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04-24-2013, 06:14 PM
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I believe you are on to something.

The B's play better when they are loose and laughing. They need to get that swagger back. Jagr is playing that way and I hope it rubs off on the rest of them. I hate seeing the slumping shoulders and frowns.

IMHO a couple of good games (soon please) could turn them around.

I know this sounds silly but some positive energy from the fans can't hurt.

Bring Savvy down and put him behind the bench. He was always a spark plug.

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04-24-2013, 06:31 PM
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here is a good motivational video from 2011


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I believe you are on to something.

The B's play better when they are loose and laughing. They need to get that swagger back. Jagr is playing that way and I hope it rubs off on the rest of them. I hate seeing the slumping shoulders and frowns.

IMHO a couple of good games (soon please) could turn them around.

I know this sounds silly but some positive energy from the fans can't hurt.

Bring Savvy down and put him behind the bench. He was always a spark plug.
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I see what you say. Jagr is/has fun with the puck! Not so much when he doesn't though. He is different from all Bruins player and Bruins system.

I hope this will or can make a difference in the playoff.

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04-24-2013, 07:50 PM
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They had an excellent start to the season, but all during that run, the media and fans said over and over that the best was yet to come and the Bruins weren't playing their best hockey. They've been struggling mightily, pressing hard, and it just seems like their heart isn't in it.

Maybe the burden of expectations and underperformance has gotten to them mentally. Of course, the compressed schedule has been mentioned ad naseum, but it is a glaring factor. I don't know how many more practices are left before the playoffs, but maybe the Bruins need a light-hearted, fun practice with a scrimmage game or shootout contest, some kind of healthy competition. Maybe with a team-building trip afterwards, which has been a staple of this team in years past.

Jaromir Jagr's personality would be perfect for this type of practice, and maybe his attitude would permeate to the rest of the team. If they were all having as much fun as he's having, who knows how well they could play.


Your thoughts? Do the Bruins need to lighten up?
The excellent start wasn't really as impressive as the record indicated. They won a lot of games in OT or via the shoot out, which shows me the games were far closer and could have gone the other way just as easily. It's why I didn't buy into the hype early on. They weren't as good as people thought then, just like they're not as bad as people think now. What they need is some consistency with the lines and roles. Once all the new guys figure where they fit, they'll be pretty scary.

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04-24-2013, 09:53 PM
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here is a good motivational video from 2011

Feels like an eon ago. Not sure if that team exists anymore.

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04-24-2013, 10:12 PM
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here is a good motivational video from 2011

I honestly nearly shed a tear haha. **** that game was awesome. I bet people that hadn't sat down yet were pissed when they missed 3 fights! And Raycroft too. If people think this team has anything close to that in them they're crazy. No offence, but I don't care if they had a week off this team would just not play with that much fire .. or score that many goals.

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04-24-2013, 10:16 PM
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This team reminds me of 2008-09. Hot start followed by a coast.

Sad thing is that talent wise this team is better than the cup team, just need to get back that swagger

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04-24-2013, 10:21 PM
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As Brick has said before, "we need some more goal-scoring."

It's simple, stop playing like a bunch of pansies and start putting together a solid 60 minute game. We're not playing our style. We're not hitting/physical, we're not rolling out three scoring lines, we're not playing sound defense in our own end. This team is usually known for those three elements year in and year out.

Lack of effort.....


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04-24-2013, 10:28 PM
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This entire team from Top to bottom has underwhelming.

I mean, yes you can look at lucic's goals / horton's drive and say wtf?! but to me, looking at the 3rd line prior to kelly's injury and see Peverley and Kelly playing like absolute dog **** was what got me worried.

Yea bourque / pandolfo blah blah, but that was no reason for the half hearted efforts. Although the kid barfed on himself when he had the puck, there were many a night I thought Bourque out hustled both peverley + Kelly. That's hard to do since guys like that make up for their lack of talent w/ hustle and commitment.

