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04-19-2013, 10:26 PM
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We have PP struggles, you also might want to note our PP outproduces the Hawks. But a lot of that has to do with a 4-3 in overtime. If you don't look good in that scenario and get lower you have a problem.

But like I said bad example for a team

Chicago 15%
Detroit 17%
That actually blows my mind. I'm speechless.

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04-19-2013, 10:34 PM
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That actually blows my mind. I'm speechless.
Was pointed out the last time we played them. I know this the Hawks PP is like 100% if we are leading and the Wings take a penalty in the final 5 minutes over the last couple of years.

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04-19-2013, 10:39 PM
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Detroit has control of their own destiny, again.

Is winning the next two games too much to ask for?
Winning against Vancouver would salvage the road trip big time.

Then we need to take care of business at home

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04-19-2013, 11:09 PM
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Was pointed out the last time we played them. I know this the Hawks PP is like 100% if we are leading and the Wings take a penalty in the final 5 minutes over the last couple of years.
Ahh, was driving from Ottawa to Toronto during that game. Makes sense why that stat eluded me.

My jaw is still on the floor though.

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So you are of the opinion that the LA Kings didn't deserve to make it to the playoffs, let alone win the Stanley Cup last season? Am I getting this right?
That's what I think.

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So you are of the opinion that the LA Kings didn't deserve to make it to the playoffs, let alone win the Stanley Cup last season? Am I getting this right?

Yep, that's what I think

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Yep, that's what I think
So what does that say about the teams they beat?

This logic is astounding to me.

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04-20-2013, 10:17 AM
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So what does that say about the teams they beat?

This logic is astounding to me.
This entire conversation is based on the fact that you and Rickey got upset over the fact that someone called the Red Wings a sub.500 team.

LA Kings were over. 500 after hiring Darryl Sutter.
In fact, the Kings were 25-13-11 in 48 games. Hardly awesome.

But that 61 points in 48 games would probably be enough to win the NW this year or finish in the 4 to 6 slot in the west.

2. LA Kings were 9-5 to finish the season. Might have done better, too, but the playoffs were settled going into their final two games (0-0-2)

3. The Kings were a young, up and coming team.

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More often than not the team that wins the cup/makes a run isn't the absolute best team in the NHL. They just happen to be hot at the right time. Do I feel that the LA Kings were the best team in the west last year? No. Do I believe that the New Jersey Devils were the best in the east? No. But that was the Stanley Cup final.

It happens every year, LA last year, Montreal the year before, etc.

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This entire conversation is based on the fact that you and Rickey got upset over the fact that someone called the Red Wings a sub.500 team.

LA Kings were over. 500 after hiring Darryl Sutter.
In fact, the Kings were 25-13-11 in 48 games. Hardly awesome.

But that 61 points in 48 games would probably be enough to win the NW this year or finish in the 4 to 6 slot in the west.

2. LA Kings were 9-5 to finish the season. Might have done better, too, but the playoffs were settled going into their final two games (0-0-2)

3. The Kings were a young, up and coming team.
These reasons are irrelevant when multiple posters freely believe that team didn't deserve the playoffs or the championship.

And I didn't get upset. Not sure what gave you that idea. Actually I didn't even respond to him making a remark about the Wings being a sub .500 team. Just the silly idea that being under .500 (ignoring actual point percentage) means you aren't worthy of the playoffs.


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The Kings also made multiple impact trades last season, and ~half their games were played without those impact players on the team.

The Wings aren't waiting for their big guns to jell. These are the same guys they've had for years - if they're not jelling at this point, they ain't Jell-o.

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For the record I never tried to assert the Red Wings and Kings were comparable. Just arguing the idea that every team below ".500" doesn't deserve the playoffs. If you make it in, you earned it.

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04-21-2013, 11:34 AM
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We need the Sharks and Kings to come up big tonight, but with our luck their goalies will let in 4 softies a piece and the rest of their teams will look like AHLers.

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5 games to go. We need to win them. Get it done.

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04-21-2013, 01:21 PM
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5 games to go. We need to win them. Get it done.
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04-21-2013, 01:23 PM
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If we go 3-1 down the stretch, with a win in the Dallas game, we get in. Very possible.

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04-21-2013, 03:55 PM
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You can't depend on San Jose for anything... especially if it benefits us. I think CBJ smokes them.

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04-21-2013, 04:01 PM
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You can't depend on San Jose for anything... especially if it benefits us. I think CBJ smokes them.
They get Dallas next as well.

The Sharks have lost once in regulation at home all season to the Hawks. We need them to keep that up and preferably not add either Dallas or Columbus to the 5 overtime losses they already have.

But at 16-1-5 fighting for the right to have home ice over LA these games are very important. Only problem for us is LA has similar importance when they show up at the Joe next week, but if we could sneak that win while LA and San Jose do what is expected at home against our closest competition that would be absolutely huge. Really you have to like LA and San Jose winning at home they are among the very best in the league at it.

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Minnesota just lost in regulation. They're 3 points up, and we have a game in hand. Not likely that we catch them, but still within reach.

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Minnesota just lost in regulation. They're 3 points up, and we have a game in hand. Not likely that we catch them, but still within reach.
Wing's aren't catching anyone if they can't win any of their games.

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Wing's aren't catching anyone if they can't win any of their games.
ummmm....thanks for your wonderful insight. Obviosuly Wings wont catch anyone if they dont win their own games...

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04-21-2013, 07:40 PM
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Minnesota just lost in regulation. They're 3 points up, and we have a game in hand. Not likely that we catch them, but still within reach.
It is unlikely but that is not a confident hockey team. They get LA on Tuesday and because of how the schedules work think of this. The Wings can legitimately have assured making Minnesota have to win their last two games on Friday and Saturday to finish ahead of them, if they win all their home games this week. Would be a lot of pressure on that team.

Don't see the Wings doing it to them though, just pointing out they have an interesting schedule.

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Wild slipping, hmmm.

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Jackets up 1-0

Wings are a disgrace if they lose out on the final spot to the Jackets.

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The more I watch the jackets the more realize that the jackets rely on their goalie to carry them. And will fall to Earth if he can't get it done.

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