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Next playoff-bound Alberta team?

View Poll Results: Which Alberta team makes the playoffs first?
Oilers, of course 52 56.52%
Flames, of course 23 25.00%
Neither in my lifetime 17 18.48%
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04-23-2013, 07:36 PM
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It's sad when our goal is to just make the playoffs and not contend for a Stanley cup. It's a league that lets half of its teams in the playoffs and we still can't get in.

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04-23-2013, 07:42 PM
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Well, they did make the playoffs five straight seasons. 03/04 to 08/09.

That's a better stretch than we've had since the 80's.
Didn't they also miss for 7 straight?

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04-23-2013, 07:44 PM
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Neither. There will be an Albertan team that will make the playoffs before the Flames or the Oilers.

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04-24-2013, 12:43 AM
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You guys are overestimating the flames right now, they're only winning games with the current roster because they have a group of young emotional players who are playing their hearts out to earn an NHL job, that kind of play won't be sustainable (yes, I used that word) more than a few games in to next season. Want proof that desperation and compete factor can make up for a half ass roster? Check out Columbus.


Both teams blow, but our young core > theirs, so we limp in to the playoffs 3 light years sooner.

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04-24-2013, 12:47 AM
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You guys are overestimating the flames right now, they're only winning games with the current roster because they have a group of young emotional players who are playing their hearts out to earn an NHL job, that kind of play won't be sustainable (yes, I used that word) more than a few games in to next season. Want proof that desperation and compete factor can make up for a half ass roster? Check out Columbus.


Both teams blow, but our young core > theirs, so we limp in to the playoffs 3 light years sooner.
Columbus' roster is well balanced with the addition of Gaborik.

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04-24-2013, 12:52 AM
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Columbus' roster is well balanced with the addition of Gaborik.
They don't have a single player with 30 points or anyone with more than 12 goals...

If Bobrovsky doesn't play out of his mind there's not a chance this team is in the 8 spot.

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04-24-2013, 01:02 AM
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They don't have a single player with 30 points or anyone with more than 12 goals...

If Bobrovsky doesn't play out of his mind there's not a chance this team is in the 8 spot.
I disagree. They bust their ass and every single coach in the world will tell you that hard work trumps talent on any given night.

And you never, ever apologize for world class goaltending. They have one of the best goaltenders in the world right now and he's key to their success, absolutely.

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04-24-2013, 01:07 AM
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I disagree. They bust their ass and every single coach in the world will tell you that hard work trumps talent on any given night.

And you never, ever apologize for world class goaltending. They have one of the best goaltenders in the world right now and he's key to their success, absolutely.
They do bust their ass, you're absolutely right.

That doesn't necessarily make them a balanced team though. Just a hard working one with a goalie playing Vezina-quality hockey. If not Hart Trophy quality.

The way Bobrovsky is playing makes me wonder why so many people are against Howson being here when he made that trade in the first place. If he could find us a goalie to play that well for peanuts I'd kiss his feet.

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04-24-2013, 01:35 AM
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The flames are probably better than the Oilers are right now and will add some solid pieces over the next couple of drafts. I don't see the Oilers making the playoffs for at least two more years.
The Flames already have a much grittier team with some decent 2nd tier young talent. They have a better defence right now without adding anything.
They will have 3 1st round draft picks (by virtue of trades) in a very deep draft. That in and of itself is an amazing kick start to replenishing their team and restocking the shelves.

The Oilers have done nothing but suck for 3+ years allowing them to acquire top draft picks. No progress what so ever in surrounding these 'gifts' with solid veterans. The Oilers have clearly shown they dont have a clue regarding how to rebuild a hockey team.
If they have a another Tambo like summer (where they add 2 rookies and expect improvement) then I see the Flames passing the Oilers next season.

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04-24-2013, 02:23 AM
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If flames are ahead of the oilers with way less talent, just add 1 high draft pick that pans out and they will be ahead of the Oilers. They know how to compete, where as Oilers dont.

As much as I hate it, its simply true they compete harder.
Many of the young flames players are young and played their 1st NHL game not too long ago... Maybe the fact that it is the end of the season and they get to play their 1st games as a collective bunch with no pressure is making them look better than they really are? I am positive they will come back to earth after a full season and do just as bad maybe worst if they don't make some drastic trades. That said it is absolutely embarrassing that they are ahead of us in the standings. Not acceptable.

