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04-25-2013, 10:30 PM
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Going on this year, The Trade is beginning to look not quite so one-sided as it seemed.

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04-25-2013, 10:30 PM
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Great goal scorer, solid play maker. First line offensive forward.


That's as far as I'll go

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04-25-2013, 10:32 PM
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Yes has lost polls to Carter and Semin just these past couple of weeks.

He's a top 5 offensive player in the league. Period. He's improved defensively but obviously will never be great in that aspect.

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04-25-2013, 10:34 PM
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He is one of those guys that always ranks higher on the scoring charts than on the actual impact and ranking as a player or forward charts but there is no shame in that either.

There is a reason he was picked last in that all star game.
Must be killing you how successful Phil has become. Now all you can resort to is nonsense like this .

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04-25-2013, 10:35 PM
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He's good but he'll be even better in Minnesota taking Heatley's contract.

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04-25-2013, 10:41 PM
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I don't think anyone doubt Kessel's a good hockey player.

Would still take Seguin and Hamilton over him any day.

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04-25-2013, 10:41 PM
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He's an elite talent no doubt about it. Leafs better get him locked up.

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04-25-2013, 10:43 PM
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Elite sniper, playmaker, skater, and the best release in the NHL.

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04-25-2013, 10:43 PM
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His playmaking has gone from good to great. He's a bit predictable though with his passing I feel, like nearly 20 of his assists have come from being down the boards on his off wing, moving in like he's going to shoot and then passing across ice.

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Big Kessel hater for the longest time.

Happy to see that he's changed up his game over the past two years. He's become a very good player now.

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04-25-2013, 10:45 PM
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Yes has lost polls to Carter and Semin just these past couple of weeks.

He's a top 5 offensive player in the league. Period. He's improved defensively but obviously will never be great in that aspect.
He destroyed Carter in that poll.

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04-25-2013, 10:46 PM
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Top 5 offensive winger in the league. One dimensional, but when you're as good at scoring as Kessel you don't need to be anything else.
He hasn't really been one dimensional this year, but since this comment was meant as a compliment, whatever.

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Must be killing you how successful Phil has become. Now all you can resort to is nonsense like this .
Yeah, I'm sure Kessel really loses sleep because he doesn't impact games.

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04-25-2013, 10:47 PM
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Kessel is a franchise player plain and simple, back to back top 10 scoring if he played for a well liked fan base then he'd be a HF forums love child

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04-25-2013, 10:51 PM
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That season with Savard is still his best goal production-wise.

and he is much, much better now than he was then...
Last year's 37 was his career high, not his season with the Bruins.

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04-25-2013, 10:53 PM
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Great goal scorer, solid play maker. First line offensive forward.


That's as far as I'll go
He's as good a playmaker as he is a sniper. He may even be better at creating. This is what separates him from some other top line wingers. What's great is that he's gradually become that playmaker. Before, if he wasn't scoring he was redundant, but now he's always racking up on the score sheet. He's also become a more responsible player which is enough for me to call him an elite talent.

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Kessel is a franchise player plain and simple, back to back top 10 scoring if he played for a well liked fan base then he'd be a HF forums love child
So true. If he's on Dallas, Columbus, Phoenix or Tampa Bay, everyone would love him, but oh no he's on the Leafs so Kessel is one dimensional, only skates down the wing and shoots

Please...

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04-25-2013, 10:59 PM
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Get him a real center and see what he does....

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Last year's 37 was his career high, not his season with the Bruins.
He probably meant including playoffs, Kessel scored 42 in 81 games that year with 36 in 70 game in the regular season.

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04-25-2013, 11:00 PM
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Just watching the Leafs game now and realized Kessel is now 6th in scoring (51 pts, 2 goals tonight) and was also top 10 last season. Last season, I just thought it was the result of one of the best dynamic duos in Kessel/Lupul, but this season Kessel has been doing it all himself without Lupul (who is also repeating on his own).

What kind of player is he now? In terms of league ranking and player type. His goal scoring has been pretty off for his standard this season, is he actually a playmaking winger now?
I said this in another thread (I think). Kessel can play any style you want. He has straight ahead speed, a good stick, an absolute bomb of a shot and good instincts offensively. His speed and when he uses it opens up the ice for his teammates, and he can absolutely thread a pass. He also uses his speed to backcheck effectively and I think its bolstered his offensive versatility because he's taking the puck out of the zone and creating odd man rushes.

Wasn't too sure of him for a few years, but he's becoming a favorite player of mine in the way that he's grown his game, kept his consistency in scoring and his individual success is having a very positive effect on his team. He may not be the most physical guy, but like Pat Kane, if you have a good stick, its not a negative for your game that it can be for other players.

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04-25-2013, 11:03 PM
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He destroyed Carter in that poll.
Yeah never mind. I don't know why I thought that.

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04-25-2013, 11:07 PM
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Give him a real first line C and he'll hit 90+ points every season, easy.

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04-25-2013, 11:11 PM
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Biggest myth is that he can't generate his own offense.

Fact is that ever since he came to Toronto, I can't recall of any line-mate who is better than him offensively. Heck, he has produced points even with Crabb and Boyce as his linemates.

A consistent points scorer, a very good playmaker and elite shot.

You can count him to show up 76 games a season, or 44 games this season.

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04-25-2013, 11:12 PM
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Biggest myth is that he can't generate his own offense.

Fact is that ever since he came to Toronto, I can't recall of any line-mate who is better than him offensively. Heck, he has produced points even with Crabb and Boyce as his linemates.

A consistent points scorer, a very good playmaker and elite shot.

You can count him to show up 76 games a season, or 44 games this season.
Lupul was the only player I've seen yet who had Kessel playing better... But then again Lupul's career was revived going on a line with Kessel... As the years go on, I'm feeling a lot better about the trade... Knowing that above the pieces we did give up, we did end up with an elite talent in the end...


I had to completely laugh at the comment saying he generates no offense on his own.. Just take a look at this linemates before the Lupul trade and the numbers he was still putting up and that says everything

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