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04-24-2013, 08:56 AM
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Why trade for a D prospect when we already have a capable 4-5 Dman? I'm all for acquiring a good D prospect, but getting rid of a good 4-5 Dman seems counter-productive.

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Why trade for a D prospect when we already have a capable 4-5 Dman? I'm all for acquiring a good D prospect, but getting rid of a good 4-5 Dman seems counter-productive.
To fit as much talent as possible under the cap. If Oduya made 1.3M, it wouldn't be an issue. However, we have more than enough assets to target and NHL ready D-man that makes much less. What about someone like Simon Despres? Does a lot of the same things Oduya does plus more size. Makes 840K next year.

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04-24-2013, 09:12 AM
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Is it possible to extend Frolik out a couple of more years at a lower salary? Lower his average salary to under 2M.

He seems to have found his niche as a PK, energy guy. He's durable and heck, Burish gets 1.85M.

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04-24-2013, 09:30 AM
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Is it possible to extend Frolik out a couple of more years at a lower salary? Lower his average salary to under 2M.

He seems to have found his niche as a PK, energy guy. He's durable and heck, Burish gets 1.85M.
Yes but it won't kick in until his current contract expires. So he will still be making the 2.3 next year, which is the issue at hand.

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Yes but it won't kick in until his current contract expires. So he will still be making the 2.3 next year, which is the issue at hand.
So, it is impossible to "tear up" this contract and sign a new longer term deal?

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04-24-2013, 10:01 AM
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Yes, that is correct.

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04-24-2013, 10:08 AM
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So, it is impossible to "tear up" this contract and sign a new longer term deal?
Yup, the NHL, is like the NBA and MLB, contracts are guaranteed and any new contract can't circumvent the previous contract. Only in the NFL can you change an active contract.

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04-24-2013, 10:51 AM
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To fit as much talent as possible under the cap. If Oduya made 1.3M, it wouldn't be an issue. However, we have more than enough assets to target and NHL ready D-man that makes much less. What about someone like Simon Despres? Does a lot of the same things Oduya does plus more size. Makes 840K next year.
Why would the Pens trade him if he is so good and so cheap.....

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Why would the Pens trade him if he is so good and so cheap.....
He's not "so good", just about as good as Oduya for a fraction of the cost. He has been in and out of the lineup and if they resign Murray or promote someone else, it will be hard to get him in as a regular. They traded their 1st and 2nd round pick. They could be interested in a forward prospect too.

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Yup, the NHL, is like the NBA and MLB, contracts are guaranteed and any new contract can't circumvent the previous contract. Only in the NFL can you change an active contract.

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04-24-2013, 01:34 PM
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if this would have been allowed, many players wouldn't have been bought out or not been burried. Huet said he would love to restructure his contract to stay with the Hawks... he wouldn't void it tough...

Coldsteel, out of those 4 it's Stalberg and Oduya. 3rd would be Bickell and Frolik last. He should be gone. We don't have the room to carry a guy like him on the 4th line as luxury

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