HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Western Conference > Central Division > St. Louis Blues
Notices

Game 45: Blues at Colorado –*Blues playoff magic number is 2

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
04-21-2013, 12:29 AM
  #1
PocketNines
Only a 2 year window
 
PocketNines's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Crested Butte, CO
Posts: 9,298
vCash: 50
Game 45: Blues at Colorado –*Blues playoff magic number is 2

Playoffs.

PocketNines is offline  
Old
04-21-2013, 12:41 AM
  #2
CitizenSnips
TheFightingMongooses
 
CitizenSnips's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: St. Louis
Country: United States
Posts: 402
vCash: 500
This is too much information to absorb in just 1 GDT

My brain hurts

CitizenSnips is offline  
Old
04-21-2013, 12:50 AM
  #3
PocketNines
Only a 2 year window
 
PocketNines's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Crested Butte, CO
Posts: 9,298
vCash: 50
It actually is too much for some people. JR's just-published story only talks of vague getting close, though no Saturday data was required for the Blues' magic number to be two, as Blues, Columbus and Dallas were all idle. Over at the Asylum (I peeked out of curiosity) they think the magic number is three

Blues, Columbus (1) and Dallas (2) all play Sunday. Even if the Blues lose there's a reasonably good chance they clinch the playoffs, as Columbus is in San Jose and Dallas is in LA.

The magic number is three (with Detroit) to clinch 7th and avoid Chicago in round 1. However, if the Blues win with an ROW Sunday, they clinch at least 7th also, as that would clinch the Blues over Detroit in any tiebreak scenario.

PocketNines is offline  
Old
04-21-2013, 03:07 AM
  #4
erderuft
Registered User
 
erderuft's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Borεs, Sweden
Country: Sweden
Posts: 378
vCash: 50
Haven't really paid any closer attention to Colorado this year. Had heard that their D was pretty bad offensively this year, but had no idea just how horrible they'd really been.

Colorado has gotten a massive 3 (freakin' three) goals from their D so far this season. That's all of their defensemen, combined. Their highest point producing defenseman is Tyson Barrie with a massive 12 points. He has 2 of those 3 goals.

What of EJ? He's pretty good, right? A difference maker? Well, over 30 games he has all of 0 goals on 62 shots, 4 assists and is -3. Wow.

Let's win this game.

erderuft is offline  
Old
04-21-2013, 03:24 AM
  #5
Bluesman91
Registered User
 
Bluesman91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 4,625
vCash: 2357
Colorado always manages to squiggle their way through us somehow.

Bluesman91 is offline  
Old
04-21-2013, 03:32 AM
  #6
BlueDream
Registered User
 
BlueDream's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Country: United States
Posts: 6,735
vCash: 500
It sure is nice getting offense from your d-men. I believe the Canucks, Blues and Sharks all lead the NHL in goals from defensemen.

BlueDream is offline  
Old
04-21-2013, 06:02 AM
  #7
JustOneB4IDie
Everyone Overpayment
 
JustOneB4IDie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: St. Louis MO
Country: United States
Posts: 3,367
vCash: 50
Goals.

Go Blues!


Last edited by JustOneB4IDie: 04-21-2013 at 06:44 AM.
JustOneB4IDie is offline  
Old
04-21-2013, 08:50 AM
  #8
Thallis
We suck again!
 
Thallis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Behind Blue Eyes
Country: United States
Posts: 3,046
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to Thallis


Playoffs?!?

Thallis is offline  
Old
04-21-2013, 10:08 AM
  #9
Dolph Ziggler
IC Champion
 
Dolph Ziggler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: St. Louis, MO
Country: United States
Posts: 8,607
vCash: 50
Colorado is like the Caterpie who inexplicably kills your Squirtle (obviously us) after your attacks continue to miss.

