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04-21-2013, 11:52 PM
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2013 LMHF Report Game #21

EDMONTON 1

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ANAHEIM 3
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Our opening topic tonight is potato chips. Why is that? you may ask. Well, I'll tell you...the Edmonton Oilers can't even do potato chips right at this point. Seriously. I'll elaborate - there was an announcement made late in the game that "everyone" would be getting chips as we left the building. Great, most of us thought, as at least we could take SOMETHING home from this game. It turns out that those of us who actually stayed until, ya know, the end of the game, were beyond out of luck. They had already been completely out for quite some time. I say a lot of critical things about the Edmonton Oilers, but I can't recall them screwing up something so damn basic. Just amazing. What is wrong with these people??

Anyway, back to hockey, or whatever exactly it was being played at Rexall Place tonight. One team kinda sorta played, another team didn't really bother.

I'd really like to write another legit game assessment before the end of the season. I do really enjoy getting into the nuts and bolts of the game. I'm less than optimistic this will happen though. There's every chance they come out on Wednesday and paste Chicago, just because we're the Oilers I suppose. It just isn't possible to go through assessing players the way they've played the last few games. Everyone is completely checked out mentally.

It was so sad to watch our team with the goalie pulled. We allowed Anaheim I think 5 attempts at the empty net. The Oilers barely got a shot. Not only that, but they turned the puck over in such a sad and pathetic way...it was either in the neutral zone or barely into the offensive zone every time. Really bad when you can't even muster a whimper.

If I'd been thinking of it in advance I suppose I could've done an Anaheim game report. They showed up and did what they needed to do with what appeared to be a roster where players were resting. It is sad but true that our team has, once again, become just an easy checkmark on the schedule at the end of the season.

Usually when this kind of thing happens there are at least people around trying to earn a job that can impress you. I tried to pay more attention to Lander and Hartikainen than anyone else tonight, though even that was a struggle at times.

Hartikainen managed to get himself a couple scoring chances including a nice tip and control the puck in the corners. He didn't capitalize and I really hope he spends some substantial time on his shooting in the offseason. It looks more than anything like he's just rushing it a little bit sometimes. That happens with young guys but learning to focus and finish is very hit or miss. It takes effort. #56 didn't blow anyone up tonight that I recall and I hope he brings that to the table in the pre-season next year as well as the AHL playoffs if he's eligible.

Lander was less noticeable and had some trouble with the puck from what I could see. He was completely out of place in the lineup of course, but at least it gave us all a chance to see him with some decent players. Paajarvi and Yakupov outclassed him by a lot of course. This doesn't mean he was a failure. While he wasn't as good on the PK as he usually seems to be, he was okay positionally and at least put forth an effort out there.

Aside from those two it was pretty much a grab bag for me. It is tough to focus on hockey that bad.

The top line with Gagner added didn't do too much. Sure, Hall scored but even he was surprised that shot beat Hiller. He kinda whiffed or was shooting for a rebound. As a unit they weren't carrying speed into the offensive zone at all. Gagner struggled to get his shot away despite some strong stickhandling. Eberle really didn't look to be into it at all. Hall was at times, and others not. Landed a big check near the end of the game for some reason

The second line was interesting to watch at times. Yakupov was once again probably the most dangerous forward. He got a couple good shots away from the slot and threaded an absolutely perfect pass to Paajarvi whose stick just disintegrated somehow. It was a grade AAA level pass that required a delay, weight shift, perfect speed and timing. Just awesome. #64 could still break for the open ice better. I hope there's a coach around that can see and teach that. Magnus could have been better but could have been worse. He was a half-step away from a lot of plays.

The old men were terrible tonight. Horcoff, Smyth and Smithson didn't contribute at all. Horcoff even managed to take a couple of stupid penalties to salt it. Smyth was behind every play. Smithson can't keep up either. Not worth saying much more. Smyth tried a double-wraparound....seriously.

Jones hit some people I suppose. At least that's something.

Brown took another dumb high sticking penalty. He's great at that.

The D? I dunno. Smid played tough as usual but also made more mistakes than normal. Petry made a really nice play to Hall to get him a goal then passed the puck away a bunch of times. I'm starting to wonder whether it is Petry's passing or whether at this point the forwards are so bad/disinterested that no one is in position to take a pass. Not really sure. The Schultzes? Just okay. Missed some coverages and Justin at least wasn't constantly wandering the offensive zone as he did during the last game I went to. Fistric and Potter spent most of the night giving the puck away as well. It wasn't pretty.

