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04-18-2013, 09:22 AM
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Kid must have jam
I mean, not every prospect has to score a ton, I think we all understand that. If he can provide some forechecking and be able to drop the gloves, it isn't the worst signing.

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The Rangers signed him? I'd like to see confirmation of that from somewhere else...
Cerny tweeted it and it is on snyrangersblog.com

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Its official. http://rangers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=666473

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You'd like for them to sign players that have some offensive upside. This kid looks like a 3rd liner at best; they already have enough of those.

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You'd like for them to sign players that have some offensive upside. This kid looks like a 3rd liner at best; they already have enough of those.
Well, if they think the kid is a relatively safe bet to become a third line player in the league, it's not a bad move. It's like an extra second or third round pick. The problem is we sign guys like Tommy Grant that have AHL-caliber skills and nothing more. I'm not sold on Kantor from the couple times I saw him. Very limited sample size though. We'll see.

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You'd like for them to sign players that have some offensive upside. This kid looks like a 3rd liner at best; they already have enough of those.
I think that would be a home-run if he became a 3rd liner. All I want to know is what type of player is he? Can he forecheck effectively? PK? Players like that are still useful.

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Well, if they think the kid is a relatively safe bet to become a third line player in the league, it's not a bad move. It's like an extra second or third round pick. The problem is we sign guys like Tommy Grant that have AHL-caliber skills and nothing more. I'm not sold on Kantor from the couple times I saw him. Very limited sample size though. We'll see.
The fact that they got Mashinter for Grant is amazing to me.

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Does count towards the 50 player contracts ?

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The OHL site had Kantor's hometown in Illinois. The Rangers site has Kantor being born in NYC.

Looks more like the battler type. Good size-will drop the gloves. Puts up some points now and again. He's at least a couple years away I would think.

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Does count towards the 50 player contracts ?
Not this season. He signed an ATO for this year.

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You need EVERY type of player in your system. This idea that we should ONLY be signing guys with good offensive upside is ridiculous.

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You need EVERY type of player in your system. This idea that we should ONLY be signing guys with good offensive upside is ridiculous.
While I agree, it seems like we sign these type of players exclusively, and bottom pair dmen.

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While I agree, it seems like we sign these type of players exclusively, and bottom pair dmen.
Not even remotely true.

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Being a rangers fan my whole life having season tickets since 1964 and growing up on Long Island it's a dream come true!! #NYR

That's pretty cool I guess.

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Being a rangers fan my whole life having season tickets since 1964 and growing up on Long Island it's a dream come true!! #NYR

That's pretty cool I guess.
We just signed a guy who has had season tickets for 49 years?

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After signing M Kantor here is the roster...

I wonder if Kantor played any hockey against John Moore as Kantor is out of Lake Forest and Moore out of Winnetk, Illinois? I remember myself playing Lake Forest many times as a member of the Winnetka squad, they were not very good back then...

Anyways here is a new list of -
PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK RANGERS 2013 (50)

NEW YORK RANGERS (26 - 3 players on LTIR)
Nr Pos Player Caphit Status Team Drafted
1 D McDonagh, Ryan (ELC) $1,300,000* RFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #12 Montreal (2007)
2 D Sauer, Michael (LTIR) $1,250,000 RFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL R2 #40 NYR (2005)
3 F Stepan, Derek (ELC) $875,000 RFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHLR2 #51 NYR (2008)
4 F Hagelin, Carl (ELC) $875,000* RFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL R6 #168 NYR (2007)
5 F Zuccarello, Mats $700,000 RFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted
6 F Clowe, Ryan $3,625,000 UFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL R6 #175 San Jose (2001)
7 D Hamrlik, Roman $3,500,000 UFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #1 Washington (1992)
8 D Eminger, Steve $750,000 UFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #12 Washington (2002)
9 D Gilroy, Matt $650,000 UFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted
10 F Brassard, Derick $3,200,000 RFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #6 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006)
11 D Del Zotto, M. $2,550,000 RFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #20 NYR (2008)
12 F Kreider, Chris (ELC) $1,325,000* RFA 2014New York Rangers/NHL R1 #19 NYR (2009)
13 D Moore, John (ELC) $965,000 RFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #21 Columbus Blue Jackets (2009)
14 G Lundqvist, Henrik $6,875,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R7 #208 NYR (2000)
15 F Callahan, Ryan $4,275,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R4 #127 NYR (2004)
16 D Girardi, Dan $3,325,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted
16 D Stralman, Anton $1,700,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R7 #216 Toronto (2005)
18 F Boyle, Brian (DtD) $1,700,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #26 Los Angeles (2003)
19 F Pyatt, Taylor $1,550,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #8 New York Isles (1999)
20 F Powe, Darroll $1,066,667 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted
21 G Biron, Martin $1,300,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #16 Buffalo (1995)
22 F Asham, Arron $1,000,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R3 #71 Montreal (1996)
23 D Staal, Marc (LTIR) $3,975,000 UFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #12 NYR (2005)
24 F Dorsett, Derek (LTIR) $1,633,333 UFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R7 #189 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006)
25 F Nash, Rick (NMC) $7,800,000 UFA 2019 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #1 Columbus (2002)
26 F Richards, Brad (NMC) $6,666,667 UFA 2020 New York Rangers/NHL R3 #64 Tampa Bay (1998)

