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04-24-2013, 11:09 AM
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Biggest CHL Debuts on the CSS List (This includes players who were marked with 'Limited Viewing' tag). Unless I'm missing something, none of these players were on the CSS Mid-Term list.

OliverBjorkstrand #36
Yan-Pavel Laplante #50
Stephen Anderson #127
Daniel Nikandrov #135
Zach Leslie #146
Ben Betker #147
Tyrell Goulbourne #151
Peter Trainor #154
Rhyse Dieno #159
Adam Henry #165
Tyler Ganly #166
Mickael Beauregard #168
Zach Pochiro #173
Levi Bews #179
Henri Ikonen #180
Jacob Sweeney #189
Taylor Green #190
Tyler Bertuzzi #207

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04-24-2013, 11:10 AM
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CHL Players who were on the CSS Mid-Term list but failed to make the Final list.

Justin Auger (was #71)
Nick Betz (was #106)
Jay Merkley (was #111)
Sergey Kuptsov (was #131)
Connor Honey (was #144)
Mark Raycroft (was #147)
Michael Webster (was #157)
Riley Sheen (was #158)
Vladimir Bryukvin (was #167)
Steven Duda (was #169)
Carson Perreaux (was #175)
Alexandre Boivin (was #176)
Will Tomchuk (was #179)
Adam Power (was #187)
Mathieu Lemay (was #190)
Landon Schiller (Was #193)
Aaron Berisha (Was #199)
Simon Fortier (Was #202)
Colby Williams (Was #203)
Simon Tremblay (was #204)

That's all my numbers now!

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04-24-2013, 11:12 AM
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Drouin is heavier than I thought. He's got more weight than Mac and he's shorter hmm
It's all lower body/core strength.

That's what lets him dangle the puck like he does.

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04-24-2013, 11:12 AM
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The list seems to indicate that the CSS scouts put a lot of emphasis on size. In contrast, Button thinks that size is over-rated as a predictor of future success.

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04-24-2013, 12:14 PM
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Depends on who picks where.

Colorado - Jones first
Florida - Mackinnon
Tampa - Drouin/Jones
Nashville - Mackinnon
Carolina - Jones
Edmonton - A forward
Calgary - Mackinnon/Jones/Drouin (we need help everywhere)
If Edmonton won the lottery I think they take Jones and then try and trade for a bigger 2nd line center or size in their top 6, but you never know.


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04-24-2013, 12:26 PM
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It's all lower body/core strength.

That's what lets him dangle the puck like he does.
Pretty sure he dangles because he can, not because he has an abundance of core strength.

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04-24-2013, 12:34 PM
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If Edmonton won the lottery I think they take Jones and then try and trade for a bugger 2nd line center or size in their top 6, but you never know.
Not sure Edmonton wants any part of drafting a bugger?

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04-24-2013, 12:34 PM
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I wonder what they were expecting. Lindholm put together one of the best seasons ever by a draft eligible player in Sweden, nominated for the "breakthrough of the year" award and rookie of the year. Nobody I know thought he would have a season this good.
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Depends on who picks where.

Colorado - Jones first
Florida - Mackinnon
Tampa - Drouin/Jones
Nashville - Mackinnon
Carolina - Jones
Edmonton - A forward
Calgary - Mackinnon/Jones/Drouin (we need help everywhere)
Many of those teams are going for BPA imo.. I'm sure Tampa will. If MacKinnon is BPA for them, they will take him.

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04-24-2013, 12:48 PM
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I have looked a few times but do not see Nick Betz on this list...there is no way this kid isnt in the top 210 North American skaters...hell he was in the top 100 for their mid term.. at 6'5 210lbs someone is going to take a shot on this kid. his offensive numbers are not good, but he has raw potential that I cant see teams taking 200 players over.

and Cammarata at 193 is just laughable...

