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04-25-2013, 10:58 PM
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Something related to this. The missing Brown student was found dead in a Providence RI river. He was accused of being one of the Marathon Bombers. RIP Sunil Tripathi

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Well, that's not likely now. B/c now he can use information he may otherwise have given up, had they been permitted more time to interrogate him, thus pleading down from the death penalty.
Entirely possible, and if I were a wagering person I'd say most likely. Philosophically I'm not sure how I feel about this, but that discussion is best left for another forum far, far from here.

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Pretty sure they have him cold w/o any additional information from himself. Nor would any information they obtained be admissible previous to him being mirandized (just assuming here). Point was; determine immediate danger - additional bombs or accomplices at large, get intel on anyone else involved directly or indirectly, find out who/what his brother was associating with, how they were radicalized, other contacts, training, etc etc.

e.g. This Misha character, if real, he can get outta town now before anyone can ID him. They have no way of corroborating, or fact checking, anything he's said thus far.
I don't doubt that there's enough physical evidence for a conviction on the federal charges and I think they've got him dead to rights. As for the info obtained prior to being Mirandized possibly regarding other accomplices or plots, if it's not admissible against S2, I'd worry about it being legally viable to use in obtaining search warrants and going forward against any further plots. Now, my last con law classes were in undergrad so I'm not at all fresh on search and seizure so I'd have to leave that to the experts. I know the threshold for probable cause is lower than it is when determining information admissible at a trial, but it comes with it's variances. I do know that the US District Court of Massachusetts has a reputation of following the "letter of the law" down to the last dotted "i."

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You're right, they had to do what was within the law once it was decided he wasn't going to be classified as an enemy combatant. I'm of the opinion they have to draft federal legislation that gives investigators what they need, and legally, whether it be domestic or foreign terrorism. Had this guy been in Pakistan or Afghanistan, like Jose Padilla, different story, as we're already at war. Had he been part of an active cell (i.e. London, Spain). We'd of been ****ed.
I made this point earlier in this thread....the "battlefield" has obviously taken on a new look and isn't a visible one like we're used to seeing in recent history. There needs to be pressure on this country's legislators and lawmakers to take a serious look at some of these scenarios that require us to fight a different kind of "war." Political apathy aside (and again, I'm not going to go into the politics of it because blergh) it would be helpful if the Federal Government could be a tad more proactive, as evidenced by some of the bureaucratic BS that's come to light, with the infosharing between agencies as an example. The laws that we have certainly have their place...but if there's absolutely a case to be made that they're antiquated when dealing with this new battlefield.

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I'm certainly not flaming you.
No, I know. That was in response to the assplod who apparently read what I wrote and assumed from those posts that I wanted the FBI to blow the case. I've nothing but the utmost respect for what you've provided us in this thread. The things I've learned from you have incredibly helpful and provided so much insight into a world that most of us have zero clue about. I tip my hat to you and the others who do the work you do.

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04-26-2013, 08:52 AM
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http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013...JNN/story.html

The story of the carjacking victim is crazier than any novel I have ever read.

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Asshat #2 has been moved to Fort Devens per NBC News:

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...to-prison?lite

Asshat #1 remains dead.

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The story of the carjacking victim is crazier than any novel I have ever read.
That was insane...brave man!

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Asshat #1 remains dead.
You made my morning--I spit my coffee everywhere.

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You're welcome. Had to put that in for the tin foil crowd

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Asshat #1 remains dead.
And Generallisimo Francisco Franco is still dead - too.


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Yeah I've been good about this too until today. Some ****ing idiot posted on my facebook "wow first the government fakes sandy hook and now they faked Boston? I hate our government"

Lost it.
Must be paying too much attention to the mother.

If anything it sounds like the older brother was on the government's radar just not pinging enough for them to pay attention.

I am very glad they moved the younger terrorist out of the hospital. While I don't begrudge him medical care I can totally see being uncomfortable with him in the same hospital as his victims-many of whom lost limbs and have a long recovery ahead.

