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04-18-2013, 10:29 PM
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You're exact words were >>>>>

Now, before the injury Gretzky was scoring in the 31-41 goals a season range.

I'm going to ask you again: Was Gretzky or was Gretzky NOT much of a goal scoring threat before the injury? This isn't hard and does not require spin or hemming and hawing: Are you claiming that 31-41 goals in a season is not a goal scoring threat? Answer the freaking question already!
I have done so, twice now with context.

You still haven't addressed , even once, how he would get those extra 104 goals.

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So ummmm....anything major happen with Gretzky 3 years before the Suter hit


Also 108 goals spread over 8 seasons is only 13-14 goals a season AND without the Suter hit, there‘s the real possibility that it wouldn‘t be just 8 more seasons.

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I have done so, twice now with context.

You still haven't addressed , even once, how he would get those extra 104 goals.
It's a simple yes or no answer. Is someone who scores 31-41 goals in a season a goal scoring threat: YES OR NO?

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So ummmm....anything major happen with Gretzky 3 years before the Suter hit
Hell, I just want a simple yes or no answer from the guy ffs

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Hell, I just want a simple yes or no answer from the guy ffs
Good luck. That would require the goal posts to stay in the same spot for more than one post

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Good luck. That would require the goal posts to stay in the same spot for more than one post
It just isn't that hard

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So ummmm....anything major happen with Gretzky 3 years before the Suter hit
Well yes actually he was playing with a new team and line mates in 89, 90, 91 in LA

Those line mates, the year before Wayne joined them had this line in 88

Luc age 21 80-53-58-111
Nicholls age 26 65-32-46-78

Wayne's linemates in Edmonton in 88 had

Kurri age 27 43-53-96
Anderson 27 80 38-50-88

Not entirely sure who was on LW with Edmonton for the entire season maybe it was Tik, anderson was the highest scoring winger after Kurri though.

What was your point again?

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Hell, I just want a simple yes or no answer from the guy ffs
What is this a court of law?

You seem to be interested in scoring points by asking a "please show us how high you could raise your arm before the injury" question.

I'm interested in how Wayne aged and have answered your question 2 times now and will add a 3rd context to it.

It's not often that any player increases their goal scoring rates after the age of their 29 and 30 year old seasons rates. It would be the exception that proves the rule.

Now instead of asking for a 4th time a question I have answered 3 times suggest how Wayne scores another 104 goals post injury.

My guess is that you can't and are in a box thus the deflection, once again.

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What is this a court of law?

You seem to be interested in scoring points by asking a "please show us how high you could raise your arm before the injury" question.

I'm interested in how Wayne aged and have answered your question 2 times now and will add a 3rd context to it.

It's not often that any player increases their goal scoring rates after the age of their 29 and 30 year old seasons rates. It would be the exception that proves the rule.

Now instead of asking for a 4th time a question I have answered 3 times suggest how Wayne scores another 104 goals post injury.

My guess is that you can't and are in a box thus the deflection, once again.
I'm interested is seeing you either defend or retract your claim that Gretzky wasn't a goal scoring threat before the Suter hit.

Before the Suter hit Gretzky was scoring between 31 and 41 goals a season. Therefore your statement is claiming that someone who scores between 31 and 41 goals a season is not a scoring threat.

So I'm asking you straight up, yes or no: Is someone who score between 31 and 41 goals in a season a goal scoring threat? If no please defend that claim. Or do you wish to retract it?

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So ummmm....anything major happen with Gretzky 3 years before the Suter hit


Also 108 goals spread over 8 seasons is only 13-14 goals a season AND without the Suter hit, there‘s the real possibility that it wouldn‘t be just 8 more seasons.
It's highly likely it would need to be close to 20 goals per season at the beginning as the NHL scoring rate went down in the mid 90's and beyond.

It's not like the 104 goals would be evenly spread.

Like I said he scored 38 in 94, are you suggesting he hits over 50 if not for the hit? Pretty unlikely given the goal scoring decline before the hit.

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I'm interested is seeing you either defend or retract your claim that Gretzky wasn't a goal scoring threat before the Suter hit.

Before the Suter hit Gretzky was scoring between 31 and 41 goals a season. Therefore your statement is claiming that someone who scores between 31 and 41 goals a season is not a scoring threat.

So I'm asking you straight up, yes or no: Is someone who score between 31 and 41 goals in a season a goal scoring threat? If no please defend that claim. Or do you wish to retract it?
Answered 3 times with context, if you don't like the answers then I can't help you as it seems doubt full that you are even interested in debating if Wayne could score 1000 goals as you have brought zero to the table on that question or assertion.

Your answer will no doubt show your motivations in this regard.

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Answered 3 times with context, if you don't like the answers then I can't help you as it seems doubt full that you are even interested in debating if Wayne could score 1000 goals as you have brought zero to the table on that question or assertion.

Your answer will no doubt show your motivations in this regard.
Yes

Or

No

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Yes

Or

No
Thank you for answering and showing your interest here.

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Thank you for answering and showing your interest here.
Yes

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No

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I'm interested in you answering the damn question.

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I'm interested in you answering the damn question.
I have answered it like what 3 times now with context and you haven't done so in kind even once.

Your lack of manners in demanding your type of answer isn't going to change my answer.

Go look at his goals per game rate and how it was declining before the injury and then make the case for 104 more goals.

http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...gretzwa01.html

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I have answered it like what 3 times now with context and you haven't done so in kind even once.

Your lack of manners in demanding your type of answer isn't going to change my answer.

Go look at his goals per game rate and how it was declining before the injury and then make the case for 104 more goals.

http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...gretzwa01.html
I have yet to see a yes or no answer from you.

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I have yet to see a yes or no answer from you.
And you won't, as I gave my answer 3 times with context.

Your lack of any, reasonable or otherwise, scenario where Wayne scores 1000 pretty much indicates that there probably isn't one.

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