Assigned to AHL/ECHL/Europe (24)
Nr Pos Player Caphit Status Team Drafted
27 D Niemi, Jyri (ELC) $700,000* RFA 2013 Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL R3 #72 NYI (2008)
28 F Ferriero, Benn $700,000 RFA 2013 Connecticut Whale/AHL R7 #196 Phoenix (2006)
29 D Pyett, Logan $600,000 RFA 2013 Connecticut Whale/AHL R7 #212 Detroit (2006)
30 F Palmieri, Nick $577,500 RFA 2013 Connecticut Whale/AHL R3 #79 New Jersey Devils (2007)
31 F Mashinter, Brandon $550,000 RFA 2013 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
32 D Collins, Sean $600,000 UFA 2013 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
33 F Segal, Brandon $550,000 UFA 2013 Connecticut Whale/AHL R4 #102 Nashville (2002)
34 D Vernace, Mike $525,000 UFA 2013 Connecticut Whale/AHL R7 #201 San Jose (2004)
35 F Jean, Kyle (ELC) $925,000* RFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
36 F Bourque, Ryan (ELC) $900,000* RFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHL R3 #80 NYR (2009)
37 G Missiaen, Jason (ELC) $750,000* RFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHLUndrafted
38 G Stajcer, Scott (ELC) $700,000* RFA 2014 Greenville Road Warriors/ECHLR5 #140 NYR (2009)
39 F Wilson, Jason (ELC) $588,333 RFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHL R5 #130 NYR (2010)
40 D Bickel, Stu $750,000 UFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
41 F Newbury, Kris $600,000 UFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHL R5 #139 San Jose (2002)
42 F Haley, Micheal $600,000 UFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
43 D McIlrath, Dylan (ELC) $1,295,000* RFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHL R1 #10 NYR (2010)
44 F Miller, J.T. (ELC) $1,244,167* RFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHL R1 #15 NYR (2011)
45 F Thomas, Christian (ELC) $970,000* RFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHL R2 #40 NYR (2010)
46 F Fast(h), Jesper (ELC) $900,000* RFA 2015Connecticut Whale/AHL R6 #157 NYR (2010)
47 F Yogan, Andrew (ELC) $800,000 RFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHL R4 #100 NYR (2010)
48 F Lindberg, Oscar (ELC) $760,000* RFA 2015 Loaned to Skellefteå AIK/SEL R2 #57 PHX (2010)
49 F Hrivik, Marek (ELC) $685,000* RFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
50 G Talbot, Cameron $562,600 UFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted

CONTRACTED PLAYERS THAT DO NOT COUNT against 50 contract limit in 2013 (4)
Nr Pos Player Caphit Status Team Drafted
+ D Allen, Connor (ELC) $1,775,000* RFA 2016Connecticut Whale/AHL?undrafted
+ D Hughes, Tommy (ELC) $608,333* RFA 2016London Knights/OHLundrafted
+ F Nicholls, J. (ELC) $709,167 RFA 2016 Juniors - Saskatoon Blades/WHL R7 #182 Toronto Maple Leafs (2010)
+ F St. Croix, M. (ELC S) $665,000 RFA 2016 Juniors - Edmonton Oil Kings/WHL R4 #106 NYR (2011)
+ F Kantor, Michael (ELC) $$ ?? NA RFA 2016?? Juniors - Sudbury Wolves/OHLUndrafted

Players still unsigned but with rights retained by NYR (there are a few more here I believe)
Pos PlayerTeam Drafted
D Pashnin, Mikhail HC Lokomotiv Yaroslavl/KHL R7 #200 NYR (2009)
F Fogarty, Steven Notre Dame Fighting Irish/CCHA R3 #72 NYR (2011)
F McColgan, Shane Saskatoon Blades/WHL R5 #134 NYR (2011)
D Noreau, Samuel Baie-Comeau Drakkar/LHJMQ R5 #136 NYR(2011)
D Čerešňák, Peter Peterborough Petes/OHL R6 #172 NYR (2011)
D Skjei, Brady Minnesota Golden Gophers/WCHA R1 #28 NYR (2012)
F Nieves, Cristoval Michigan Wolverines/CCHA R2 #59 NYR (2012)
D Andersson, Calle Malmö /HA R4 #119 NYR (2012)
F Spelling, Thomas Oskarshamn/HA R5 #142 NYR(2012)

