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If you had to choose: Trade Schneider or Buy-Out Luongo?

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04-21-2013, 03:25 AM
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It's real easy to spend millions of dollars when it's not your own, I doubt it happens.
It's really easy to decide what someone might do with millions of dollars when most people will never see that kind of money in their lives as well.

I doubt a Luongo buyout happens, because he's still a top-tier goaltender in the NHL. But i'd have a hard time supporting the team owned by someone who wouldn't spend a tiny fraction of their wealth on making their NHL team significantly better.

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04-21-2013, 03:36 AM
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As an Nuck owner, Im telling my GM to trade Schneider. 27M is 27M.

As a Nuck fan, it aint your money, so buyout is obvious.

Owner wins everytime. Schneider will be traded.

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04-21-2013, 03:41 AM
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I think the decision will be made by the owner, Aquilini. Gillis basically need to go to the owner and ask him if ownership is willing to spend $24M over 18 years to correct his "mistake".

Considering the operating income of the Canucks in 2012 is only $30.4M, I highly doubt the owner is willing to pay up.

Aquilini will probably tell Gillis to trade Luongo or Schneider. I can't imagine buyout being an option.

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04-21-2013, 03:48 AM
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Not going to lie, I'd be pretty down right heartbroken if we traded Schneids


Seriously, I think Luongo can garner something in a trade. Trading Schneider should be absolutely the last resort.

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Aquilini will probably tell Gillis to trade Luongo or Schneider. I can't imagine buyout being an option.
Here is the issue---what team in their right mind trades for Luongo and that contract without VAN eating some of it.

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04-21-2013, 03:55 AM
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Here is the issue---what team in their right mind trades for Luongo and that contract without VAN eating some of it.
Also which teami in their right mind is going to trade for Luongo before UFA when they can look at signing a goalie with a better contract, make Vancouver sweat, and as well look at trading for Schneider instead.

Vancouver is in an extremely rough spot, especially with no guarantee Schneider re-signs with Vancouver.


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Here is the issue---what team in their right mind trades for Luongo and that contract without VAN eating some of it.
Any team that would be in the running for one of the top UFA goalies.

Mike Smith is asking for $49M over 7. Howard just re-signed for 6 years, $31.8M. Look at Bryz's contract (most recent big UFA goalie signing)...I would take Luongo with his contract over any of those options.

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04-21-2013, 02:13 PM
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Any team that would be in the running for one of the top UFA goalies.

Mike Smith is asking for $49M over 7. Howard just re-signed for 6 years, $31.8M. Look at Bryz's contract (most recent big UFA goalie signing)...I would take Luongo with his contract over any of those options.
Those guys aren't signed until they will be 44 years old.

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04-21-2013, 02:29 PM
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Those guys aren't signed until they will be 44 years old.
Neither is Luongo.

He'll be 42 in his last year

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04-21-2013, 04:48 PM
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Any team that would be in the running for one of the top UFA goalies.

Mike Smith is asking for $49M over 7. Howard just re-signed for 6 years, $31.8M. Look at Bryz's contract (most recent big UFA goalie signing)...I would take Luongo with his contract over any of those options.
Nabokov has played well
Bernier has played well
Khudobin has played well
Hiller could be available
That doesn't include the logjam in St Louis or Fucale in the draft
Even Calgary has Raimo and Gibson as prospects
People talk TB but even without Bishop they have Vasilevski
Maybe NJ?
I don't see Vancouvers issue with trading Schneider and keeping Luongo.
I would love to hear Canucks fans reasoning since they tell us how great he is.

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Raymond, Roy and one of Booth or Ballard are gone anyways. We chose Higgins over Raymond and don't have the salary room for Roy. If Luongo stayed all four would have to go
All 4 are pretty much gone as it is. Canucks as it stands only have like 2-3 million in cap space with 9 players to sign.