Dubnyk? Good enough if his team had decided to show up.
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If you care about sports and consider yourself a competitor, you wonder what impact all this intentional losing has had on the players. I maintain it results in what we've seen at the end of this season. Rather than a team that fights to the bitter end for at least some improvement, the players know that management is okay with losing. There's no accountability. Why would they want to win? Just wrecking the draft pick. This is why the NHL should have nuked the weighted lottery a long time ago. I would have much rather watched a team forced to fight than one taking the most talentless way out to rebuild a team. Watching hockey this listless after knowing your team is capable of more is even worse than watching a horrible team get beat. There's just nothing there to go after and instead of putting forth a professional, strong effort down the stretch and winning a game or two, this team is skating out the string. Make no mistake about that.

I won't be at the game tomorrow, so no report. See you Wednesday.

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Good read. anything you though that the ducks had that we didn't?

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Good read. anything you though that the ducks had that we didn't?
Mostly just the idea that winning the hockey game would be a good plan.

They also have a better team overall of course, and we didn't even see Fasth or the NHL's #8 +/- player who wasn't good enough for this hockey team...

If you're looking for the word 'size', no. If we had a full roster, a bit more depth and gave a damn we could skate through these guys any night.

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If we had a full roster, a bit more depth and gave a damn we could skate through these guys any night.
And don't forget competent management and a owner that isn't just in it for the money.

Depressing that we still see this after 5 years. A girl's bantam Hockey team could beat the Oilers. I feel so sorry for those first tier people who pay huge amounts of money to see this.

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The Smyth double wraparound was hilarious. It was like he decided "**** it, let's try the other side too!"

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I had the game on in the background, but honestly couldn't be bothered to lift my head and watch. When Quinn raised his voice I looked up at the TV, and that's about the extent of my interest right now. From what I did see, it was, like you said, a group of guys who have no incentives. There is no motivation, no one who was scared for their job.

They've sold out every game for 8 years, how do they not know how much bags of chips they'll need. My guess is they supplied just enough, and many people left with 2 or 3 bags. Still stupid though, and another example of how far this organization has to go still. Something as simple as running out of free chips at a time where fans are gonna be finicky as hell... it's mountain out of mole hill stuff, but nonetheless its another thing to complain about.

Was there any fights or chippy play from our guys or was it the typical mail it in ending?

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LOL I left as soon as the buzzer went and I still got by tiny bag of BBQ chips

One thing I noticed which was really odd tonight.

Coach K purposely had line #4 out against the Getzlaf line. We have last line change at home and he sent them over the boards time and time again. Crazy

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Was there any fights or chippy play from our guys or was it the typical mail it in ending?
Mailed.

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So why is Mike Brown on this club? I keep wondering.

Overhaul required in bottomsix. Need some supporting players. Horc, Smyth, just awful.

3 secs left in a period and I don't care what you do but don't allow a scoring chance right off the draw which results in a goal. Horrible play by Dumbnyk who was already thinking dressing room but jebus.

Only a joke of a club gives up that buzzer beater.

Kind of how the game and season went.

My own take is it will be literally impossible to build a team that cares about results as long as horcoff is here.

Haven't seen a captain since moreau mail it in on this many nights.


Would it be impossible for this club to show a little enthusiasm for more than 20mins.

They folded after the first.

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The Smyth double wraparound was hilarious. It was like he decided "**** it, let's try the other side too!"
Smyth has really packed in his give a ****. His play has plummeted to astonishing levels.

One almost gets the impression he's just here on a lark. Will the Real Ryan Smyth that used to care stand up?

Great guy but his passion for the game is truly gone. Just doesn't care at all anymore.

A retirement conversation between horc and Smyth has gotta be interesting.

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I thought Hall, Gagner, Smid, DD and Yak came to play.PRV and Harti looked decent, how PRV's stick just broke in half with no slash call on the Ducks is beyond me.

The Horcoff penalty on Fowler was not a good call by the refs, the Brown high stick, not sure it actually touched the Duck and if it did it was in the chest, not exactly a high stick. The stick facewash Yak gave a Duck with no call was close to being very serious, Allen I think it was?? He came close to losing teeth, his nose and a good part of his hairline!

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One other comment. Potter with a big play to keep the puck in opposition end and pays his dues getting drilled and they call that offside, or a forward pass with his mitt?

Curious call in any case and negated a serious scoring chance as Ducks were caught going up ice.

If I'm a player making that play and it gets called back I'm breaking a stick over something..

If Potter completely lost it after that call I wouldn't blame him.

