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04-24-2013, 01:04 PM
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If I was Moncton, I'd be hoping to get younger by trading away anyone of value for good picks/prospects. Keep a select few vets that are good examples for the younger players. And as hard as it would be to stomach, I'd be hoping to finish as far down the standings as possible. Can't trade Euro picks anymore, so that's the only way you'd be able to get a good 17yo Euro is to draft him with your own pick.

Bathurst should be attempting the same thing. With their new ownership it will be interesting to see if they do what LGM didn't, and go through a proper rebuild.

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If I was Moncton, I'd be hoping to get younger by trading away anyone of value for good picks/prospects. Keep a select few vets that are good examples for the younger players. And as hard as it would be to stomach, I'd be hoping to finish as far down the standings as possible. Can't trade Euro picks anymore, so that's the only way you'd be able to get a good 17yo Euro is to draft him with your own pick.

Bathurst should be attempting the same thing. With their new ownership it will be interesting to see if they do what LGM didn't, and go through a proper rebuild.
Has this been confirmed ? If so Danny Flynn better catch up since he was quoted in the paper a few days ago on the possibility of moving up in the Import draft..

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Has this been confirmed ? If so Danny Flynn better catch up since he was quoted in the paper a few days ago on the possibility of moving up in the Import draft..
This is the last year you can trade them.
Just curious...what does he have that he could use to trade up?

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This is the last year you can trade them.
Just curious...what does he have that he could use to trade up?
Prospects , players and draft picks ?

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Prospects , players and draft picks ?
I think he was looking for names, because you don't have very many of those things listed above, that would be beneficial to trade.

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I think he was looking for names, because you don't have very many of those things listed above, that would be beneficial to trade.
2013: 2-3(gat)-5-6(vdo)-7-7(chi)-8-9-10-10(gat)-11-12-13-14-14(sha)-euro1-euro2
*2014 and 2015 draft picks

Lalonde, Johnston, Dubeau , Sweeney, Tremaine , Penny, Garland ,Batt

Mann,Pitre,McCabe,Simpson,Pugsley,Beadoin,Hynes

I'm sure some of those assets would be enough to move up in an import draft...

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Prospects , players and draft picks ?
3 things you don't have much of..

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Prospects , players and draft picks ?
The picks your team has are dismal if you take into account that your team is on a rebuild.
Why throw away picks for improving your Euro ranking when you hardly have enough to take advantage of the draft?

Prospects are not worth what you want to use them for.

The Wildcats only tool is trading players for picks and starting a true rebuild; that is exactly what ClemQ was suggesting above....

It is not gonna be a rosy sight the next couple of years but at least you will see a young and developing roster.
Is Danny Flynn the right man for that situation?

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[QUOTE=chsb;64639581]The picks your team has are dismal if you take into account that your team is on a rebuild.
Why throw away picks for improving your Euro ranking when you hardly have enough to take advantage of the draft?

Prospects are not worth what you want to use them for.

The Wildcats only tool is trading players for picks and starting a true rebuild; that is exactly what ClemQ was suggesting above....

It is not gonna be a rosy sight the next couple of years but at least you will see a young and developing roster.
Is Danny Flynn the right man for that situation?[/QUOTE]

Not sure , I was hoping RKI might take a look at LGM. That way we won't have to worry about a rebuild

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3 things you don't have much of..
2013: 2-3(gat)-5-6(vdo)-7-7(chi)-8-9-10-10(gat)-11-12-13-14-14(sha)-euro1-euro2
*2014 and 2015 draft picks

Lalonde, Johnston, Dubeau , Sweeney, Tremaine , Penny, Garland ,Batt

Mann,Pitre,McCabe,Simpson,Pugsley,Beadoin,Hynes

I'm sure some of those assets would be enough to move up in an import draft...

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Moncton should try to rebuild though, a competitive group but IMO they should try to restock.

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I wouldn't chirp Bathurst if I was a Moncton fan this year... We know which organization has more recent success and is indeed run better, but Bathurst didn't make a huge mistake at the deadline thinking this was their year when there were other things to be had... Although trading Lalancette is out there lol.

Moncton will lose one or a combo of Lalonde, Johnston, and Barb... That's always been reported by the Q reporters, although we're not sure which package... So they shouldn't (all) be included in the list of available Moncton assets.

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The picks your team has are dismal if you take into account that your team is on a rebuild.
Why throw away picks for improving your Euro ranking when you hardly have enough to take advantage of the draft?

Prospects are not worth what you want to use them for.

The Wildcats only tool is trading players for picks and starting a true rebuild; that is exactly what ClemQ was suggesting above....

It is not gonna be a rosy sight the next couple of years but at least you will see a young and developing roster.
Is Danny Flynn the right man for that situation?[/QUOTE]

Not sure , I was hoping RKI might take a look at LGM. That way we won't have to worry about a rebuild
hahahahah!!! i hadnt seen this quote....good one

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I wouldn't chirp Bathurst if I was a Moncton fan this year... We know which organization has more recent success and is indeed run better, but Bathurst didn't make a huge mistake at the deadline thinking this was their year when there were other things to be had... Although trading Lalancette is out there lol.

Moncton will lose one or a combo of Lalonde, Johnston, and Barb... That's always been reported by the Q reporters, although we're not sure which package... So they shouldn't (all) be included in the list of available Moncton assets.
i was told its not Barbashaev for sure. Wether you believe my source or not...we'll see what happens at the draft. And there will be a few picks coming back Moncton's way also. Although, no first or second picks.

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hahahahah!!! i hadnt seen this quote....good one
The question is worth asking as Flynn is notoriously NOT a rebuild phenom....

He is also not famous to show a lot of patience with rookies when coaching.