Dolph Ziggler is offline  
Old
04-21-2013, 10:22 AM
  #10
CarvinSigX
Registered User
 
CarvinSigX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Illinois
Country: United States
Posts: 7,923
vCash: 2616
Quote:
Originally Posted by Falco Lombardi View Post
Colorado is like the Caterpie who inexplicably kills your Squirtle (obviously us) after your attacks continue to miss.
Who plays the role of Nurse Joy?

CarvinSigX is online now  
Old
04-21-2013, 10:44 AM
  #11
Linus
Registered User
 
Linus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: St. Louis
Country: United States
Posts: 586
vCash: 50
I'm too lazy to look up the last time the Blues won in Denver, but it's been way too long.

Linus is offline  
Old
04-21-2013, 10:52 AM
  #12
Dolph Ziggler
IC Champion
 
Dolph Ziggler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: St. Louis, MO
Country: United States
Posts: 8,607
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by CarvinSigX View Post
Who plays the role of Nurse Joy?
Hopefully it's Brian Elliott.

Better yet, he can play the role of Potion, who gets you back those 20 HP points to give you another chance.

2-0 with a 0.97 GAA in his last 2 starts against the Avalanche.

Dolph Ziggler is offline  
Old
04-21-2013, 10:54 AM
  #13
CarvinSigX
Registered User
 
CarvinSigX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Illinois
Country: United States
Posts: 7,923
vCash: 2616
Quote:
Originally Posted by Falco Lombardi View Post
Hopefully it's Brian Elliott.

Better yet, he can play the role of Potion, who gets you back those 20 HP points to give you another chance.

2-0 with a 0.97 GAA in his last 2 starts against the Avalanche.
That works. As long as they don't cast the Hustler Club as the Pokecenter, we're good.

CarvinSigX is online now  
Old
04-21-2013, 11:03 AM
  #14
PocketNines
Only a 2 year window
 
PocketNines's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Crested Butte, CO
Posts: 9,298
vCash: 50
Went back further into the numbers and scenarios. Because Dallas and Detroit play head to head in their final game, the magic number has an asterisk. First of all, 1 point eliminates Columbus from catching the Blues. And since Detroit and Dallas play each other, it's impossible for both to pass the Blues all tied at 55 points. Detroit would lose a tiebreaker at 55 points since the max they could get is 55pts, 21ROW at that number, and the Blues hold the next tiebreaker which is head to head. Dallas must win out to get to 55 points and while they would likely have the tiebreaker (need only two of those wins to be ROW), this would mean the max Detroit could get in such a scenario is also 55 points, but they would lose the tiebreaker.

So, the bottom line is one point earned by the Blues gets them into the playoffs, but it's a little different than saying the magic number is 1. Because if the Blues lose in regulation tonight and Dallas loses in OT (which would be 1 against the magic number), Dallas can still win a tiebreaker at 54 and Detroit can get to 55 even if they lose in OT to Dallas.

They still need a ROW to clinch at least 7th. If the Blues win tonight in shooutout (56pts, 21ROW), Detroit could still get to 56 with 22ROW.

PocketNines is offline  
Old
04-21-2013, 11:15 AM
  #15
Steve Doan
Re-sign Elliott
 
Steve Doan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Eureka
Country: Tuvalu
Posts: 9,743
vCash: 50
God I hope olver is playing for them..... Payback time from tarasenko.

Steve Doan is online now  
Old
04-21-2013, 11:51 AM
  #16
MattyMo35
Moderator
Schwartz Be With You
 
MattyMo35's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: St. Louis, MO
Country: United States
Posts: 7,120
vCash: 50
Go Blues. This feels like a game that we fail to show up for whatever reason.

MattyMo35 is offline  
Old
04-21-2013, 12:05 PM
  #17
PocketNines
Only a 2 year window
 
PocketNines's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Crested Butte, CO
Posts: 9,298
vCash: 50
Just a heads up, the tweets you're seeing from Kerber, JR and the Blues' official twitter feed itself are all wrong. They all say Blues need to earn two points to clinch. That is factually untrue. One point earned by the Blues will clinch, as explained above. But it's an asymmetrical magic number because one point tonight failed to be earned by Dallas does NOT clinch. So magic number technically 2, but only 1 if the Blues affirmatively earn it.