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I thought Hall, Gagner, Smid, DD and Yak came to play.PRV and Harti looked decent, how PRV's stick just broke in half with no slash call on the Ducks is beyond me.

The Horcoff penalty on Fowler was not a good call by the refs, the Brown high stick, not sure it actually touched the Duck and if it did it was in the chest, not exactly a high stick. The stick facewash Yak gave a Duck with no call was close to being very serious, Allen I think it was?? He came close to losing teeth, his nose and a good part of his hairline!
They always seem to come to play and wear down trying so hard. Love the effort from those 5.

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One other comment. Potter with a big play to keep the puck in opposition end and pays his dues getting drilled and they call that offside, or a forward pass with his mitt?

Curious call in any case and negated a serious scoring chance as Ducks were caught going up ice.

If I'm a player making that play and it gets called back I'm breaking a stick over something..

If Potter completely lost it after that call I wouldn't blame him.
Good effort by Potter, but in the replay it looked like a hand pass to me.

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Smyth has really packed in his give a ****. His play has plummeted to astonishing levels.

One almost gets the impression he's just here on a lark. Will the Real Ryan Smyth that used to care stand up?

Great guy but his passion for the game is truly gone. Just doesn't care at all anymore.

A retirement conversation between horc and Smyth has gotta be interesting.
I'm having trouble understanding the disconnect between his love for playing and his unwillingness to go out in the offseason and put in the work. He seems to have no desire to go all Gary Roberts and fix himself up.

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Smyth has really packed in his give a ****. His play has plummeted to astonishing levels.

One almost gets the impression he's just here on a lark. Will the Real Ryan Smyth that used to care stand up?

Great guy but his passion for the game is truly gone. Just doesn't care at all anymore.

A retirement conversation between horc and Smyth has gotta be interesting.
A lot of the veterans seem like they just don't care. We need to get rid of them. I say screw veteran leadership it's massively overrated, let Hall and the other youngsters lead the team alongside Smid. Guys with some fire in their belly. It's pretty clear this is Hall's team going forward. Let him rule.

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So why is Mike Brown on this club? I keep wondering.

Overhaul required in bottomsix. Need some supporting players. Horc, Smyth, just awful.

3 secs left in a period and I don't care what you do but don't allow a scoring chance right off the draw which results in a goal. Horrible play by Dumbnyk who was already thinking dressing room but jebus.

Only a joke of a club gives up that buzzer beater.

Kind of how the game and season went.

My own take is it will be literally impossible to build a team that cares about results as long as horcoff is here.

Haven't seen a captain since moreau mail it in on this many nights.


Would it be impossible for this club to show a little enthusiasm for more than 20mins.

They folded after the first.
it even more disgusting when you look at a team such as columbus. their far, far better goaltending aside, the level of compete compared to the Oilers is disturbing.
heck even the flames. Calgary is having their worst year in team history (yet they are still ahead of the oilers) and their grab bag of castoffs and AHL players are showing so much more than edmonton does.

anyone who defends the oilers season in any way, should be ashamed of themselves.
All I know is I'm all for stripping Horcoff of the "C" and planting in on the chest of Hall. he's the only oiler who comes to compete every single day.
that and if smyth is still on the team next year, it will show each and every player that effort and results do NOT matter with the Edmonton Oilers, and their is no true accountability, either.

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the level of compete compared to the Oilers is disturbing.
I agree with your point, but that wording makes me cringe. It is bad enough that MacTavish is back and we'll be "compete'ed" to death on the radio and tv.

Effort level.
How hard we try.
Unfocused energy.
Not showing up.

Anything but that grammatical disaster created (or at least pushed and popularized) by our former Coach, former SVP of Hockey Ops now GM.

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EDMONTON 1

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ANAHEIM 3
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Our opening topic tonight is potato chips. Why is that? you may ask. Well, I'll tell you...the Edmonton Oilers can't even do potato chips right at this point. Seriously. I'll elaborate - there was an announcement made late in the game that "everyone" would be getting chips as we left the building. Great, most of us thought, as at least we could take SOMETHING home from this game. It turns out that those of us who actually stayed until, ya know, the end of the game, were beyond out of luck. They had already been completely out for quite some time. I say a lot of critical things about the Edmonton Oilers, but I can't recall them screwing up something so damn basic. Just amazing. What is wrong with these people??

Anyway, back to hockey, or whatever exactly it was being played at Rexall Place tonight. One team kinda sorta played, another team didn't really bother.