But the one with less patience is the man above him and they are heading face down in a true rebuild.

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i was told its not Barbashaev for sure. Wether you believe my source or not...we'll see what happens at the draft. And there will be a few picks coming back Moncton's way also. Although, no first or second picks.
You're correct that it's not Barbashev. DF confirmed it last week that he's not going to Victoriaville and that he has a no trade clause. I heard that Victo has the option of Johnston OR Lalonde for the 2nd round pick back or both players for our 1st 2015 back.

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You're correct that it's not Barbashev. DF confirmed it last week that he's not going to Victoriaville and that he has a no trade clause. I heard that Victo has the option of Johnston OR Lalonde for the 2nd round pick back or both players for our 1st 2015 back.
if i'm victoriaville thats a no brainer...id be taking both.
that makes moncton even weaker next year. They can use the 2015 pick to move up in the euro draft, but, i'm not sure that helps any rebuild effort.

The euro draft is not about picking the best talents first and so forth. It's all about working a deal out with a player/agent. It doesnt matter where the cats pick, they should be able to acquire a decent player with $ they are capable of offering.

At this point, if i was them, i would not worry about hitting a home run with a euro, i would keep as many assets as possible and if anything, try to acquire draft picks, 16's and 17's. Looking at their bank of picks and prospects, they dont have enough to be worried about picking up an 17/18yr old euro that would be on a squad that will be mediocre for the next couple years. IMO, your just throwing assets away that you could have used down the road when you will be a contender again.

just my opinion however.....

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Cats should pick up a young euro, and make him part of their rebuild with Barbashev and Garland.

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Cats should pick up a young euro, and make him part of their rebuild with Barbashev and Garland.
I hope so. It would make the most sense. I wasn't a fan of what SJ did at last year's Import Draft , opting to go with an 18 and 19 year old in a rebuild. Maybe they didn't have a choice and their targeted player was taken or something but it didn't really work well , imo.

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if i'm victoriaville thats a no brainer...id be taking both.
that makes moncton even weaker next year. They can use the 2015 pick to move up in the euro draft, but, i'm not sure that helps any rebuild effort.

The euro draft is not about picking the best talents first and so forth. It's all about working a deal out with a player/agent. It doesnt matter where the cats pick, they should be able to acquire a decent player with $ they are capable of offering.

At this point, if i was them, i would not worry about hitting a home run with a euro, i would keep as many assets as possible and if anything, try to acquire draft picks, 16's and 17's. Looking at their bank of picks and prospects, they dont have enough to be worried about picking up an 17/18yr old euro that would be on a squad that will be mediocre for the next couple years. IMO, your just throwing assets away that you could have used down the road when you will be a contender again.

just my opinion however.....
I'd agree. If that is what the option is (Johnston and/or Lalonde) that's what I see happening as well. Even if Victo opted to get younger , they could surely get more than a 1st in return for Lalonde and Johnston if they were to flip them. Moncton should be able to add a high end euro regardless of where they're picking but I think we'll probably move up to do it. I wonder if Nylander's son is coming over ? I think he'd be a great player in the CHL. There is already talk he'll be a high pick in his NHL draft year.

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I hope so. It would make the most sense. I wasn't a fan of what SJ did at last year's Import Draft , opting to go with an 18 and 19 year old in a rebuild. Maybe they didn't have a choice and their targeted player was taken or something but it didn't really work well , imo.
That one also boggles my mind..

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I'd agree. If that is what the option is (Johnston and/or Lalonde) that's what I see happening as well. Even if Victo opted to get younger , they could surely get more than a 1st in return for Lalonde and Johnston if they were to flip them. Moncton should be able to add a high end euro regardless of where they're picking but I think we'll probably move up to do it. I wonder if Nylander's son is coming over ? I think he'd be a great player in the CHL. There is already talk he'll be a high pick in his NHL draft year.
i guess we agree to disagree on this one
I see no logic in moving up if i'm the wildcats. Unless you can move up with only trading late picks or prospects which will have not much of an impact on your team (which the cats have lots of), i dont see the logic in moving a contributable part in order to get a player that will not be here the next time you are ready to contend.

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i guess we agree to disagree on this one
I see no logic in moving up if i'm the wildcats. Unless you can move up with only trading late picks or prospects which will have not much of an impact on your team (which the cats have lots of), i dont see the logic in moving a contributable part in order to get a player that will not be here the next time you are ready to contend.
Euro picks in general , especially moving up is not expensive unless it's #1 overall. For example , Bathurst sent Rouyn Noranda their 1st Euro 2013 for a 4th round pick 2013. I'm all for moving up if the cost isn't too high (i.e 4th round pick).. We'll be a lot younger this season and it will be intresting to see how some of last year's picks turn out.

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Looks like Ross Johnston will be the only player headed to Victoriaville to complete the Danault trade.

http://www.lanouvelle.net/Sports/Hoc...r-alignement/1

This puts an end to all the Barbashev rumours and will also speed up Moncton's rebuild process as they will receive a draft choice in return for Johnston at the draft. Lalonde will also fetch a decent return from a contending team looking to add a feisty, scoring winger.

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Looks like Ross Johnston will be the only player headed to Victoriaville to complete the Danault trade.

http://www.lanouvelle.net/Sports/Hoc...r-alignement/1

This puts an end to all the Barbashev rumours and will also speed up Moncton's rebuild process as they will receive a draft choice in return for Johnston at the draft. Lalonde will also fetch a decent return from a contending team looking to add a feisty, scoring winger.

Ya I told everyone the day danault was acquired that barb wasn't going the other way. But since some people are jealous of others inside info they don't believe. Guess all the big q league twitter people don't know as much as they thought.

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