PocketNines is offline  
Old
04-21-2013, 12:12 PM
  #18
Blanick
Winter is coming
 
Blanick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 2,680
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve French View Post
God I hope olver is playing for them..... Payback time from tarasenko.
I do hope Reaver gets a couple of nice CLEAN hits in on him but to me the sweetest payback would be Tarasenko hattrick. Awaken the beast right before the playoffs please.



Edit: Holy **** I just realized that I have gone of 1,000 post. WOOT? I spend way too much time on here.

Blanick is offline  
Old
04-21-2013, 12:24 PM
  #19
Steve Doan
Re-sign Elliott
 
Steve Doan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Eureka
Country: Tuvalu
Posts: 9,743
vCash: 50

Steve Doan is online now  
Old
04-21-2013, 12:35 PM
  #20
PocketNines
Only a 2 year window
 
PocketNines's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Crested Butte, CO
Posts: 9,298
vCash: 50
As usual, Chris Kerber is digging in on math. I pointed out that only one point was needed and he told me I was wrong because the NHL says the Blues would need help. Hate to break it to you but the NHL is not to be trusted on math. Even less trusted are the writers and broadcasters trying to do math. I replied that he was still incorrect and would make any bet he liked.

PocketNines is offline  
Old
04-21-2013, 12:45 PM
  #21
Steve Doan
Re-sign Elliott
 
Steve Doan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Eureka
Country: Tuvalu
Posts: 9,743
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by PocketNines View Post
As usual, Chris Kerber is digging in on math. I pointed out that only one point was needed and he told me I was wrong because the NHL says the Blues would need help. Hate to break it to you but the NHL is not to be trusted on math. Even less trusted are the writers and broadcasters trying to do math. I replied that he was still incorrect and would make any bet he liked.
Yup. There's a thread on the business forum discussing how no NHL teams trust the league's stats, and that's why every arena has different criteria for stats. Kinda pathetic that a pro sports league cant be trusted for their own stats.

Steve Doan is online now  
Old
04-21-2013, 12:49 PM
  #22
PocketNines
Only a 2 year window
 
PocketNines's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Crested Butte, CO
Posts: 9,298
vCash: 50
54 pts, 21 ROW (regulation loss) – worst Blues can finish is 10th.
55 pts, 21 ROW (OT loss) – worst Blues can finish is 8th.
56 pts, 21 ROW (SO win) – worst Blues can finish is 8th.
56 pts, 22 ROW (ROW) – worst Blues can finish is 7th.

PocketNines is offline  
Old
04-21-2013, 12:51 PM
  #23
bleedblue1223
OMAHA!!!
 
bleedblue1223's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 19,892
vCash: 50
It's pretty amusing really since teams only have 3 or 4 games left and simple addition and counting shows that just 1 point will have us in the playoffs with no additional help.

bleedblue1223 is offline  
Old
04-21-2013, 12:59 PM
  #24
PocketNines
Only a 2 year window
 
PocketNines's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Crested Butte, CO
Posts: 9,298
vCash: 50
To Kerber's credit he got the DAL/DET wrinkle after I elaborated.

@chriskerber @nachofiesta very well done. Not even sure the league found that scenario. Amazing how complicated it really is.

PocketNines is offline  
Old
04-21-2013, 01:03 PM
  #25
bleedblue1223
OMAHA!!!
 
bleedblue1223's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 19,892
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by PocketNines View Post
To Kerber's credit he got the DAL/DET wrinkle after I elaborated.

@chriskerber @nachofiesta very well done. Not even sure the league found that scenario. Amazing how complicated it really is.
Saw that too, but more amazing how simple it is lol.

bleedblue1223 is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:50 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.