When I see guys like that not giving a **** (or at least appear not to) then I know that the entire team either

1) Is to worried about the compressed schedule and plays with the anticipation of being tired.
2) Complacency is contagious and a lot of players are taking the same nights off
3) I got nothing


I'm not saying any of the above is the sole contributor or biggest contributor to they're performance of late. Just something I can't let go when I watch them. The same guys we saw work their ass off in 2010/2011, didn't work their ass off in 2011/2012 or for the better part of this season either.

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04-24-2013, 10:31 PM
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This team is in a slump and unlike a regular season, a slump carries harder.

You have a few guys who are lagging or aren't taking the pace well- Lucic being the biggest problem here. Before the playoffs they need to rest guys- Chara and Lucic being the ones needing it the most.

The 2nd thing this team needs is to just get into a series, hate an opponent and decide they want it and that they're going to do whatever it takes to win. It's something that can't be coached into them, told to them or whatever- they just need to want it. I look to guys like Thorty, Ference, Chara to set the tone on this point.

If the team can become motivated then it's just injury and fatigue they're against. Keep Tuukka going, give him the support and this team can go places. If they fail to do that, we see another early exit.

Other than that, the details that can be coached are minor:
-Team needs to make sure that forwards are deeper and control the break out better so that they can have speed in the neutral zone.
-They also need to make plays that give them more opportunity to support the puck once entering the zone (Seguin, I'm looking at you).
-The PK needs to continue to be aggressive but avoid overdoing it and getting out of position (I've even seen Bergy do this a few times lately).
-Passes need to be crisper and they should look for shorter passes to prevent them from losing speed in the neutral zone.
-In the offensive end they need to be smarter when with the puck high- they're looking at too many risky options- keep possession and work down low.
-On the PP, keep moving in the direction they are, mostly work with the 2nd unit on being willing to regroup and attack in unison if the neutral zone stymies them (Dougie specifically needs to know he can reset rather than force a dump in chase where the guys chasing are flat footed).

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04-24-2013, 10:33 PM
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This team on paper, is very good and should be more than capable of making it deep this year. We got the team and we are healthy, no excuses...

It's scary how much they look like they just don't give a **** as the season winds down. I have been pretty lenient with them because I have said I'm just going to wait and see what the playoffs bring us.

I hope they can flip the switch once the playoffs roll around. I think that's what everyone is hoping for at least.

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04-24-2013, 10:35 PM
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I think they need sleep and no practices, the playoffs are in a week and still some games to be played, they've practiced enough, now they need 110% on the ice... no time and no more excuses
This.

While I liked Claude saying that using "being tired" was "BS", he used that EXACT excuse multiple times this season. It's not BS though, this team looks spent.

I say screw trying to win the division. If it happens by accident then so be it. I'd give a few guys tomorrow night off.

I'd let Chara and Seidenberg stay home tomorrow. Don't even bring them to Washington. No skating, ban them from the rink until Sunday. I play the wheels off Dougie Hamilton Thursday and Saturday to see what he has left in the tank, then give him Sunday off. I give Ference Saturday off. Rest the defense.

I play Rask Thursday and Saturday, start Dobby Sunday.

I'd also lock down some lines. Too much ****ing around the last week or two. That said, I give every single regular forward at least one game off between today and Sunday.

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04-24-2013, 11:21 PM
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Food for thought. The Bruins had more people playing throughout the lockout than any other team. Almost the entire team as a matter of fact. This would explain their quick start, but would it also explain their play of late. Is it possible that they are wearing out where other teams are hitting their stride?

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Food for thought. The Bruins had more people playing throughout the lockout than any other team. Almost the entire team as a matter of fact. This would explain their quick start, but would it also explain their play of late. Is it possible that they are wearing out where other teams are hitting their stride?
Reading this just made me think of how unreal the playoffs around the league could possibly be with every team in mid-season form.

Combine that with the hard hitting and fast pace of the playoffs and we could see the essence of hockey. I'm excited.

And yeah, we gotta get our heads out of our ***** and figure it out. Wayyy too good to be playing this badly.

