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04-21-2013, 10:56 AM
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Finally: Markov-Subban

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Now call up Tinordi and slot him in with Bouillon, and we're set.

Markov-Subban, if that actually comes to pass, will be the best even-strength and power-play combination we've had in, dare I say, decades.

Gorges-Diaz is a more than solid 2nd pair, good balance of offense and defense.

Weber-Bouillon - ideally Tinordi slots in with Bouillon to give us a little more sandpaper, but Weber has played well recently. Guess we'll see on that one. Have the feeling Weber's regular spot in the lineup is temporary until the Hamilton boys get the call.

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I don't even think its a good thing even strength. They both like to pinch and Markov is way too slow to get back and cover Subban's mistakes.

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I don't even think its a good thing even strength. They both like to pinch and Markov is way too slow to get back and cover Subban's mistakes.
If they get a game in, I think you'll disagree. We're loading up the top pair with two weapons. Just imagine how much better our transition game and breakout will be.

PK is more than fast and physical enough to make up for Markov's slowness.

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This obviously had to be cancelled out by bringing together 67-51-11.

****ing Therrien.

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I don't even think its a good thing even strength. They both like to pinch and Markov is way too slow to get back and cover Subban's mistakes.
Subban tends to cover his own mistakes. As good as markov is at pinching, when he fails, it's an automatic goal. Hopefully this will force markov to play a defensively sound, positional, veteran game at even strength

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I don't even think its a good thing even strength. They both like to pinch and Markov is way too slow to get back and cover Subban's mistakes.
I think right now Subban is quick enough to cover for Markov's pinching.

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Can't be worse than what's happening now.

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Now call up Tinordi and slot him in with Bouillon, and we're set.

Markov-Subban, if that actually comes to pass, will be the best even-strength and power-play combination we've had in, dare I say, decades.

Gorges-Diaz is a more than solid 2nd pair, good balance of offense and defense.

Weber-Bouillon - ideally Tinordi slots in with Bouillon to give us a little more sandpaper, but Weber has played well recently. Guess we'll see on that one. Have the feeling Weber's regular spot in the lineup is temporary until the Hamilton boys get the call.
Funny enough, I agree with the bold. However, in contrast, a top 4 of Markov, Subban, Gorges and Diaz doesn't seem that strong. Perspective changes everything.

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Funny enough, I agree with the bold. However, in contrast, a top 4 of Markov, Subban, Gorges and Diaz doesn't seem that strong. Perspective changes everything.
Disagree with you there. I think that's a solid top-4. Lacking some size, yeah, but it's very balanced. Markov is good positionally when he's not getting beat to the outside, PK is all-around quick and physical, Gorges, despite his flaws this season, is still a top shutdown defenseman, and Diaz has proven more than capable of being a 2-way force.

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Can't be worse than what's happening now.
Can't be.

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This obviously had to be cancelled out by bringing together 67-51-11.

****ing Therrien.
Just noticed that.


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This obviously had to be cancelled out by bringing together 67-51-11.

****ing Therrien.
Roll that line till we die. They need to take their heads out of their rear eventually. Make them the 3rd line if need be.

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Your joy was short-lived.

#Habs defence pairings switch: Gorges-Diaz, Bouillon-Subban, Markov-Weber. Discuss.

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Your joy was short-lived.

#Habs defence pairings switch: Gorges-Diaz, Bouillon-Subban, Markov-Weber. Discuss.
Well, we can assume for sure that Therrien isn't that stupid, and that since it's not even gameday, these pairings don't mean much.

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Normal I wouldn't like it, but Markov is struggling and I think Subban him out a little.

this ago lets Gorges and Daiz play together, they were really good together before Daiz got hurt.

But if Markov wasn't struggling I'd like to have him and Subban on different pairs, this way for 45-50 min of a game, you would have one of them on the ice.

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Normal I wouldn't like it, but Markov is struggling and I think Subban him out a little.

this ago lets Gorges and Daiz play together, they were really good together before Daiz got hurt.

But if Markov wasn't struggling I'd like to have him and Subban on different pairs, this way for 45-50 min of a game, you would have one of them on the ice.
Nice verb

Subban Markov would have been cool indeed.

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Why have that when we can have Subban-Boullion

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Nice verb

Subban Markov would have been cool indeed.
LMAO



**I think Subban WILL HELP him out a little

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Why have that when we can have Subban-Boullion
Subbroids or an adequate substitute (HoF dmen) are the only way otherwise very flawed Dmen like Gill and Bouillon don't look like pylons.

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Markov is now practicing with LJV.

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Well, we can assume for sure that Therrien isn't that stupid, and that since it's not even gameday, these pairings don't mean much.
I don't really hate the idea of putting Markov on the 3rd pairing for a few games. He really needs the rest; most of our defense do.

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Weber ? seriously... he played 3 games ? and 11 min each games ? not sur of the numbers but it's around it.

comon therrien put your 4 best defenders toghetter, Subban should be intelligent enough to back up Markov when needed !

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This worries me, there's no way Therrien can be dumb enough to continue overplaying Bouillon. It's worked horribly this season and if he doesn't get it, it could be a very short playoff.

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Let's face it, PK is playing 30+ minutes in the playoffs if we want to have any chance of success. Not last week's crappy PK, but Norris candidate PK has to show up.

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Markov-Subban, if that actually comes to pass, will be the best even-strength and power-play combination we've had in, dare I say, decades.
Even strength I'd still take a pre-injury Markov and pre-Lucic Komisarek pairing.

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I don't even think its a good thing even strength. They both like to pinch and Markov is way too slow to get back and cover Subban's mistakes.
Subban rarely gets caught punching, rarely. The reason Markov is playing with subban is because Markov needs to play with our best defensive defenseman.

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Even strength I'd still take a pre-injury Markov and pre-Lucic Komisarek pairing.
Even strength Markov-Komisarek wasn't all that great. Subban-Gorges is demonstrably superior. But Gorges-Subban have been one of the top pairings in the league since they were put together. While Markov-Komi couldn't do much better than break even on even strength with strong goaltending behind them.


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