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04-19-2013, 08:05 PM
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don't have to. I'm confident in my proclamations. I've been right about PK and Eller.

I love the 'realist' stance. What's the fun in undershooting a player's potential on your favourite team? Go out on a limb! It's fun!

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04-19-2013, 08:21 PM
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People acting like John Tavares or Taylor Hall are gods or something. Why can't we compare Gally's ceiling to theirs, it's not a stretch at all. He's going to be amazing and fans are excited.

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People acting like John Tavares or Taylor Hall are gods or something. Why can't we compare Gally's ceiling to theirs, it's not a stretch at all. He's going to be amazing and fans are excited.
Totally agree, AG27 can become as good or better than these guys including Seguin, Nugent-Hopkins.

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When was the last time we had a rookie having a season like Galchenyuk's?

And Gallagher's is arguably better.


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When was the last time we had a rookie having a season like Galchenyuk's?

And Gallagher's is arguably better.

Ryder in 2003-2004 had a better season than either of them. Price probably and one could make a case for Subban's rookie season.

Nevertheless, very impressed with Gallagher and Galchenyuk. We have one superstar and one THORN on any opposition's side.

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People acting like John Tavares or Taylor Hall are gods or something. Why can't we compare Gally's ceiling to theirs, it's not a stretch at all. He's going to be amazing and fans are excited.
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Totally agree, AG27 can become as good or better than these guys including Seguin, Nugent-Hopkins.
Yes and yes.

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Ryder in 2003-2004 had a better season than either of them. Price probably and one could make a case for Subban's rookie season.

AGe matters.

Nevertheless, very impressed with Gallagher and Galchenyuk. We have one superstar and one THORN on any opposition's side.
Ryder was 23 when his rookie season started, Subban 21, Price and Gallagher 20 and Galchenyuk 18.

When Ryder was TWO years older than Galchenyuk, he was playing in the East Coast League.

Due to birth date, Tavares played his 18 year old year in the OHL. Galchenyuk was outscoring him in PPG earlier this year in the OHL.

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People acting like John Tavares or Taylor Hall are gods or something. Why can't we compare Gally's ceiling to theirs, it's not a stretch at all. He's going to be amazing and fans are excited.
Tavares has been top 10 in scoring for back to back seasons in his 3rd and 4th seasons post draft. Hall is current top 10 in pts/game (on pace for 90+ points) in his 3rd season post draft.

If Galcheyuk could reach that level after next season then I sure as hell can't wait.

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Hall is a 65 point player, not a 90+ pace BS. He'll probably get around 70 tops next year. Galchenyuk could definately be a top 10 scorer too.

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Tavares has been top 10 in scoring for back to back seasons in his 3rd and 4th seasons post draft. Hall is current top 10 in pts/game (on pace for 90+ points) in his 3rd season post draft.
Cmon Wats... don't bring in these facts that don't agree with the homerism.

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Hall is a 65 point player, not a 90+ pace BS. He'll probably get around 70 tops next year. Galchenyuk could definately be a top 10 scorer too.
0.96 pts/game over the past 2 seasons (seasons #2 and #3 of his career). Nothing wrong with hoping Galchenyuk reaches a certain level but no reason to belittle other players.

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Hall is a 65 point player, not a 90+ pace BS. He'll probably get around 70 tops next year. Galchenyuk could definately be a top 10 scorer too.
Oh come on, hall is not a 65 point player he put up 53 points in 61 games last year and he's tearing it up right now unless he gets injured he will definitely get 70 points next year and will be a ppg player for most of his career. People need to stop overrating our players by bashing other players like hall and Tavares. Galchenyuk is a very good player don't get me wrong but wait until he's got at least a season or two under his belt before you set expectations for him.

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04-19-2013, 11:56 PM
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Oh come on, hall is not a 65 point player he put up 53 points in 61 games last year and he's tearing it up right now unless he gets injured he will definitely get 70 points next year and will be a ppg player for most of his career. People need to stop overrating our players by bashing other players like hall and Tavares. Galchenyuk is a very good player don't get me wrong but wait until he's got at least a season or two under his belt before you set expectations for him.
I agree with all of this... Way too many homers on here.

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Ryder was 23 when his rookie season started, Subban 21, Price and Gallagher 20 and Galchenyuk 18.

When Ryder was TWO years older than Galchenyuk, he was playing in the East Coast League.

Due to birth date, Tavares played his 18 year old year in the OHL. Galchenyuk was outscoring him in PPG earlier this year in the OHL.
What held Ryder back wasn't his skill but his poor skating. Once he improved in that, he catapulted up.

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Can I just say that the 8:21 ice time Chucky got was a result of MT trying to shut down the Stamkos line with Plex. He normally gets 12+ min. per night so please relax.

