a Bernier or Neuvirth.

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04-17-2013, 06:10 PM
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To New Jersey:
Dustin Tokarski

To Montreal:
Damon Severson

Add a late pick if the value is unfair.
Severson is pretty much untouchable. Considering that his trade value isn't high enough to make it worth it or beneficial to trade him. Especially since his future looks really bright and he's got the tools to be a great player in the mold of a guy like Keith and Suter. Not saying he becomes that though.

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04-17-2013, 06:17 PM
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Does NJ have a first still? I thought they had to forfeit one bc of the cap penalty a few years back and didn't last year with the 29th pick. Could be wrong
they don't have to do it until next year. and with a top 10 pick this year and the draft being in NJ, they arent doing it this year.

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04-17-2013, 06:29 PM
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Bernier wants to start. He has requested a trade.
ahhh not quite read here http://mayorsmanor.com/2013/01/lokti...rsManor.com%29

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04-17-2013, 06:31 PM
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This thread is the exact reason they wont be trading for a goalie. We will not be giving up a valuable piece such as (Severson,1st Rounder , Merrill ) to get a young goalie

The most Im willing to give up is a 2nd Rounder or some Mid Level Prospects such as Urbom

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04-17-2013, 06:34 PM
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He has the power to sign a sheet. The pick cost of the sheet sets Bernier's high value to the Kings. Unless Bernier is signed or in LAK's pocket, LAKs hold some cards but not all.
They match any offer sheet less then 3.5 not that im worried about any one giving a offer sheet for him. If they didnt get drew im not worried about jb. Anything over that is a decent compensationn 1st and 3rd which we are close to what were asking and he would be over payed for the rfa contract period. Would be cheaper in the long run to just trade a player and same 1st pick and sign him to a cheaper contract.

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04-17-2013, 06:38 PM
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Bernier+Martinez/King+
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Urbom+2nd+1st 2015
nope no need for a defenseman and adding martinez or king + isnt happening an this year is the frist we would need not 15

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04-17-2013, 06:46 PM
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Set some things straight

Not moving our 1st
Not moving Henrique
Not moving Larsson

I don't even want Bernier as a Devils fan, I really don't think he will be a starter for us

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04-17-2013, 06:53 PM
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Set some things straight

Not moving our 1st
Not moving Henrique
Not moving Larsson

I don't even want Bernier as a Devils fan, I really don't think he will be a starter for us
No one said you have to. Jb will not be traded for scraps. Its your fellow fans asking us for his price not us asking you for stuff for him. Now that we understand each other better i dont see a trade with kings and devils happening.

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04-17-2013, 06:58 PM
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If you want Schneider, it would be at a very high price. Eddie Lack who is NHL ready but injured atm could be available but I don't think the Devils will be willing to give up what the Canucks would want. (1st round pick)

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04-17-2013, 07:05 PM
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If you want Schneider, it would be at a very high price. Eddie Lack who is NHL ready but injured atm could be available but I don't think the Devils will be willing to give up what the Canucks would want. (1st round pick)
It makes zero chance for us to trade Lack. He's basically a ready-made cheap backup to whomever we keep after the offseason, and his value is low due to his injury this season.

Although the truth is, if NJ doesn't want to give up quality assets, they won't get any quality assets. They can hope someone fills Brodeur's hole from within the organization, but if I were to bet, I would assume they'd have about as much luck as Detroit when they lost Lidstrom.

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04-17-2013, 07:07 PM
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Before everyone goes "You have to give to get"

I'm totally fine with signing a Vet and rolling with Kinkaid after Marty is done. I really don't even want Bernier. Something around Henrique and Schneider though I would do

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04-17-2013, 07:11 PM
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Before everyone goes "You have to give to get"

I'm totally fine with signing a Vet and rolling with Kinkaid after Marty is done. I really don't even want Bernier. Something around Henrique and Schneider though I would do
I posted earlier I would be okay dealing Schneider for Henrique + 2nd.

