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04-25-2013, 10:59 AM
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Really? Briere was a defensively valuable player during his prime? Or are you just speaking in terms of offense?
Just offensive production.

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If they do intend to buy-out Briere, they aren't going to scratch him before the last home game. They should, but they won't.

Against OTT? That's more plausible.

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Schenn doesn't have the overall skill that Bobby Ryan has. That's not a knock on Schenn, but Ryan has some of the softer hands in the league. They play two different games as well. Schenn is at his best when he is physical while Ryan is at his best when he is in the open ice and has the puck on his stick.

Schenn as skill, we have all seen it, but not the skill level Ryan has.
I think Shane Doan is the perfect comparison for B. Schenn. He needs to bulk up a bit but I see him as a stout physical power forward like Doan with good production in 20+ goals, 50+ points range. Move him to left wing and keep him there for more than a week.

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04-25-2013, 11:11 AM
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I think Shane Doan is the perfect comparison for B. Schenn. He needs to bulk up a bit but I see him as a stout physical power forward like Doan with good production in 20+ goals, 50+ points range. Move him to left wing and keep him there for more than a week.
Eh... He definitely has more offensive ability than Doan.

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04-25-2013, 11:22 AM
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I will say one thing, the discussion in here has been great. With that being said the Flyers love to make big splashes in the off season and will probably trade that pick for someone lol. I think we all know it's a real possibility, I can't wait till the playoffs are through so the rumor mill starts churning again.

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Schenn could have a huge year on the Giroux Voracek line. He should have a huge amount of space to work in.

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04-25-2013, 11:30 AM
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Eh... He definitely has more offensive ability than Doan.
Maybe so, but Doan has been incredibly productive thru his career. If he can match Doan's numbers, the Flyers will be lucky.

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04-25-2013, 11:35 AM
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I think Shane Doan is the perfect comparison for B. Schenn. He needs to bulk up a bit but I see him as a stout physical power forward like Doan with good production in 20+ goals, 50+ points range. Move him to left wing and keep him there for more than a week.
I'm going to go a bit old school here, but Schenn reminds me a bit of Steve Larmer from the Blackhawk days. I don't think Schenn has quite the shot that Larmer had, but everything from skating to hockey sense reminds me so much of Larmer.

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Maybe so, but Doan has been incredibly productive thru his career. If he can match Doan's numbers, the Flyers will be lucky.
I think it's fair to say that he can. So, it seems to me that they would be unlucky if that were all he amounted to.

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Nikita Zadorov is #7 OVERALL in ISS April rankings and #22 in North America in CSS April rankings. Anyone have a guess why they are so different?
Central Scouting is a department within the NHL, therefore it's head up by scouts that have worked exclusively with NHL clubs. ISS is an independent organization that is not head up by the NHL. Funny thing is that many within CSB (Central Scouting Bureau), often refer to ISS and their reports on players.

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Would anyone do this or something a long the lines of this.

Trade next year's first, Couturier, and this year's second for #1 overall.

Trade Read and next year's second for CBJ's highest pick.

Draft Jones #1, Risto with the Flyers pick, Mantha with CBJ's pick.

Just curious. Not saying I would do this (or that the other teams would). Just don't have much to do at work right now and throwing it out there. Haha.

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Next year Risto makes the jump and replaces Mez.
Next year's draft is in Philadelphia. I don't see the 1st being moved for anything less than a landslide win of a trade.

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The Flyers will go forward. WATCH! LMAO, it's so hard to figure what they'll do. If Monahan drops or Nichushkin is on the board. Zadarov, Ristolainen all make sense but probably don't have the upside Holmgren will claim.

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The reality is the Flyers need prospects at every position to stock the farm.

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Next year's draft is in Philadelphia. I don't see the 1st being moved for anything less than a landslide win of a trade.
I really think people are putting too much emphasis on that. If they can make a trade that will improve the team, I don't see why the draft being in Philadelphia that year would stop them.

