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04-25-2013, 11:20 AM
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Yeah, he's just a brutal player to me. I don't see the upside in him at all. He was consistently torched at Texas.
Who's your pick for the Giants at #19 ?

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04-25-2013, 11:31 AM
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A MLB is always needed but Giants won't draft Te'o

I like Fluker. NYG should also invite Lemon to camp, though he may go to Buffalo to stay with Nassib and Marone.

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04-25-2013, 11:45 AM
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I'd probably be happiest with Fluker. Trufant would be okay. But, I expect JR to take the most athletic player on the board.

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I was listening to the radio this morning and they were mentioning a super athletic DE who is a bit raw. Anyone know who that was? Sounded like a Giants pick.

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I was listening to the radio this morning and they were mentioning a super athletic DE who is a bit raw. Anyone know who that was? Sounded like a Giants pick.
I think you're talking about the kid from BYU who most drafts have going in the bottom 5 of the top 10.

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04-25-2013, 12:43 PM
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Last two mocks on NFL.com have the Giants selecting Pugh. I would not be happy with that. Average player with average upside. Doesn't really sound like a Reese pick anyways.

The Jets are in such dismay that any pick will help. Hopefully they do the intelligent thing and get more draft picks.

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Who's your pick for the Giants at #19 ?
I don't care as long as it's not Vaccaro or Okafor. Oh, also not that ****** Syracuse T/G Pugh that Mayock mocked to us. Anyone but those three.

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The chances of the Giants drafting a linebacker in the first round even if we had zero linebackers in the roster are just zilch. It is not in their philosophy. They value DE, CB, OL, WR a lot more than anything else on the field. Not to mention QB. Expect a pass rusher or guard in the first round. I doubt Warmack falls to us with the Cowboys just ahead of us needing a guard. I also guarantee the chances of Teo getting drafted by the Giants in the first round are -100000000000000000 considering he is not their type of athlete and does not seem to have the mind for a place like NY. The Giants do not draft players they think are not mentally strong or physically ridiculously athletic under Reese in the first, 2nd and third rounds. If Te'o somehow falls to the 4th or so then I would take him but he is a gamble. I also do not think the Giants draft Ogletree in the first when there are better players on the board then him where we will pick. The Guard from UNC is also a monster player. I would love if Sheldon Richardson falls, but I doubt he will.

As for the Jets... Oh boy... see it won't matter as long as they have the dumb owner they have who has Rex Ryan sitting there like a lameduck coach. That can't be good for any of the young players who will come in knowing Rex is gone the following year. Plus he can coach defense but he's a terrible head coach. The Jets need BPA in every round and trade back as much as possible.

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I'd probably be happiest with Fluker. Trufant would be okay. But, I expect JR to take the most athletic player on the board.
There is a whole mix of players I'd like. Ogletree, Warmack, Cooper, Ansah (some having him dropping to us), Richardson, Werner, Carridine, Trufant, Arthur Brown etc.

****, Walter Football has Dee Milliner falling to us. I'd dance all the way to the bank with that.

I don't really want Fluker (I'd rather go with an elite guard like Cooper or Warmack), but I wouldn't really be mad with him. T'eo is the same way to me.

Just please avoid Vaccaro, Pugh and Okafor in the first round. That's all I ask.

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There is a whole mix of players I'd like. Ogletree, Warmack, Cooper, Ansah (some having him dropping to us), Richardson, Werner, Carridine, Trufant, Arthur Brown etc.

****, Walter Football has Dee Milliner falling to us. I'd dance all the way to the bank with that.

I don't really want Fluker (I'd rather go with an elite guard like Cooper or Warmack), but I wouldn't really be mad with him. T'eo is the same way to me.

Just please avoid Vaccaro, Pugh and Okafor in the first round. That's all I ask.
I agree, though I don't know much about Vaccaro.

Elite Guard, sure. But don't reach for an average one in Pugh "just because". You can get the same value in a later round.

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I agree, though I don't know much about Vaccaro.

