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04-20-2013, 03:12 PM
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Most organizations aren't blessed with the Anderson/Lehner tandem. Ottawa are second in the league for goals against. We all know Ottawa aren't a play-off contender for goal scoring.
4th in GF last year, im sure you know what your talking about.

Before I leave this thread....

Goaltending
Ottawa>>>>Edmonton

Defense
Ottawa>>Edmonton

Forwards

First line
Edmonton>Ottawa

Second line
Edmonton = Ottawa

Third line
Ottawa>>Edmonton

Fourth Line
Ottawa>Edmonton

Intangibles
Ottawa>Edmonton

In Conclusion, Ottawa is a playoff team despite having most of the core being fairly young and stars being injured. Edmonton is very young and highly skilled up front but lacks depth, grit and toughness as a result being in the bottom of the league the past few years and missing the playoffs again this year.

This is ridiculous. You can hate me all you like


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Definitely, the sens have the luxury of having a norris winner and good goaltending duo to build around, oilers dont have that, the sens have a better D and goaltending than the oilers right now , so young guys like gryba, wiercoch and in the future ceci will not be rushed and will get sheltered minutes and that speaks for the sens defensive depth. Im pretty sure it would be better for J. Schultz development if he isnt relied as much than the oilers have. He is a young guy, in his first nhl season and he is already the main offensive dman of the oilers. For a guy like him it would e better for his development if he got sheltered minutes similar to wiercoch, unfortunately for him the oilers dont have a guy like gonchar to mentor him or help him with his development.
You don't give Justin Schultz sheltered minutes, look at the calibre of hockey he plays. You give him minutes to help improve his game, he is on the path to elite.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/...n-schultz.html

34 games was enough for him to win the Eddie Shore Award. Justin Schultz is also first rookie in the 55-year history to win defenceman of the year.

You wonder why the OP was interested in Methot to Edmonton.


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04-20-2013, 03:13 PM
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Considering all of Edmonton's d-men are better than Ottawa's d-men (aside from Karlsson), I have no idea why this thread was created.

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Most organizations aren't blessed with the Anderson/Lehner tandem. Ottawa are second in the league for goals against. We all know Ottawa aren't a play-off contender for goal scoring.
Ottawa was 4th in goal scoring last season.

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Most organizations aren't blessed with the Anderson/Lehner tandem. Ottawa are second in the league for goals against. We all know Ottawa aren't a play-off contender for goal scoring.
Okay...they still have three 22 year old defensemen who are NHL regulars. You were arguing that they dont have much coming up on the blueline. My argument is simple. When you have three 22 year old defensemen that are NHL regulars, that takes away from the whats coming up the pipeline. Not to mention thats 3 spots filled.

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well he isn't for trade.

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http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/...n-schultz.html

34 games was enough for him to win the Eddie Shore Award. Justin Schultz is also first rookie in the 55-year history to win defenceman of the year.

You wonder why the OP was interested in Methot to Edmonton.


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4th in GF last year, im sure you know what your talking about
definitely, 26th for GF this season.

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04-20-2013, 03:18 PM
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Methot is sick. He's like Suter minus the production. He's honestly about on par with Phillips circa '06-'07 (when he was the #1 on our finals run). He is absolutely a #2-3 defenceman, and he's an ideal partner for Karlsson because he is so strong defensively yet skates and plays the puck quickly enough to fit seamlessly into an up-tempo system. Right now he's better than Cowen (not that it matters, we'll keep both).

Ottawa's task in the up-coming seasons is to fill the void left by Gonchar (Phillips is bottom-pairing-calibre at this point and won't be hard to replace). If they get a top-notch guy to fit in with Karlsson, Cowen and Methot then the blue-line will be elite. If not it'll be good but not spectacular. Dealing Methot would just be a step backwards for no reason.

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04-20-2013, 03:20 PM
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This should be locked - no point is discussing this any further.

Methot is probably going to be a Senator for a very long time.

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I'm assuming Murray is hoping for something like this on the blueline in 2 years:

Karlsson - Methot
Ceci - Cowen
Wiercioch - x

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definitely, 26th for GF this season.


