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04-18-2013, 01:37 AM
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Sleeper players that hit 1000 points

My friend told me the other day that Ray Whitney hit the 1000 point mark. I looked up his stats and was surprised as when he came into the league he was a power play specialist. He isn't the largest player so to be able to hit this mark is pretty impressive.

375 Goals
653 Assists
1255 games
Total Points 1028

Second player that is under the radar was Brian Propp.

Games 1016
Goals 425
Assists 579
Total points 1004

Did not figure when thinking he hit this mark as well. Impressive stats as well.

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wish the sharks had never lost the wizard...

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The only NHL player to "underperform" his way to 1000pts, Mr. Alex Kovalev

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What about Dale Hunter? He's the only player with 1,000 points and 3,000 penalty minutes.

What makes that feat more impressive for Ray Whitney is that he has over 500 points since the lockout.

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04-18-2013, 07:45 AM
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Bernie Nichols

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Bernie Nichols was only one of five players in NHL history that scored 150 or more points in a single season.

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wish the sharks had never lost the wizard...
I wonder if he would have been the same player had he remained longer with the Sharks. He really blossomed after his second move which was to Florida.

Also interesting is that he was a second round pick and the guy that the Sharks picked over him in the first round was his good buddy from the Spokane Chiefs, Pat Falloon, whose career died a long time ago.

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Ron Francis having almost 1800 points kind of shocks me

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Bernie Nichols was only one of five players in NHL history that scored 150 or more points in a single season.
wasn't he playing with Gretzky though?

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Ron Francis having almost 1800 points kind of shocks me
If you do remember how much time he is played, not really that shocking

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If you do remember how much time he is played, not really that shocking
Francis was good--but he played in the shadows and got over looked

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Francis was good--but he played in the shadows and got over looked
Indeed. Isn't he like the 4th highest scoring player ever? (in terms of points, not goals...)

Kind of weird... I know he was good, but not 4th scoring player ever good.

As for Whitney, we heard billions of people last year talking about his 1000th point. It's really cool, Whitney is a great player, but no surprise/shock for me...

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Philly beef and swiss Housley seems awfully high up the list.

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My friend told me the other day that Ray Whitney hit the 1000 point mark. I looked up his stats and was surprised as when he came into the league he was a power play specialist. He isn't the largest player so to be able to hit this mark is pretty impressive.

375 Goals
653 Assists
1255 games
Total Points 1028...
Ray Whitney is really underrated. The only active forwards with more points are Jagr, Selanne, Thornton, Aldredsson, and Iginla.

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Luc Robitaille drafted in the 11th round, finished with the highest point total for a LW

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I keep forgetting about Vinnie Damphousse's peak, where he was close to a 40 goal scorer and going over 90 points a season, but I'm still somewhat surprised that he scored over 1200 points. If you would have asked me for an estimated guess, I would have said around 1000-1050.

Al MacInnis surprises me a little too. Wouldn't have expected 1274 points. To think he probably could have played another 2 seasons too if he didn't have the problems with his vision. Post-lockout MacInnis probably would have added another 100 points over 2-3 seasons to his career totals.

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I'm making a one time exception to the 1000 point topic here. How many people knew that Ryan Smyth has more points than Kovalchuk?


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^ I didn't. But given that Smyth's in the twilight of his career and Kovy's in his prime, I don't think that will last long.

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Al MacInnis surprises me a little too. Wouldn't have expected 1274 points. To think he probably could have played another 2 seasons too if he didn't have the problems with his vision. Post-lockout MacInnis probably would have added another 100 points over 2-3 seasons to his career totals.
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Francis was good--but he played in the shadows and got over looked
1800 points is great and Francis was above average for his entire career but his era helps a ton.

Just a look at active players shows how hard points are to come by this century.

http://www.hockey-reference.com/lead...ts_active.html

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Not sure about Nicholls. Yes the 150 points was Gretzky induced but he also had two other 100 point seasons and a 95 point year. All years were relatively high on the scoring charts those years so it isn't as if he didn't have some big years.

I came here to post Kovalev's name since it was the first one that popped into my head. Definitely underacheived in his career, no doubt. Still hard to believe he had that many points though, playing 20 years helps I guess.

Two players also come to mind. Jason Arnott has 938 points. Never more than 76 in a season. Not sure if he'll get to 1000, but he's close. Scott Stevens had over 900 points in his career if you can believe it.

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Brian Bellows? He was an excellent, underrated player, but he might be up there as the worst player to hit 1000 points -- I'd probably give Ray Whitney an edge here at this point and maybe even Kovalev.

Or perhaps Pat Verbeek is the worst player to hit 1000. Actually, the more I think about it, the less sure I am on how to rank them.

(With the obvious caveat that anyone who can score 1000 points in the best league in the world is a great player who's achieved one hell of a milestone, etc. etc.)


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Not sure about Nicholls. Yes the 150 points was Gretzky induced but he also had two other 100 point seasons and a 95 point year. All years were relatively high on the scoring charts those years so it isn't as if he didn't have some big years.

I came here to post Kovalev's name since it was the first one that popped into my head. Definitely underacheived in his career, no doubt. Still hard to believe he had that many points though, playing 20 years helps I guess.

Two players also come to mind. Jason Arnott has 938 points. Never more than 76 in a season. Not sure if he'll get to 1000, but he's close. Scott Stevens had over 900 points in his career if you can believe it.
Stevens was quite the offensive dman back in his days as a Cap. He became known as the big hitting machine he is with the Devils.

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I keep forgetting about Vinnie Damphousse's peak, where he was close to a 40 goal scorer and going over 90 points a season, but I'm still somewhat surprised that he scored over 1200 points. If you would have asked me for an estimated guess, I would have said around 1000-1050.

Al MacInnis surprises me a little too. Wouldn't have expected 1274 points. To think he probably could have played another 2 seasons too if he didn't have the problems with his vision. Post-lockout MacInnis probably would have added another 100 points over 2-3 seasons to his career totals.
Damphousse was my idea as well.

Or how about Pat Verbeek?

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Ray Whitney is really underrated. The only active forwards with more points are Jagr, Selanne, Thornton, Aldredsson, and Iginla.
I don't know if it's so much that he is under rated.

There were times in his career when teams decided to part with him for little or no return and he has never been a difference maker or one of the top 20 players in the league either.

He has had a long career and is aging well.

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