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I really think people are putting too much emphasis on that. If they can make a trade that will improve the team, I don't see why the draft being in Philadelphia that year would stop them.
Elliotte Friedman reported that the 2014 1st rounder was the big hold up in a deal for Clowe at the dealline. The Flyers were unwillingly to move it because of the draft being here. Take that for what it's worth though.

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Elliotte Friedman reported that the 2014 1st rounder was the big hold up in a deal for Clowe at the dealline. The Flyers were unwillingly to move it because of the draft being here. Take that for what it's worth though.
Really? If that is the case I think it is a terrible management decision. I mean, I wouldn't trade the pick just to trade it, but I wouldn't turn down a deal that improves the team so that they can make a pick in the first round in Philly.

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I really think people are putting too much emphasis on that. If they can make a trade that will improve the team, I don't see why the draft being in Philadelphia that year would stop them.
They have to worry about filling up the WFC. I would imagine teams think long and hard about trading their first when they are hosting the draft.

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Elliotte Friedman reported that the 2014 1st rounder was the big hold up in a deal for Clowe at the dealline. The Flyers were unwillingly to move it because of the draft being here. Take that for what it's worth though.
Thank god for that.

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Really? If that is the case I think it is a terrible management decision. I mean, I wouldn't trade the pick just to trade it, but I wouldn't turn down a deal that improves the team so that they can make a pick in the first round in Philly.
I don't think that's the case. I just think they value it a little more than they normally would. If its a no-brainer type of player they'll move it but I don't think Clowe fits that bill.

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They have to worry about filling up the WFC. I would imagine teams think long and hard about trading their first when they are hosting the draft.
Eh, I think the draft will be attended equally regardless of if the Flyers have a first rounder or not. If you are buying a ticket for the draft, you are most likely not a casual fan. If you are not a casual fan, you are going to be interested in seeing the draft regardless of the Flyers drafting in the first round. I could be wrong, but I know I plan on going regardless, and I imagine those planning on going only to see the Flyers pick are greatly outnumbered by those going just to watch the draft.

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I don't think that's the case. I just think they value it a little more than they normally would. If its a no-brainer type of player they'll move it but I don't think Clowe fits that bill.
Yeah I guess that makes sense. I mean I would be surprised if they were holding on to it just to call a name out in Philadelphia. If Clowe wasn't their guy and they didn't want to part with it for HIM, ok. If they simply won't part with it, I would be surprised.

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Eh, I think the draft will be attended equally regardless of if the Flyers have a first rounder or not. If you are buying a ticket for the draft, you are most likely not a casual fan. If you are not a casual fan, you are going to be interested in seeing the draft regardless of the Flyers drafting in the first round. I could be wrong, but I know I plan on going regardless, and I imagine those planning on going only to see the Flyers pick are greatly outnumbered by those going just to watch the draft.
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Not really. Most people don't care about the draft beyond who their team is picking.

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Elliotte Friedman reported that the 2014 1st rounder was the big hold up in a deal for Clowe at the dealline. The Flyers were unwillingly to move it because of the draft being here. Take that for what it's worth though.
Or Clowe is just not worth a 1st.

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I plan on going to the draft regardless of if we have a 1st. Granted, I'll be much more excited if we do, but I'll be there if we don't as well.

I don't know about other fans. I agree though that casual fans wouldn't be going to the draft anyway and im sure a lot of serious fans will want to see it regardless, but I have a lot of friends who are serious fans who have said they would have no interest in going if we don't have a 1st.

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Or Clowe is just not worth a 1st.
That's debatable. I think he's worth more than Briere and people around here were swearing we could get a 1st rounder for him. But like I said that's what he reported so TIFWIW.


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That's debatable. I think he's worth more than Briere and people around here were swearing we could get a 1st rounder for him. But like I said that's what he reported so TIFWIW.
No reason to give away our first for Clowe when we were hardly even in playoff contention anyway. Not as if Clowe would have put us over the edge

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