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04-24-2013, 12:59 PM
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I have looked a few times but do not see Nick Betz on this list...there is no way this kid isnt in the top 210 North American skaters...hell he was in the top 100 for their mid term.. at 6'5 210lbs someone is going to take a shot on this kid. his offensive numbers are not good, but he has raw potential that I cant see teams taking 200 players over.
I mentioned him in post #27, he was ranked 106th overall on the mid-term list but didn't make the list this time aroundm the second highest player on the mid-term list to drop off the list.

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04-24-2013, 01:06 PM
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Hey Caley is it you that does the consensus rankings once all the final ratings have been released?

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04-24-2013, 01:24 PM
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Good to see 2 guys I've been pumping for a while, Theodore and Mueller, get some recognition.

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04-24-2013, 02:24 PM
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Hey Caley is it you that does the consensus rankings once all the final ratings have been released?
No, that is not me.

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04-24-2013, 02:29 PM
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The list seems to indicate that the CSS scouts put a lot of emphasis on size. In contrast, Button thinks that size is over-rated as a predictor of future success.
Not really.

Button has a lot of lesser talented large stay at home defensman on his lists.

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04-24-2013, 02:30 PM
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Hey Caley is it you that does the consensus rankings once all the final ratings have been released?
It's Tormentor. The guy who started this thread. Sweet talk him.

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04-24-2013, 03:31 PM
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Central Scouting is as much a directory of draft available players as a proper ranking (which is one of the reasons for separating NA and Europe). They're the ones that are most off compared to the eventual draft.
I think I would disagree a bit, in regards to their final rankings at least.

Their first couple of lists are mostly outlines and directories, while I know they spend a lot of time on their final list. I would probably consider it more of a proper ranking.

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04-24-2013, 03:55 PM
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Pretty sure he dangles because he can, not because he has an abundance of core strength.
An abundance of core strength helps with torso rotation which is used in faking out opponents and allows for stabilization when being agile on your skates. So, yes he has great hands anyways but there's more to it than that.

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04-24-2013, 04:56 PM
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I wonder how they justify moving Theodore up to 11, and dropping Morrissey down to 27th. That seems a little iffy to me personally.

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04-24-2013, 05:16 PM
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Hm. Mueller is ranked #9 and ahead of Theodore? I'm a bit confused as an Everett fan, although admittedly I wasn't paying close attention to his play. He played well but I certainly wasn't impressed on the same level that I was for Murray. Maybe that's a bit unfair though.

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04-24-2013, 05:42 PM
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I wonder how they justify moving Theodore up to 11, and dropping Morrissey down to 27th. That seems a little iffy to me personally.
Agree with this. Would like to hear a rationale behind this. I'm not going to get too worked up over this because a list is just a list, it's one ranking and everyone has their own opinions. It's definitely not close to the lists NHL teams will be using come draft day, still interesting to see rankings compiled from a bunch of guys that go to a bunch of games though even if I might not necessarily agree with all the rankings.

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04-24-2013, 05:44 PM
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An abundance of core strength helps with torso rotation which is used in faking out opponents and allows for stabilization when being agile on your skates. So, yes he has great hands anyways but there's more to it than that.
That's exactly what I meant, not to mention the lower body strength allowing him to protect the puck better/not get knocked off his skates easily, again enabling him to make the plays he's become famous for.

If you've ever seen Drouin in shorts, his legs look like tree trunks.

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04-24-2013, 05:58 PM
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This draft is going to be so unpredictable. Mirco Mueller and Shea Theodore in the top-15? I've thought of both as potential late-1st, early-2nd round picks. Zikita Zadorov near the end of the 1st round, after being in the top-10 on ISS.

Crazy how the opinions vary.

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No Tyler Hill?

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no tyler hill?
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Seen Nastastiuk quite a few times this year and I can't justify putting him ahead of Horvat, Domi and Hartman. Solid prospect but I sure wouldn't take him over these three guys listed behind him.

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