* - includes bonus money in contract
ELC - denotes player on Entry Level Contract
NTC - denotes No Trade Clause in Contract
NMC - denotes No Movement Clause in Contract
LTIR - denotes player placed on Long time injury reserve

NYR Draft picks in 2013
  • 3rd round Nashville (for NYR 3rd round pick 2012)
  • 3rd round NYR
  • 3rd round Columbus (in Nash trade 2012, conditional - that NYR do not go to SC finals in 2013)
  • 4th round NYR
  • 6th round NYR
  • NO 1st rounder (traded to Columbus for Rick Nash... 2012)
  • NO 2nd rounder (traded to San Jose for Ryan Clowe in 2013)
  • NO 5th rounder (traded to Nashville for Nashville 5th 2012 - chose Tomas Spelling at #142)
  • NO 7th rounder (traded to Minnesota along with Eric "Crusher" Christensen for Casey Wellman 2012)
NYR Draft picks in 2014
  • 1st round NYR
  • 3rd round NYR
  • 4th round NYR
  • 5th round Florida (for Casey Wellman)
  • 5th round NYR
  • 6th round NYR
  • 6th round Columbus (for Marian Gaborik)
  • Eventually NO 2nd rounder NYR (conditionally traded to San Jose for Ryan Clowe in 2013 - condition being if he resigns with NYR or NYR get to ECF in 2013 - then San Jose gets the pick. It will be the Rangers' 5th-round pick in 2014 if neither condition is met.)
  • Eventually NO 7th rounder (conditionally traded to San Jose along with Tommy "horror-movie" Grant for Brandon Mashinter 2013 - condition being if he resigns with NYR then San Jose gets the pick)

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Being a rangers fan my whole life having season tickets since 1964 and growing up on Long Island it's a dream come true!! #NYR

That's pretty cool I guess.
Uh oh, the last life long Rangers fan we signed ended up making pizzas

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I think that would be a home-run if he became a 3rd liner. All I want to know is what type of player is he? Can he forecheck effectively? PK? Players like that are still useful.
I think Kantor is a prospect the Rangers fans will love. He'll skate through a wall to win. He was the wolves best PKer and shot blocker this year. Great on the fore-check and can absolutely lay people out in open ice. Has some pretty good skating and hands would consider him a bit underated in an offensive regard.

Would have probably had a bigger season but ended up blocking a shot off his face mid season which caused him to miss a month and seemed to really throw off his game for a bit.

Was also named the wolves MVP at the pre-season junior world championships that they played in russia.

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I think Kantor is a prospect the Rangers fans will love. He'll skate through a wall to win. He was the wolves best PKer and shot blocker this year. Great on the fore-check and can absolutely lay people out in open ice. Has some pretty good skating and hands would consider him a bit underated in an offensive regard.

Would have probably had a bigger season but ended up blocking a shot off his face mid season which caused him to miss a month and seemed to really throw off his game for a bit.

Was also named the wolves MVP at the pre-season junior world championships that they played in russia.
See that is what I was asking for. Thank you very much for doing this. If he can come in and be a force on the forecheck, fight a little and PK then it's a good signing.

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I think Kantor is a prospect the Rangers fans will love. He'll skate through a wall to win. He was the wolves best PKer and shot blocker this year. Great on the fore-check and can absolutely lay people out in open ice. Has some pretty good skating and hands would consider him a bit underated in an offensive regard. Would have probably had a bigger season but ended up blocking a shot off his face mid season which caused him to miss a month and seemed to really throw off his game for a bit.

Was also named the wolves MVP at the pre-season junior world championships that they played in russia.
what player does he compare best too??? David Clarkson (also undrafted UFA), Todd Harvey, Sean Avery, Brandon Prust???

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Why 13? For 2013?

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See that is what I was asking for. Thank you very much for doing this. If he can come in and be a force on the forecheck, fight a little and PK then it's a good signing.
All he did was gush over him, what about his negatives, gotta have some being undrafted and all, no?

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I hope so. I just registered @mkantor14. Gonna sell it to him next year. Gunna b rich.

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All he did was gush over him, what about his negatives, gotta have some being undrafted and all, no?
Of course. His lack of offense is probably one of them?

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I hope so. I just registered @mkantor14. Gonna sell it to him next year. Gunna b rich.
You really think you're some kind of riot huh?

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Of course. His lack of offense is probably one of them?
That's just stat talk, what about the players progression and his game, what needs work besides the fact that he doesn't seem to rack up numbers.

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