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04-21-2013, 10:36 AM
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Jesus Christ that site is depressing when we lose...
Newsflash...it's also depressing when we win

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This is why I hate bad stretches.

4-5 bad games in a 48 game season do not warrant any lost jobs in terms of the coaching staff or the team. Yes, some poor choices were made in the last few games, but let's face it; Montreal finished 15th in the East and landed in the top 3 in last year's draft. This year, they sit at the top of the NE -- albeit it is unknown whether they will still be there by season's end -- and a playoff spot has been clinched already.

It's just a bad stretch. J.J. has done a great job this year, as has Therrien and the team as a whole. Yes, better choices can be made -- both by the team and by management -- but the overall result of this season has been spectacular.

Oh, and did I mention, YAY PLAYOFFS!?

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Tout est à recommencer? coup donc, il ya certains gens qui voulaient Patrick Roy comme entraineur, écoute moi je le prendrais, car il ya cette rage dans lui. On le connais tous comme il est, et je suis sûr qui aura fait du bon boulot. Peut-être on peut toujours l'amener comme entraîneur de Price.
C'est rendu maintenant un débat entre les EC? (Je voulais dire recommencer à propos de notre confusion mutuelle et je faisais référence aux "memes" RDS.) Patrick Roy n'y venait pas s'occuper des Canadiens sans avoir les rênes à tout l'organization. Je suis d'accord avec MT pour le moment, mais il doit, comme les autres montrer qu'il peut relever le défi qui se présente devant nous. Roy come entraîneur de gardien pour Price? Ha! Jamais. C'tun rôle trop indigne de lui.


Are we talking about head coaches now? (I was referring to our miscommunication in the last few posts due to sarcasm while making light of the RDS memes stuff.) Patrick Roy was never going to come join the Habs except if he had total control. I'm fine with MT for now, but he has to show us, like the rest, that he can overcome this challenge that we currently face. Roy as Price's goalie coach, never! It's a position far too beneath him.

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I worry less about Daignault and more about the clown coaching the kids in the minors.

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04-22-2013, 07:29 AM
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Yup, after Perry Pearn ruining our season last year, JJD is trying to do the same.

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04-22-2013, 08:07 AM
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Daigneault is one of our BEST higherings, not our worst. Look at the job he did with the NY Rangers defnemsen prospect. The problem isn't the coach, it's our D squad. Yes we have 2 #1 defensmen which is 1 heck of an asset, but the mix, that synergy of different styles that make a solid D squad is non existent since the loss of Emelin. We need some toughness, we need size and we need somebody that has a mean streak, now. We have too much of the same right now and that's why we're struggling.

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I don't blame him for the lack of balance on the defense, but he's supposed to be in charge of our penalty kill, which is horrible yet he refuses to move away from his awful system.

The defensive tactics have not been impressive overall this year, to say the least, not to mention the usage of some players. I'm not impressed, but without knowing the exact division of labor among the coaching staff.

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Did Montreal showed interest in Larry Robinson a few years ago? What happened with that?

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Kid, I pity you.

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04-24-2013, 09:27 AM
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I've taken the care to screenshot his posts, fret not.

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I'll eat crow when I'm wrong. I admit when I'm wrong. Most people around here don't like to do that.

Honestly, people around here like to pick on me for sticking out, but like I said, at least I have the balls to put my neck on the line.


And to be quite frank, a lot of what I was saying at the beginning of the year is now status quo around here, even though when I said it , it was unpopular.


Seriously, the amount of **** I get around here is ridiculous.
Just to address this balls issue, sticking by my opinion that we're still a very good team that is just playing very badly is open to rife ridicule and I'm hardly the only one who thinks so. In fact, right now, it's quite unpopular to say that managerially we've made the right moves, but it's what I think, despite the fact that this team looks tired and incapable of playing to their potential. I'm worried as hell about whether we'll be able to pull it together, but I'm happy with the moves MB made and I still think we can right the ship if they just start clicking/IF they got some rest, which I doubt they will between now and the playoffs.

Just wondering if you think JJD was doing a good job when we were amongst the league's best, particularly with our D having an outstanding year offensively.

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04-24-2013, 10:05 AM
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Newsflash...it's also depressing when we win
It seems even more depressing than last year.

Constant bashing of some individual players or coaches is getting super annoying.


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Daignault is one of the best signings of the summer, our D was out main force all season and he's done a hell of a job with the Rangers D prospects aswell

Is it his ****ing fault that Emelin is injured, that Markov is tired or that we have no legt crease clearing defensmen?? Seriously dude, start thinking with your head, not your anus.


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And you're a follower with no brains. You just lash out like 13 year old on PMS, you never back up what you say with concrete facts or say anything constructive. Daignault is one of the best signings of the summer, our D was out main force all season and he's done a hell of a job with the Rangers D prospects aswell

Is it his ****ing fault that Emelin is injured, that Markov is tired or that we have no legt crease clearing defensmen?? Seriously dude, start thinking with your head, not your anus.
Have you not seen the Habs penalty kill this year?