Keep grasping at straws dude. Why don't you respond to the comments instead of looking at stats in a season where the Sens were basically missing their top three offensive players and their number 1 goaltender.
They are still in a playoff spot. Far more than you can say for the not so mighty Oilers.


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definitely, 26th for GF this season.
with our top 3 offensive players injured for long periods of time.

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with our top 3 offensive players injured for long periods of time.
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This should be locked - no point is discussing this any further.

Methot is probably going to be a Senator for a very long time.

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I'm assuming Murray is hoping for something like this on the blueline in 2 years:

Karlsson - Methot
Ceci - Cowen
Wiercioch - x
Cowen is a LD
Methot is a LD

Karlsson is a RD
Ceci is a RD.

Please get that right.

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You don't give Justin Schultz sheltered minutes, look at the calibre of hockey he plays. You give him minutes to help improve his game, he is on the path to elite.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/...n-schultz.html

34 games was enough for him to win the Eddie Shore Award. Justin Schultz is also first rookie in the 55-year history to win defenceman of the year.

You wonder why the OP was interested in Methot to Edmonton.
All that, and he's a whole week younger than Old Man Karlsson. You're right, we're on the path to the decline with our fading stars. Damn.

I'm curious, if you don't actually watch Methot play, then why did you make a thread asking what it would take for Edmonton to acquire him?

You not watching him play is the only logical explanation for what has transpired in this thread.

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definitely, 26th for GF this season.
Edmonton is 20th with all their young superstars. What happened there?

I guess the drop from 20th to 26th (and the 50 seconds per game more on the PP) explains the 5 extra points Schultz got over Wiercioch. Blistering pace, that.

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I guess the drop from 20th to 26th (and the 50 seconds per game more on the PP) explains the 5 extra points Schultz got over Wiercioch. Blistering pace, that.
You want to compare Schultz and Wierioch's offensive game?

http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/201...ustin-schultz/

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Cowen is a LD
Methot is a LD

Karlsson is a RD
Ceci is a RD.

Please get that right.
That changes absolutely nothing about the post. The pairs could still be the same. Talk about being anal. Worse than a grammar nazi, lol.

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You want to compare Schultz and Wierioch's offensive game?
You want to compare Schultz' and Karlsson's?

Way to ignore everything else. Tell me, why isn't Schultz getting the most minutes amongst d-men in Edmonton? Just how many elite d-men do they have over there? I'm sure you'll find another blog post by the homertastic Oilers media that will dissect that into great detail.

This thread is done. The original question has been answered.

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You want to compare Schultz' and Karlsson's?

Way to ignore everything else. Tell me, why isn't Schultz getting the most minutes amongst d-men in Edmonton? Just how many elite d-men do they have over there? I'm sure you'll find another blog post by the homertastic Oilers media that will dissect that into great detail.

This thread is done. The original question has been answered.
Because he's a rookie and this is his first season playing pro, let alone NHL hockey.

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Edmonton is 20th with all their young superstars. What happened there?
Stronger goaltending in the west. Less goals scored in the west due to strong defence/goaltending.

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Home town guy who has fit in seemlessly and was just acquired. With Phillips and Gonchar leaving within a season or two I don't see Ottawa moving him for anything less than an over payment. They'd probably want a top four defenseman back which makes it an undesirable trade for the Oilers considering their blue line right now.
I would love to look at a trade proposal that we could get through the first 3 posts without someone saying the player would require an overpayment. What a joke. Not every 2 bit player in the league requires an over payment folks.

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I would love to look at a trade proposal that we could get through the first 3 posts without someone saying the player would require an overpayment. What a joke. Not every 2 bit player in the league requires an over payment folks.
Ever heard of an incentive? Methot wont be traded for the sake of being traded.

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I would love to look at a trade proposal that we could get through the first 3 posts without someone saying the player would require an overpayment. What a joke. Not every 2 bit player in the league requires an over payment folks.
Mark Fistric is untouchable in Edmonton. Hometown hero!!

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Mark Fistric is untouchable in Edmonton. Hometown hero!!
If he's the perfect fit, then sure if that's how you feel.

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