Although I'd like to know how effective Henrique is at wing. I believe he can play there as well as C, correct?

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04-17-2013, 07:16 PM
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I posted earlier I would be okay dealing Schneider for Henrique + 2nd.

Although I'd like to know how effective Henrique is at wing. I believe he can play there as well as C, correct?
So you wouldn't trade Lack for a 1st round pick but you would trade Schneider? Interesting..

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04-17-2013, 07:27 PM
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So you wouldn't trade Lack for a 1st round pick but you would trade Schneider? Interesting..
I would absolutely trade Lack for a 1st, but there's not a snowball's chance in you-know-where we get that for him. He's cheap and will shortly fill a need. He's more valuable to us than other teams. Schneider on the other hand, is more expendable to us than he would be to other teams, and we could use a player like Henrique more than we need Schneider, if we keep Luongo.

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I could see buffalo trading one of Enroth or Hackett at the draft if Miller isn't moved.

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Bernier seems like a no brainer. Doubt DL will get what he is asking for too.

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Isn't khudobin a UFa. Depending on what he fetches on the open market, wouldn't it be safe to put down about 2-2.5 over 2-3 years. He had proven to be hotter than a vezina candidate this year at times. Not saying he is going to be a hero, but he has had decent numbers at all levels. Do you give up a first Etc. for a guy like Bernier or nothing for this guy and after Marty is gone you have him as your #1 with kinkaid Wedgwood battling for backup. If he is not a legit #1 but a decent backup he really isn't overpaid. Gamble to take if there isn't much of a demand. Many goalies available this year via trade or free agency so he might not be worth to much money

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with the organizational depth the Devils have they absolutely cannot afford to trade Henrique.

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Ahh.

I love coming to the trade board every once in awhile for some hilarity. And boy did I find it.

Eddie Lack for a 1st round pick, especially one that is likely to be Top 10? Goodness gracious. I'm sure Lou would consider dealing the 1st round pick for Schneider, but even then I think he'd back off from making it ultimately.

I could see Bernier having a price tag associated with him, but he's also a bit smaller and I don't love smaller goalies, especially not in today's NHL and a guy who quite honestly, while more experienced than Lindback, hasn't really been subjected to game time that would help one feel confident in his ability to become "the guy" now and in the future. I could see potentially Lou considering giving up the Devils 2nd this year (which will be Top 40) and a B prospect, but zero chance the Devils give up the 1st rounder. They need that to try and land a top-flight forward prospect.

In the end I think the Devils will look to acquire a veteran goalie as a stopgap for a few years until Wedgewood is ready or another goalie becomes available at a price more palatable.

You can bet the Devils have looked around the league and seen all these goalie trades recently and how much they have not lived up to the challenge in most cases. I think they'd be pretty wary of giving up assets for an unproven backup or a prospect. But we shall see. I think of all those names discussed, Bernier is the likeliest. Just too much smoke there with some of the rumors that have been popping since last offseason, the history and rapport between Lamoriello and Lombardi.

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I wouldn't think that Merrill is untouchable when it comes to trading for a young goalie.

The team has depth on D (both at NHL level and prospect level) and I would think a Merrill + pick (not 1st round) for Bernier is a fair deal.

Bernier is a former first round pick that has outplayed Quick this year. He is ready for a starting job.

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with the organizational depth the Devils have they absolutely cannot afford to trade Henrique.
Can't Elias, Zajac, and Zubrus all play centre? If Hedberg or Brodeur retire this offseason, I'd think your goaltending depth would be considerably worse

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Can't Elias, Zajac, and Zubrus all play centre? If Hedberg or Brodeur retire this offseason, I'd think your goaltending depth would be considerably worse
Elias is 37 (and UFA) and Zubrus is UFA. and yes Elias pretty much plays strictly center nowadays. Zubrus is much better suited as a winger anyways.

Brodeur isn't retiring. Hedberg might, but even an average backup would've been better than him this year. just sign someone in the worst case scenario.

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