Trying to blame Daigneault for this slump is ridiculous. But one of our "best signings", really? The inability to adjust the penalty kill alone is enough to question his employment.

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04-24-2013, 11:07 AM
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I see no correlation between the limited viewings of JJ on CH24 and the habs current rough patch.

I think anyone who has actually played some form of competitive hockey would agree what he's doing on the show is actually impressive, showing a player midgame with video evidence what he is doing wrong and how to correct it (especially the PK incident where he tried to hit a guy mid puck battle instead of retrieving the puck) is the best way to help a dman improve his play.

3 of our top 4 dman are either hurt (Emelin) or playing awful Hockey (Markov & Gorges). Markov looks done, he cant win a board battle or contain his man anymore, pretty much a PP specialist at this point. Gorges looks lost out there and his decision making has become atrocious, he acutally played a team low (for dman) of 15 minutes last night.

Unfortunately PK cant play 60 mintues a game but Im willing to bet he'll be playing close to 30 during the playoffs

All that being said JJ is responsible for the PK and that is something that has to be rectified or were toast in the post season.

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04-24-2013, 11:18 AM
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Daignault is one of the best signings of the summer, our D was out main force all season and he's done a hell of a job with the Rangers D prospects aswell

Is it his ****ing fault that Emelin is injured, that Markov is tired or that we have no legt crease clearing defensmen?? Seriously dude, start thinking with your head, not your anus.
The ****? Our PK has been GARBAGE all year and he hasn't done a thing to fix it. It needs to be improved before the playoffs (unlikely) or else we'll struggle A LOT. Special teams are very important in the playoffs.

And why do people keep bringing up what he did in Connecticut? The only thing that counts is what he does here. So far, I haven't been impressed. Hopefully my opinion will change.


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I see no correlation between the limited viewings of JJ on CH24 and the habs current rough patch.

I think anyone who has actually played some form of competitive hockey would agree what he's doing on the show is actually impressive, showing a player midgame with video evidence what he is doing wrong and how to correct it (especially the PK incident where he tried to hit a guy mid puck battle instead of retrieving the puck) is the best way to help a dman improve his play.

3 of our top 4 dman are either hurt (Emelin) or playing awful Hockey (Markov & Gorges). Markov looks done, he cant win a board battle or contain his man anymore, pretty much a PP specialist at this point. Gorges looks lost out there and his decision making has become atrocious, he acutally played a team low (for dman) of 15 minutes last night.

Unfortunately PK cant play 60 mintues a game but Im willing to bet he'll be playing close to 30 during the playoffs

All that being said JJ is responsible for the PK and that is something that has to be rectified or were toast in the post season.
I find it hard to judge how much responsibility JJ has for the overall play of the defense, but he was hired with the reputation as a defensive "teacher", and to blame him (at least entirely) on the current defensive breakdown isn't entirely fair, especially when the teams overall schemes have been leaving the D exposed.

But if he's responsible for the trainwreck of a PK then it's hard to judge his job this year that positively. I don't blame him for the past week though.

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Our PK is too passive and our sticks seem to be protecting the boards rather than the inside of the ice.

Countless times the opposition has been able to go from the corner of the blueline to the far post with a puck.. easy deflection or one-timer on Price.

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Daigneault is one of our BEST higherings, not our worst. Look at the job he did with the NY Rangers defnemsen prospect. The problem isn't the coach, it's our D squad. Yes we have 2 #1 defensmen which is 1 heck of an asset, but the mix, that synergy of different styles that make a solid D squad is non existent since the loss of Emelin. We need some toughness, we need size and we need somebody that has a mean streak, now. We have too much of the same right now and that's why we're struggling.
Did we acquire another Dman ? Did we clone P.K. ? All I see is P.k. being a top pairing Dman, then Diaz a good second pairing dman with Emelin... The rest are all third pairing and 7th-8th-9th. This include Markov.


Our coaching staff is pretty sub-par to be honest. Gallant is the only one that seems to know what he's doing.

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Our horrible defense that has a potential Norris winner, two guys in the top 10 for points for dmen (would possibly have 3 if Diaz was still healthy), and allows 5th fewest shots per game.

The same defense that was incapable of shutting the door last season and saw countless leads blown.

If you look at our D, the sum of its parts is heck of a lot better than its individuals parts. If anything, JJD has made lemonade with lemons. And this despite a lengthy absence of one of our top 4 guy, and lack of any big size dmen capable of being physical in front of the net.

The PK has sucked but I'm beginning to think a good part of it is the goalie who can't stop a beach ball this season. The minute he's exposed a little it's in the net (ie on the PK, and the last few games).

What JJD suffer the most from is not being Robinson and speaking French. Two fatal flaws amongst fans on this board.
Yeah but what if we need apple cider. What will that lemonade do?

If I remember correctly most of this board wanted Cunneyworth out after the second game and I don't think anyone will accuse Cunneyworth of speaking French.

Other than that I agree with your post.

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