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04-25-2013, 01:25 AM
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I have faith

we have Brad Marchand



( and listen to the mic picking up Marchand shouting at the end of the video for extra )

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I have faith

we have Brad Marchand



( and listen to the mic picking up Marchand shouting at the end of the video for extra )
After listening to that twice in a row (hey it's 4:30am and I'm up) I think Brads "yeas" isolated would make a nice goose call

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04-25-2013, 06:53 AM
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Food for thought. The Bruins had more people playing throughout the lockout than any other team. Almost the entire team as a matter of fact. This would explain their quick start, but would it also explain their play of late. Is it possible that they are wearing out where other teams are hitting their stride?
Good question, I`m still not convinced playing over there was/is a plus, completely different game with missing physical elements.

I think this team benefited from a lighter schedule to begin the season, put together some wins (not convincing wins but..) then the sched. got heavy, Kelly, regardless if he wasn`t playing the way we have come to expect was injured, Quaider, a quiet yet steady D man gone much of this year, a rotating door for 3rd line wingers etc....

Excuse making?? To a degree, either way, in the previous two lockout/strike seasons, I recall watching not just our Bruins, but many other teams with the exact same issues which have a way, over a full season of correcting themselves that you don`t have in a shortened one.

Either way, this team needs a few bounces, needs some ugly goals, and needs them to come off the sticks of a Pevs/Looch/Krejci, but to get those bounces, they must be earned, have to have the will to drive to the net, to stand in front and take the punishment to receive the reward.

Am I pumped about the way the boys have played this year??? Nope, but I`ve watched this game far too long to sit here and annoint ANY team with jack all based on the way they are heading into the playoffs.

Seen too many going into post season hot only to get bounced early, and seen teams claw and scratch their way in late, only to make a deep run. Playoffs are anything but predictable. Not sure this team has that "switch" to turn it on fully, but I do suspect they will bring far more intensity come playoff time, and with their experience, I would be quite shocked if this team brings that same spotty effort we saw against the Caps last season

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The Bruins as a team have scored 17 power play goals.

Alexander Ovechkin has scored 16 power play goals.

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The Bruins as a team have scored 17 power play goals.

Alexander Ovechkin has scored 16 power play goals.
It's pretty sad how inept they are, but I think that really speaks to the lack of actual offensive talent up front. The PP and how they run it is certainly a problem, but I've been saying for a long time how thin they were regarding an elite offensive player to build the pp around. They went into this season with all of none.

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It's pretty sad how inept they are, but I think that really speaks to the lack of actual offensive talent up front. The PP and how they run it is certainly a problem, but I've been saying for a long time how thin they were regarding an elite offensive player to build the pp around. They went into this season with all of none.
it is...not sure why people continually point to the "system". Only Seguin even remotely weighs in on the "God given elite talent" meter for the B's...

If you're a Pens fan, and you see you are bottom third then yeah, its the system...for us, its the talent level.

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it is...not sure why people continually point to the "system". Only Seguin even remotely weighs in on the "God given elite talent" meter for the B's...

If you're a Pens fan, and you see you are bottom third then yeah, its the system...for us, its the talent level.
Yup, and even with Seguin, he's still trying to get there. He should become that type of player in the future, but he's got work to do before he does. Sad part is that they added Jagr and anyone who watches the games could see the difference between him and everyone else they have on the roster. Even more sad when you consider Jagr is 41, and well into the back 9 of his career...

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it is...not sure why people continually point to the "system". Only Seguin even remotely weighs in on the "God given elite talent" meter for the B's...
This, and as great as Bergeron is, the offense would be totally different with Savard still on this team.

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It's pretty sad how inept they are, but I think that really speaks to the lack of actual offensive talent up front. The PP and how they run it is certainly a problem, but I've been saying for a long time how thin they were regarding an elite offensive player to build the pp around. They went into this season with all of none.
I'm coming around to the fact this might be the case, but the problem is two points:

1. There are several NHL teams with less high-end talent and better power plays. Several. And there have been each year since our PP has been this terrible.

2. A unit of Krejci-Seguin-Jagr-Hamilton and whoever is very talented. Mix in Soderberg, Bergeron and Marchand and you've got a top 10 crew in terms of talent. Obviously Seguin, Jagr and Hamilton are relative newcomers, but as of this morning, they have the talent. These guys should be producing at a higher clip. Jagr alone is one the best PP players in the entire league.

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