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04-21-2013, 06:18 PM
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Lou is a great goalie, a truly elite caliber guy who any team that needs a #1 would be lucky to have.

That said, Schneider is who I would pick if I had to chose between the two. He is also a special talent who is younger and also on a cheaper contract at least for the time being.

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04-21-2013, 06:33 PM
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Buyout schneider trade luongo play lack = cup

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I'd have traded Schneider a couple of years ago when the return would have been much higher. Luongo's buyout is too massive for too long. And with some of the potential deals already leaked any offers in the future for Luongo will only be worse not better.

Luongo's on the top end of NHL goalies still. A whole team blows a chance to win a Stanley Cup not just one goalie.
This guys the winner, unfortunately its been proven that GMMG can't even give away LU. He was offered to the Leafs at the deadline for Ben scrivens and a 2nd and the leafs said no.

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It's really easy to decide what someone might do with millions of dollars when most people will never see that kind of money in their lives as well.

I doubt a Luongo buyout happens, because he's still a top-tier goaltender in the NHL. But i'd have a hard time supporting the team owned by someone who wouldn't spend a tiny fraction of their wealth on making their NHL team significantly better.
The thing is, these billionaires didn't get that status by making poor financial decisions. Why didn't he just stop after the first billion and start a store a la Louis CK's suggestion to Bill Gates? Because 1 Billion isn't enough to these guys, which is why he's worth much more than that.


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Best option would be the one that mixes a bit of each option.

Buy-out Schneider

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04-21-2013, 07:49 PM
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Best option would be the one that mixes a bit of each option.

Buy-out Schneider
There is a touch of genius about that.

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04-21-2013, 08:16 PM
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The Lightening should have picked him up instead of trading Conacher for Bishop.

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The thing is, these billionaires didn't get that status by making poor financial decisions. Why didn't he just stop after the first billion and start a store like ****tyasspet****ers a la Louis CK's suggestion to Bill Gates? Because 1 Billion isn't enough to these guys, which is why he's worth much more than that.
Most of his wealth is tied up in assets. 24 million in cash is still a lot of money for him, especially as he's going through a divorce.

Luongo is not being bought out this off season.

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Hypothetically speaking... you're the Nucks GM... and there's no trade for Lou... you can't even give him away... (hypothetically)

Do you trade Schneider for what is likely to be a very nice package?
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Do you buy-out Luongo and take the cap hit for the next 1000 years?
There's the amnesty buyout. But if one couldn't find any suiters for Luongo (and if they put him on waivers, someone would claim him), then you trade Schneider. It's smarter asset management.

As it is, if they lowered their asking price on Luongo, they could have traded him multiple times over already.

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I think Vancouver will end up taking salary back but buy out that salary. What are the dates for the cap dropping and the offseason buffer? Maybe they can give the salary they take back a shot in camp then do the buyout?


The problem with discussing a Schneider trade scenario (beyond th e obvious) is you don't know what players are being offered for Schneider

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As an Nuck owner, Im telling my GM to trade Schneider. 27M is 27M.

As a Nuck fan, it aint your money, so buyout is obvious.

Owner wins everytime. Schneider will be traded.
As a Canucks fan, Luongo's play+Schneider's return will beat Schneider's play+Lu's return if Luongo doesn't return a grandslam.

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Most of his wealth is tied up in assets. 24 million in cash is still a lot of money for him, especially as he's going through a divorce.
It wouldn't be a lump sum buyout. It's spread over the term of the contract. If by some miracle Luongo gets bought out, his buyout money + the team payroll next year would be less than the current payroll. He can afford it.

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Luongo is not being bought out this off season.
Agreed. Even if no one wants to trade for him he'd get picked up on waivers.

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Trade S. Van is not winning the cup with either so why pay out a billion dollars in a buyout. IMO

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Neither...Schneider is the now and the future, Luongo has trade value or someone would claim him on waivers. There will be no buyouts for Lu.

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