Elite Guard, sure. But don't reach for an average one in Pugh "just because". You can get the same value in a later round.
Vaccaro just screams average player to me. I don't see the reason to pick a safety in the frist round for us, anyway.

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04-25-2013, 01:18 PM
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Vaccaro just screams average player to me. I don't see the reason to pick a safety in the frist round for us, anyway.
True, but Ross was an average player for a first round pick, and helped us win two Super Bowls. A lot of it has to do with picking based on whether they'll contribute at that position.

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I don't know who I want the Saints to draft at 15. A lot of mocks have them taking Mingo or Jones but I don't know how I feel about that. Part of me doesn't want them just because the "experts" are predicting them. Wouldn't mind Star on the DL or Milliner/Howard if they fall. Although, it's the Saints so they may take a WR just because....

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As a Browns fan, I am very much rooting for a trade down.

I like Geno - think he's criminally underrated and his star is tarnished primarily because there were a couple of games where his O-line disintegrated and he got happy feet. That's a correctable issue - and one that shouldn't plague him behind the Browns' line in any event. But, I want them to get him after a trade down. Need value, need more picks.

Hoping the Miami/KC trade falls through and we get their 1st, 2nd and Bess for our 1st and maybe a midrounder going back and then they get Geno at #12.

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04-25-2013, 03:52 PM
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Also one thing i'll be paying attention to is if Miguel Mayonet is drafted. Me and suitemate consistently said this year the guy was really talented and could end up on an NFL team, i'd love to see someone from Stony Brook get drafted in the 6th or 7th.

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Also one thing i'll be paying attention to is if Miguel Mayonet is drafted. Me and suitemate consistently said this year the guy was really talented and could end up on an NFL team, i'd love to see someone from Stony Brook get drafted in the 6th or 7th.
I saw him play live last year, he tore the place down. My cousin actually played against him in pee wee. Would definitely be cool to see him go pro.

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There is a whole mix of players I'd like. Ogletree, Warmack, Cooper, Ansah (some having him dropping to us), Richardson, Werner, Carridine, Trufant, Arthur Brown etc.

****, Walter Football has Dee Milliner falling to us. I'd dance all the way to the bank with that.

I don't really want Fluker (I'd rather go with an elite guard like Cooper or Warmack), but I wouldn't really be mad with him. T'eo is the same way to me.

Just please avoid Vaccaro, Pugh and Okafor in the first round. That's all I ask.
no way ansah or Miller fall to 19

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no way ansah or Miller fall to 19
A number of predictions have it happening.

Am I saying it will? No. But now some people feel Werner is a 2nd day pick. This draft is wide open.

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True, but Ross was an average player for a first round pick, and helped us win two Super Bowls. A lot of it has to do with picking based on whether they'll contribute at that position.
Aaron Ross? He didn't really help us win anything. He was just there. You don't take a guy like that in the first round. Ross just never panned out. He was supposed to be quite a bit better than he ended up being.

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Wouldn't mind if the giants draft a defensive end.

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Ross was AWESOME as a rookie. I even remember he picksixed the Jets in a game that eliminated them from contention. And then he just disappeared. But he played well for both superbowl runs. Otherwise he was pretty mediocre.

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I want linemen, I really think with a constantly hurt Baas and an aging Snee and a pretty much finished Diehl this line needs a huge shot in the arm. I wouldn't mind a massive guard or a DJ Fluker like monstrous right tackle. Back to back. But who knows. I don't think the Giants know who they are drafting at this moment.

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Browns a QB I am not sold on Wheedon, plus he is too old for a prospect at QB.

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Couldn't they have gotten a Giant that actually roots for the Giants? Screw Simms.

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Ross was AWESOME as a rookie. I even remember he picksixed the Jets in a game that eliminated them from contention. And then he just disappeared. But he played well for both superbowl runs. Otherwise he was pretty mediocre.
Wasn't awesome as a rookie. I'd say he was solid. And then fell off.

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I like Fisher over Joeckel. Interesting. Better player, too, IMO.

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