As for his limited ice time, I get the feeling this will come as a huge advantage come playoffs. We have a really good 3rd line that can be a 2nd line that's super rested and can take over a game against a worn down opposition come playoff time.
I have posted on this already. I think Habs secret weapon this PO is rookies.

Gally, Chucky and yes, Dumont. Young legs, tons of energy.

Not many teams are bringing three kids like this into the PO.

And in the PO, what the hell, you drop the first 2 games, no time for caution, play the rookies. Let them loose.

I seriously think this might happen this year.

I'm also a bit surprised that there is not more Dumont love on this board. I love this guy, always have. He's looking like a young Carbo to me right now. Junior goal scorer, tough, Chez nous, and good on D. Watch out for him in the PO.


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Galchenyuk and Gallagher haven't proven much yet, definitely not in the same conversation as Hall, Tavares etc. Totally different level of player.

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04-20-2013, 03:22 AM
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Galchenyuk and Gallagher haven't proven much yet, definitely not in the same conversation as Hall, Tavares etc. Totally different level of player.
Why? Have not seen any of them in the PO yet and Gally and Chucky will do that this year. That matters. Tavares will be in the PO also, and he will also benefit.

Hall and RNH will not, again. It matters.

I put Chucky in the same conversation as Hall and RNH right now. He has faced huge pressure in MTL already, unlike them, and now he will get PO experience.

In fact, Hall and RNH will have catching up to do next year.

I cannot believe Oil has tanked again. It's ****ing unacceptable.

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04-20-2013, 04:23 AM
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I have posted on this already. I think Habs secret weapon this PO is rookies.

Gally, Chucky and yes, Dumont. Young legs, tons of energy.

Not many teams are bringing three kids like this into the PO.

And in the PO, what the hell, you drop the first 2 games, no time for caution, play the rookies. Let them loose.

I seriously think this might happen this year.

I'm also a bit surprised that there is not more Dumont love on this board. I love this guy, always have. He's looking like a young Carbo to me right now. Junior goal scorer, tough, Chez nous, and good on D. Watch out for him in the PO.
Dumont won't be playing if everyone is healthy. Comparing him to Carbonneau who was the greatest shutdown center in the history of the game is beyond ridiculous. Ask your average Hab fan in ten years about what they think about Gabriel Dumont.......many of them won't even know who he is.

I love Dumont's approach to the game but he has limited skills that just don't compensate for his lack of size. He will likely be a journeyman who spends more time in the AHL than the NHL.

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Hall is a 65 point player, not a 90+ pace BS. He'll probably get around 70 tops next year. Galchenyuk could definately be a top 10 scorer too.
if our retarded coach lets him play

ABSOLUTELY TOP 10

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Dumont won't be playing if everyone is healthy. Comparing him to Carbonneau who was the greatest shutdown center in the history of the game is beyond ridiculous. Ask your average Hab fan in ten years about what they think about Gabriel Dumont.......many of them won't even know who he is.

I love Dumont's approach to the game but he has limited skills that just don't compensate for his lack of size. He will likely be a journeyman who spends more time in the AHL than the NHL.
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Dumont won't be playing if everyone is healthy. Comparing him to Carbonneau who was the greatest shutdown center in the history of the game is beyond ridiculous. Ask your average Hab fan in ten years about what they think about Gabriel Dumont.......many of them won't even know who he is.

I love Dumont's approach to the game but he has limited skills that just don't compensate for his lack of size. He will likely be a journeyman who spends more time in the AHL than the NHL.
I grew up in the CARBO era , maybe the best shutdown center ever

played both ends of the rink , and if let loose would be a 60 point player

Dumont is a dime a dozen filler , if we are healthy , he will never play full time with us

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Oh come on, hall is not a 65 point player he put up 53 points in 61 games last year and he's tearing it up right now unless he gets injured he will definitely get 70 points next year and will be a ppg player for most of his career. People need to stop overrating our players by bashing other players like hall and Tavares. Galchenyuk is a very good player don't get me wrong but wait until he's got at least a season or two under his belt before you set expectations for him.
That's the thing. He's never going to be not injured, his play style doesn't allow it. He'll be retired before he hits free agency.

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That's the thing. He's never going to be not injured, his play style doesn't allow it. He'll be retired before he hits free agency.
That is a pile of nonsense. You clearly don't know anything about how Taylor Hall plays.

He is less physical than Getzlaf and Ovechkin and both of them have put up multiple seasons in the top ten in scoring. He plays a very similar style to Pacioretty and has been the victim of some bad luck. Did his "style of play" cause his face to get hit by a teammates skate in the pre-game skate......

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He has really been pilling on the points recently. If he continues to gain points at this rate, he may end up at the top of the scoring rookie race. However, he only plays like 8 minutes a game, and hasn't had a huge impact on the team's success.

If he continues his scoring streak, and helps the Habs win some games, do you think he has enough for rookie of the year? Even with his long drought?

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