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04-24-2013, 08:49 AM
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If the oilers do not make the playoffs next year

Hall, Eberle, Nuge, and the other kids need to be traded to get real talent in here
Right, when we draft Connor Mcdavid that's when the real rebuild starts what we've had so far was just the Tambellini mistake.

Of course as fearless leader Kevin Lowe has said it takes 6 years for a rebuild so we're looking at 2020 for our next playoff date. Will the flames make it before then or not?

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04-24-2013, 09:52 AM
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I picked the Oilers because I will never give the Flames a go.

But, maybe BOTH teams will make the playoffs at the same time.

Could happen.

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They don't have a single player with 30 points or anyone with more than 12 goals...

If Bobrovsky doesn't play out of his mind there's not a chance this team is in the 8 spot.
Just from my perspective, but in the "new" NIL its very possible to build a successful team with a bunch of 25 goal scores. Both the last two Cup winners had deep teams that got contributions from 4 lines without offensive stars (except Kopitar), were great defensively, and got stellar goaltending.

Interesting the last 5 Cup winners:
*DET, PIT, CHI- star based teams
*BOSS, LA - system based team w/ elite goaltending.

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04-24-2013, 03:43 PM
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Well, they did make the playoffs five straight seasons. 03/04 to 08/09.

That's a better stretch than we've had since the 80's.
Uh, we made the playoffs 5 straight years in the 90s. 6 times in 7 years.

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Uh, we made the playoffs 5 straight years in the 90s. 6 times in 7 years.
You're right, but two of those years went into the 00's. 99/00 and 00/01. It's been so bloody long that I neglected two of those seasons. It's especially hard to believe that we made the playoffs in 2002/2003, a season removed from the Doug Weight trade.

Smyth, Comrie and Marchant were good that year.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002%E2..._Oilers_season

Man, I used to get so annoyed with that team. Scott Ferguson on defense?? How in the world did that group make the playoffs?

EDIT: Marty Reasoner had a great season that year. He had a +19 rating. Our current players can only dream about a stat like that.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002%E2..._Oilers_season

Man, I used to get so annoyed with that team. Scott Ferguson on defense?? How in the world did that group make the playoffs?

EDIT: Marty Reasoner had a great season that year. He had a +19 rating. Our current players can only dream about a stat like that.
the 2001-2002 team was even better...other than the 2000-2001 team, this was probably the best Oiler team from 1992-2004

-won 38 games
-Tommy Salo was ridiculous good
-Mike Comrie scored 33 goals
-dancin' Anson had 60 points

...and we missed the playoffs

but the D was great

Brewer-Smith
Niiminaa-Staios
Poti-Ferguson
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we have no one of the calibur of Brewer or the toughness of Smith or the puck-moving ability of Niniimaa on this team

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How about the allergic soul of Tom Poti?

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the 2001-2002 team was even better...other than the 2000-2001 team, this was probably the best Oiler team from 1992-2004

-won 38 games
-Tommy Salo was ridiculous good
-Mike Comrie scored 33 goals
-dancin' Anson had 60 points

...and we missed the playoffs

but the D was great

Brewer-Smith
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we have no one of the calibur of Brewer or the toughness of Smith or the puck-moving ability of Niniimaa on this team
And in the pre-shootout days, 38 wins would normally get you into the playoffs.

Man, I miss ties.

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How about the allergic soul of Tom Poti?
He's had a pretty okay career since Terry Jones chased him out of town.

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He's had a pretty okay career since Terry Jones chased him out of town.
haha how did that happen?

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haha how did that happen?
He slagged him mercilessly in the paper on a daily basis. Eventually Lowe had no choice but to trade him. That wasn't the first (or last) time Jones chased a player out of town either.

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He slagged him mercilessly in the paper on a daily basis. Eventually Lowe had no choice but to trade him. That wasn't the first (or last) time Jones chased a player out of town either.
Never mind the Oilers, the entire city is a mess.

Not often I can appreciate living in the other major Alberta city.

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Never mind the Oilers, the entire city is a mess.

Not often I can appreciate living in the other major Alberta city.
??

Are you insinuating that Oilers fans are rough on players? Because I'll vehemently disagree there. That stigma, that reputation is overblown. Massively overblown. If anything we coddle the Edmonton Oilers.

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??

Are you insinuating that Oilers fans are rough on players? Because I'll vehemently disagree there. That stigma, that reputation is overblown. Massively overblown. If anything we coddle the Edmonton Oilers.
Depends on what you see Terry Jones as.

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