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Have the police come up with a motive for killing the MIT officer ? Were they after something like guns etc? I heard the officer was responding to a loud noise. Did these two dirtbags set him up with a loud noise so that he would respond.

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Unreal balls on the dude that got carjacked

http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013...IKES#aComments
I think he was wise to play along but look for his opportunity. Took some real courage to get out of that car and run for it.

Thank God for cash only gas stations-I can't help but think without his taking that risk these guys would have blown something else up and likely killed the hostage at some point.

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Have the police come up with a motive for killing the MIT officer ? Were they after something like guns etc? I heard the officer was responding to a loud noise. Did these two dirtbags set him up with a loud noise so that he would respond.
They needed a gun.

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04-26-2013, 12:11 PM
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The story of the carjacking victim is crazier than any novel I have ever read.
Find the part a/b them asking if his car can be driven out of state very odd.

"Danny" did exactly what he was supposed to do, stay alive. Saw a chance to escape, and did. What balls.

Now you know why on the radio we heard - "Sounds like suspect vehicle is heading to NY".

Borat #2 moved to Federal prison hospital. I hope he gets enough action he eventually requests to wear the berka.

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I've nothing but the utmost respect for what you've provided us in this thread. The things I've learned from you have incredibly helpful and provided so much insight into a world that most of us have zero clue about. I tip my hat to you and the others who do the work you do.
Thanks, I appreciate that. Liked it better when this place was an escape. But please, tip your hat to those that genuinely deserve it. Sworn Law enforcement on all levels, especially first responders, who almost never have the benefit of the initiative. Our intelligence agencies, who have to be right every time, and work around a myriad of obstacles daily in search of that goal. Don't forget our military, they're the reason we're neck deep in the intelligence we do have that's kept this country safe, and it's come at an unbearable cost of lives and unimaginable sacrifice. I'm just a suit.

Nevertheless, this was a sucker punch in the gut. I genuinely envy those who don't take it personally.

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Russia launching offensive against extremist groups.

Happy hunting, Spetsnaz.

Edit - no link, overheard Wolf Blitzer say it on CNN, so take it as you will. Hope it's true.

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Borat #2 moved to Federal prison hospital. I hope he gets enough action he eventually requests to wear the berka.
tony, one day i'm gonna buy you a week's worth of drinks.

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Borat #2 moved to Federal prison hospital. I hope he gets enough action he eventually requests to wear the berka.
Damn, I wan't to link in the you tube from Office Space talking about White Collar Prison vs Federal Prison, but the link actually has the f-word in the URL so it saves with *'s instead of the letters.

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NIKE Pulls Boston Massacre T-Shirt Off Shelves

How the **ck did this even make it to stores in the first place ????









But of course a few were sold so now somebody is selling one on E-Bay:


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Happy hunting, Spetsnaz.

Edit - no link, overheard Wolf Blitzer say it on CNN, so take it as you will. Hope it's true.
Probably everyone who so much as looked at Wormfood while he was over there. I hope they have a taste for heavy isotopes.

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Screw the shirt, prior to the bombing that would have been a pretty clever Sox/Yankees rivalry tee.

But holy **** is that bid for real?

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Happy hunting, Spetsnaz.

Edit - no link, overheard Wolf Blitzer say it on CNN, so take it as you will. Hope it's true.
Russia says they arrested 140 extremists, but I don't know how out of the norm this is.

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Russia says they arrested 140 extremists, but I don't know how out of the norm this is.
Did Putin single handedly arrest all 140 of them?

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Did Putin single handedly arrest all 140 of them?
Single handed!? He didn't need to use his hands!

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the yankees/red sox bucky dent game in 1978 has been known as the "boston massacre" for years.

that idiot shaughnessy called the 2006 five game yankee sweep "the son of the massacre"

don't act like it's never been used before.

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How the **ck did this even make it to stores in the first place ????









But of course a few were sold so now somebody is selling one on E-Bay:

As far as I know it's a past Sox/Yankee thing... But $155K for a freaking used shirt?!?

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