I'd really like to write another legit game assessment before the end of the season. I do really enjoy getting into the nuts and bolts of the game. I'm less than optimistic this will happen though. There's every chance they come out on Wednesday and paste Chicago, just because we're the Oilers I suppose. It just isn't possible to go through assessing players the way they've played the last few games. Everyone is completely checked out mentally.

It was so sad to watch our team with the goalie pulled. We allowed Anaheim I think 5 attempts at the empty net. The Oilers barely got a shot. Not only that, but they turned the puck over in such a sad and pathetic way...it was either in the neutral zone or barely into the offensive zone every time. Really bad when you can't even muster a whimper.

If I'd been thinking of it in advance I suppose I could've done an Anaheim game report. They showed up and did what they needed to do with what appeared to be a roster where players were resting. It is sad but true that our team has, once again, become just an easy checkmark on the schedule at the end of the season.

Usually when this kind of thing happens there are at least people around trying to earn a job that can impress you. I tried to pay more attention to Lander and Hartikainen than anyone else tonight, though even that was a struggle at times.

Hartikainen managed to get himself a couple scoring chances including a nice tip and control the puck in the corners. He didn't capitalize and I really hope he spends some substantial time on his shooting in the offseason. It looks more than anything like he's just rushing it a little bit sometimes. That happens with young guys but learning to focus and finish is very hit or miss. It takes effort. #56 didn't blow anyone up tonight that I recall and I hope he brings that to the table in the pre-season next year as well as the AHL playoffs if he's eligible.

Lander was less noticeable and had some trouble with the puck from what I could see. He was completely out of place in the lineup of course, but at least it gave us all a chance to see him with some decent players. Paajarvi and Yakupov outclassed him by a lot of course. This doesn't mean he was a failure. While he wasn't as good on the PK as he usually seems to be, he was okay positionally and at least put forth an effort out there.

Aside from those two it was pretty much a grab bag for me. It is tough to focus on hockey that bad.

The top line with Gagner added didn't do too much. Sure, Hall scored but even he was surprised that shot beat Hiller. He kinda whiffed or was shooting for a rebound. As a unit they weren't carrying speed into the offensive zone at all. Gagner struggled to get his shot away despite some strong stickhandling. Eberle really didn't look to be into it at all. Hall was at times, and others not. Landed a big check near the end of the game for some reason

The second line was interesting to watch at times. Yakupov was once again probably the most dangerous forward. He got a couple good shots away from the slot and threaded an absolutely perfect pass to Paajarvi whose stick just disintegrated somehow. It was a grade AAA level pass that required a delay, weight shift, perfect speed and timing. Just awesome. #64 could still break for the open ice better. I hope there's a coach around that can see and teach that. Magnus could have been better but could have been worse. He was a half-step away from a lot of plays.

The old men were terrible tonight. Horcoff, Smyth and Smithson didn't contribute at all. Horcoff even managed to take a couple of stupid penalties to salt it. Smyth was behind every play. Smithson can't keep up either. Not worth saying much more. Smyth tried a double-wraparound....seriously.

Jones hit some people I suppose. At least that's something.

Brown took another dumb high sticking penalty. He's great at that.

The D? I dunno. Smid played tough as usual but also made more mistakes than normal. Petry made a really nice play to Hall to get him a goal then passed the puck away a bunch of times. I'm starting to wonder whether it is Petry's passing or whether at this point the forwards are so bad/disinterested that no one is in position to take a pass. Not really sure. The Schultzes? Just okay. Missed some coverages and Justin at least wasn't constantly wandering the offensive zone as he did during the last game I went to. Fistric and Potter spent most of the night giving the puck away as well. It wasn't pretty.

Dubnyk? Good enough if his team had decided to show up.
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If you care about sports and consider yourself a competitor, you wonder what impact all this intentional losing has had on the players. I maintain it results in what we've seen at the end of this season. Rather than a team that fights to the bitter end for at least some improvement, the players know that management is okay with losing. There's no accountability. Why would they want to win? Just wrecking the draft pick. This is why the NHL should have nuked the weighted lottery a long time ago. I would have much rather watched a team forced to fight than one taking the most talentless way out to rebuild a team. Watching hockey this listless after knowing your team is capable of more is even worse than watching a horrible team get beat. There's just nothing there to go after and instead of putting forth a professional, strong effort down the stretch and winning a game or two, this team is skating out the string. Make no mistake about that.

I won't be at the game tomorrow, so no report. See you Wednesday.

Thanks for this report. Much better than actually watching a game these days.

I'll be playing Mario Kart again tonight, no point of watching slow train-wrecks.

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